12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

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av185

18,688 posts

129 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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julian718 said:
I would say £50K at tops. If you zoom in on the pics, the interior looks scuffed up. 50K on a good day. So many for sale at present and none of them are changing hands. I foresee the prices of GT4's plummeting and the 718GTS, for when the new 718GT4 and refreshed 718GTS come out.
Hilarious.

n12maser

589 posts

94 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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someone's in the market for a GT4 lol

GT4RS

4,480 posts

199 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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So what makes the perfect spec usable gt4 then?

Clubsport
Folding buckets
Extended leather
Sports chrono
Heated seats
Bose
Dual climate control


av185

18,688 posts

129 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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GT4RS said:
So what makes the perfect spec usable gt4 then?

Clubsport
Folding buckets
Extended leather
Sports chrono
Heated seats
Bose
Dual climate control
Depends if you mean buying used or speccing new.

Clubsport was an expensive option new at c £3500 for half cage. Should really have been free as per the GT3. 981 cages are creaky and alot noisier than GT3s so I would not spec for these reasons.

Folding buckets with optional heaters now look dated and are a useless feature on the GT4 but essentially are a good seat depending on your build and height although there is no height adjustment unlike the newer and better looking more vertical Spyder buckets.

Extended leather is a no brainer must.

Sport chrono another relatively expensive option for what you get but good for resale as is climate although the 'manuel' aircon works well.

Bose is waste of time and money in a GT4.

PCM essential for resale.

Interior carbon pack always sells well and looks good imo.

Edited by av185 on Tuesday 11th June 22:47


Edited by av185 on Tuesday 11th June 22:49

av185

18,688 posts

129 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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By coincidence there is a Fawlty Towers thread running.......



GT4RS

4,480 posts

199 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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Only reason I asked is I’m interested in hearing other people’s opinions.

I listed what I would specified

av185

18,688 posts

129 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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GT4RS said:
Only reason I asked is I’m interested in hearing other people’s opinions.

I listed what I would specified
Are you on for the 718 Gt4?

GT4RS

4,480 posts

199 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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av185 said:
GT4RS said:
Only reason I asked is I’m interested in hearing other people’s opinions.

I listed what I would specified
Are you on for the 718 Gt4?
Don’t be daft!

av185

18,688 posts

129 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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GT4RS said:
av185 said:
GT4RS said:
Only reason I asked is I’m interested in hearing other people’s opinions.

I listed what I would specified
Are you on for the 718 Gt4?
Don’t be daft!
Thought you were desperate for a 718 GT4 PDK?

GT4RS

4,480 posts

199 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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No that would mean I would need to consider selling the 991.2 4s

jcosh

1,172 posts

234 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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av185 said:
jcosh said:
av185 said:
Yep wrong seats.

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LOL, how can a certain type of seat be wrong? Wrong for one person is not necessarily wrong for somebody else.
Someone asked why the car wasn't selling and quite clearly the seats are the main reason as MOST GT4 buyers demand buckets.
I think that’s largely a forum myth. There are plenty of buyers who prefer non buckets. My local OPC has had two bucket seat GT4’s in stock for a long time and both are otherwise lovely specs. During this time they have sold at leat one, possibly two GT4’s with 18way seats that didn’t even make it to there stock list.

GT4RS

4,480 posts

199 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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jcosh said:
av185 said:
jcosh said:
av185 said:
Yep wrong seats.

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LOL, how can a certain type of seat be wrong? Wrong for one person is not necessarily wrong for somebody else.
Someone asked why the car wasn't selling and quite clearly the seats are the main reason as MOST GT4 buyers demand buckets.
I think that’s largely a forum myth. There are plenty of buyers who prefer non buckets. My local OPC has had two bucket seat GT4’s in stock for a long time and both are otherwise lovely specs. During this time they have sold at leat one, possibly two GT4’s with 18way seats that didn’t even make it to there stock list.
One or two posters will make out certain spec cars are not desirable as they may own a different spec and talk there’s up.


Porsche911R

21,146 posts

267 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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GT4RS said:
One or two posters will make out certain spec cars are not desirable as they may own a different spec and talk there’s up.
it pretty clear to see 90% 2nd hand sales demand buckets in GT car been the case for 15 years.

look at 996 and 997 GT cars atm all the bucket seated cars have just about sold, we have 16 or so comforts leftover.

the 6 cayman R for sale all don't have the big 3 wants and some been for sale ages

the Sypder are the same there are 4 on the OPC net work 2 comforts and 2 with 2 tone, good luck with them.

we have people on the forum posting wanted adds about R and Spyder atm in the right specs.

Spec is key to all thess sorts of cars, people will forgo a few smaller items but if some of the big ones are missing cars stick.

Bit like GTS cars without the GTS pack, for me it's a must have on a GTS when I looked, mine was the only car with the GTS pack and 3 people were in line to buy it, the cars still for sale are all GTS without GTS pack !

I think what we have seen is newcomers to GT cars buying comforts and being able to give them back to dealers and of course there is 10% people who will buy comforts, we have a rich lot of retired people in the UK who cannot get into buckets ;-)

Is what it is, and has always been the same.

some new people on cars with overs will buy comforts, 2nd hand sales demand buckets.





Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 12th June 09:05

Twinfan

10,125 posts

106 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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My OPC has sold 3 or 4 bucket seated GT4s in the last 2-3 months. The one comfort seat car they have has been sat there the whole time and is still there.

For a GT car buckets are essential IMHO. Everything else is your own spec preference although manual aircon would also be a deal breaker for me. I also couldn't care less about PCM, sound system upgrades or a Sports Chrono clock!

jcosh

1,172 posts

234 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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GT4RS said:
jcosh said:
av185 said:
jcosh said:
av185 said:
Yep wrong seats.

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LOL, how can a certain type of seat be wrong? Wrong for one person is not necessarily wrong for somebody else.
Someone asked why the car wasn't selling and quite clearly the seats are the main reason as MOST GT4 buyers demand buckets.
I think that’s largely a forum myth. There are plenty of buyers who prefer non buckets. My local OPC has had two bucket seat GT4’s in stock for a long time and both are otherwise lovely specs. During this time they have sold at leat one, possibly two GT4’s with 18way seats that didn’t even make it to there stock list.
One or two posters will make out certain spec cars are not desirable as they may own a different spec and talk there’s up.
There are few of those on here, what the forum says and what the the real would demands are not always the same.

jcosh

1,172 posts

234 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Porsche911R said:
GT4RS said:
One or two posters will make out certain spec cars are not desirable as they may own a different spec and talk there’s up.
it pretty clear to see 90% 2nd hand sales demand buckets in GT car been the case for 15 years.

look at 996 and 997 GT cars atm all the bucket seated cars have just about sold, we have 16 or so comforts leftover.

the 6 cayman R for sale all don't have the big 3 wants and some been for sale ages

the Sypder are the same there are 4 on the OPC net work 2 comforts and 2 with 2 tone, good luck with them.

we have people on the forum posting wanted adds about R and Spyder atm in the right specs.

Spec is key to all thess sorts of cars, people will forgo a few smaller items but if some of the big ones are missing cars stick.

Bit like GTS cars without the GTS pack, for me it's a must have on a GTS when I looked, mine was the only car with the GTS pack and 3 people were in line to buy it, the cars still for sale are all GTS without GTS pack !

I think what we have seen is newcomers to GT cars buying comforts and being able to give them back to dealers and of course there is 10% people who will buy comforts, we have a rich lot of retired people in the UK who cannot get into buckets ;-)

Is what it is, and has always been the same.

some new people on cars with overs will buy comforts, 2nd hand sales demand buckets.





Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 12th June 09:05
The cars you quote are all older harder core models where buckets are more in demand as those cars are more suited to track.

The newer breed of GT cars, 991, GT4 (I’m sure 992 will be the same) are more more cable as a road car and they are more expensive than previous models which attracts a different type of buyer.

For sure buckets are key for many, but don't think GT cars with the more versatile 18way seats don’t sell, then do and many of those buyers wouldn’t buy their GT product any other way.

av185

18,688 posts

129 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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jcosh said:
For sure buckets are key for many, but don't think GT cars with the more versatile 18way seats don’t sell, then do and many of those buyers wouldn’t buy their GT product any other way.
Not saying they don't sell.

Merely that they are a much harder sell and at a substantially lower price. Simply because MOST buyers of GT cars understandably demand buckets and that's what the market is.

Ask any OPC buyer.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

267 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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anonymous said:
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I priced my 981 Spyder as the cheapest, there are also 981 at £65k now.

some times even these low priced cars do not sell due to spec and NEED to be EVEN LOWER.

but yes a car will always sell at the right price, it seems people want more than their cars are worth sans buckets.

what the real world difference is who knows, but there are a lot of comfort cars for sale at the lower end of the price scale stuck !

I think even £10k less is not cheap enough to sell them. there is a rut of 996,997.1 and.2 comforts for sale.

what would a 997.2 comfort GT3 need to be to act sell ? £85k or even less.


Porsche911R

21,146 posts

267 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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anonymous said:
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the cars are NOT for sale £15k under, that's the rub hence all for sale !

WORRALL.

51 posts

92 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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I have watched the market nearly daily since last October with notifications set up for when a car is put up for sale and noting when its sold. These cars are certainly selling but have to be the right spec/price or it will sit around for 4/5 months. The two i noticed which havent sold for months in particular were red comfort spec cars. I personally love the red on a GT4 but for resale they dont seem to do too well. I was waiting for a clubsport car to come up with the right extras at the right price and bought one within two days of it being advertised the other week. After taking delivery I can confirm these cars are amazing and i now know why everybody raves about them so much. They're worth every single penny and I cant wait to get it on track to see its true potential!
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