The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!
Discussion
Twinfan said:
I think it's 40bhp - I think I read 460bhp in the RS mule and 420bhp for the regular GT4? The mule currently has the GT3 engine, whether the production version would get it, if it's made, or a tweaked version of the regular GT4 engine is another matter.
It would also be PDK only.
I think if they do go ahead they will go the whole 9 yards on it and it will be closer to 500hp. It would also be PDK only.
Gutted if they only go PDK. I guess i'll have to get a 718 GT4 just incase they don't offer a manual.
FocusRS3 said:
Yeah I won’t be holding my breath !
Maybe the new car will put pressure on the older model and I’ll buy one of those instead
Go for it, great cars. I really miss mine. I would have kept it if OPC had been upfront and told me i wouldn't be getting a GT3 allocation.Maybe the new car will put pressure on the older model and I’ll buy one of those instead
Edited by rkwm1 on Tuesday 21st August 17:43
Back on topic, more pics of 718 GT4 and Spyder out testing. Apparently will be unveiled in Paris in October.
https://www.motor1.com/photo/3180473/porsche-718-c...
I think the Spyder rear looks much nicer the the GT4.
https://www.motor1.com/photo/3180473/porsche-718-c...
I think the Spyder rear looks much nicer the the GT4.
Edited by rkwm1 on Wednesday 22 August 13:13
Boxster_racer said:
Thanks for the update !
What would you say are the points to consider when choosing between GT4 over the Spyder?
Your welcome.What would you say are the points to consider when choosing between GT4 over the Spyder?
If others are correct and the Spyder is going to be roofless GT4, then i guess for me it will come down to if i want open top motoring or the small amount of additional luggage space. I'll toss a coin when the time comes lol.
Taffy66 said:
Its wholy at the IR's discretion on whether any profits derived from flipping is deemed to be taxable income or unearned income..I suspect that if an individual who's flipped more than a couple of cars for profit then the IR would classify him as a trader resulting in the profits being classed as taxable income.
Knowing my local OPC's DP pretty well i'm very confident he wouldn't be complicit in any dubious acts of receiving any form of bribery..After all they earn circa £150k per annum plus benefits meaning they earn more than the majority of his customers..
In terms of the same guy receiving all the special cars i'm pretty sure its because he/she is the OPC's biggest customer in terms of buying other Porsches, therefore very awkward for the DP not to yield to his demands especially if this extremely 'well heeled' individual threatens to take his business elsewhere..
He might even have got over the DP's head directly to Porsche GB Hq or the owner of the franchise..This is probably quite common practice in many OPCs across the UK..
The secret is to be the biggest fish in the pond and to achieve that you sometimes have to find another smaller pond with smaller fish than yourself..Does anyone know of one by any chance..?
It seems somebody got called to the DP's office today and got a dressing-down. How things change in the space of 6 hours!Knowing my local OPC's DP pretty well i'm very confident he wouldn't be complicit in any dubious acts of receiving any form of bribery..After all they earn circa £150k per annum plus benefits meaning they earn more than the majority of his customers..
In terms of the same guy receiving all the special cars i'm pretty sure its because he/she is the OPC's biggest customer in terms of buying other Porsches, therefore very awkward for the DP not to yield to his demands especially if this extremely 'well heeled' individual threatens to take his business elsewhere..
He might even have got over the DP's head directly to Porsche GB Hq or the owner of the franchise..This is probably quite common practice in many OPCs across the UK..
The secret is to be the biggest fish in the pond and to achieve that you sometimes have to find another smaller pond with smaller fish than yourself..Does anyone know of one by any chance..?
Edited by Taffy66 on Wednesday 22 August 17:02
Edited by Taffy66 on Wednesday 22 August 17:03
I don't have the time to address this post properly at the moment, but i'll get back to it soon.
Taffy66 said:
Its wholy at the IR's discretion on whether any profits derived from flipping is deemed to be taxable income or unearned income..I suspect that if an individual who's flipped more than a couple of cars for profit then the IR would classify him as a trader resulting in the profits being classed as taxable income.
Knowing my local OPC's DP pretty well i'm very confident he wouldn't be complicit in any dubious acts of receiving any form of bribery..After all they earn circa £150k per annum plus benefits meaning they earn more than the majority of his customers..
In terms of the same guy receiving all the special cars i'm pretty sure its because he/she is the OPC's biggest customer in terms of buying other Porsches, therefore very awkward for the DP not to yield to his demands especially if this extremely 'well heeled' individual threatens to take his business elsewhere..
He might even have got over the DP's head directly to Porsche GB Hq or the owner of the franchise..This is probably quite common practice in many OPCs across the UK..
The secret is to be the biggest fish in the pond and to achieve that you sometimes have to find another smaller pond with smaller fish than yourself..Does anyone know of one by any chance..?
First of all i do remember you writing a while ago something along the lines, that if somebody at the OPC received a 3RS and flipped it you would be having serious words with the DP and taking you business elsewhere. What's changed? Knowing my local OPC's DP pretty well i'm very confident he wouldn't be complicit in any dubious acts of receiving any form of bribery..After all they earn circa £150k per annum plus benefits meaning they earn more than the majority of his customers..
In terms of the same guy receiving all the special cars i'm pretty sure its because he/she is the OPC's biggest customer in terms of buying other Porsches, therefore very awkward for the DP not to yield to his demands especially if this extremely 'well heeled' individual threatens to take his business elsewhere..
He might even have got over the DP's head directly to Porsche GB Hq or the owner of the franchise..This is probably quite common practice in many OPCs across the UK..
The secret is to be the biggest fish in the pond and to achieve that you sometimes have to find another smaller pond with smaller fish than yourself..Does anyone know of one by any chance..?
Edited by Taffy66 on Wednesday 22 August 17:02
Edited by Taffy66 on Wednesday 22 August 17:03
So what it seems your are describing to me at the Dick Lovett dealerships is a PONZI scheme. Customers are encouraged to keep purchasing cars in the hope that they will get the "golden ticket" allocation when this is never going to happen.
You have purchased several cars from them. I guess you have taken a hit on most of these cars in the hope of getting a allocation for a RS/limited edition car. Yet these cars going to one customer who is pals with Peter Lovett. This person then flips pretty much straight away for huge profits. While you keep buying, increasing the turnover for OPC and in turn increasing the amount the DP gets paid in bonuses, hoping to climb up that ladder to get that special car which will be worth a significant amount more than you paid(PONZI Scheme ring a bell?).
You are now left with £1000's of loss in depreciation on the cars you have purchased. A GT3 that you were not allowed to flip as it would mean that you are no longer considered for the 'special car' which you were not going to get in the first place and a now a GT3, which is dropping in price daily!
In the meantime Lovett's/ Porsche GB's pal has flipped all the cars and is now waiting for delivery of i guess GT4, Spyder and Speedster.
Let's say they made £250K on GT2RS, £100K on GT3RS, £50K and they get £75K for the Turbo S, thats £475K cash in hand and they've still got cars to come. Let's repeat that, £475K tax free in 12 months that this "well healed" individual has added to the coffers (hate to repeat myself, but does Ponzi/ Madoff ring a bell)!
They still also have a GT4, Spyder and Speedster to come.
Tell your DP i'm happy to drop £100k in depreciation per annum if i can get the same deal as above but i'm pretty sure i know where he tell me to go
With regards your DP's salary, one thing i have seen too many times in life is never to underestimate somebody's greed!
As for the small pond, i'm afraid there are sharks in pretty much all of them now. I will once again repeat myself and say that there are a small amount of OPC's that do deal fairly but they are becoming rarer than the 1967 911R !!
Ponzi Ponzi Ponzi
Edited by rkwm1 on Thursday 23 August 11:25
Edited by rkwm1 on Thursday 23 August 11:25
nudgerwilliams said:
Do you think the rear diffuser bit is final? Looks to me like it's off the current car, and adapted for new new exhaust position, without sorting the hole that's left in the middle.
I thought that it looks a bit unfinished, but its the one that thing has been consistent on all mules that i have seen.Thats sound like a turbo to me
Maybe they have to build the GT4 with a turbo so that they can build a GT4RS with a 4.0!
Looks like the 718 T is on the way .
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/cayman/10503...
Maybe they have to build the GT4 with a turbo so that they can build a GT4RS with a 4.0!
Looks like the 718 T is on the way .
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/cayman/10503...
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