Discussion
Mogsmex said:
This happened on the way to work this morning……
Is that it ?
Immediate disaster looming ?
Scrap value only ?
7 years and counting best car I have ever owned !
Had a hoon round Snowdonia last week, pic outside the hotel
LOVE IT
You had a hoon..???, its reading 30mpg it should be in the low 20's...come on you can do better that that.Is that it ?
Immediate disaster looming ?
Scrap value only ?
7 years and counting best car I have ever owned !
Had a hoon round Snowdonia last week, pic outside the hotel
LOVE IT
I've had a few weeks off work and took a break from house renovations to have a couple of day road trip with a mate. 600 miles in 2 days - last year I only managed 750 miles all year!
What a car. I was well reminded of why I've still got it after 9 and a half years!
And the new Conti Sport Contacts... What a tyre! I'd toyed with putting the car on Cup 2s but didn't want to deal with the compromise on a car which will be used on road trips when the weather may be wet but I am going to say it - I actually prefer the feel of the car on the Contis. I'm also not convinced that on the road they have any less grip. What they have in buckets is feel. The 987 steering is known to be sweet - see intercooler video posted on here - and the Contis amplify it. The car has never felt so good the whole time I've owned it. I'm someone who needs confidence in the front end of a car to really enjoy it and the Contis excel at this. I'd seen some very positive reviews - they are justified. For a tyre to be so good in the dry and then be brilliant in the wet too is unbelievable.
A bit of a random update.
I have been hillclimbing my Cayman R that I find utterly addictive. Last year was my first three meetings, and at Harewood my times were fairly stable in the low 67s with a best of 67.17s.
Because of the weather, there were no events or practice events between September and May, so I was straight into my first event proper with no time to improve as a driver. What I did do was upgrade to Ohlins Road and Track. I also put on a set of 18ins and Yokohama 052s.
My time improved massively to 65.02s, which is a big leap in hill climbing terms (and beat the new 718 GT4 PDK in the group as well).
Most hillclimbers say that the 052s are worth between 0.5 and 1.0 second on a run, so the Ohlins helped with the rest.
Yes, there is more mechanical grip, but the real difference I find with the Ohlins is that I feel so much more confident in the cars handling and balance. The combination of Ohlins and 052s is fantastic - the steering is so precise which is handy on a 12ft wide track.
Worthy investments, for me, yes.
I now have the benefit of a practice day with some new lines so hopefully even more to come at the next event. Fingers crossed for dry weather.
I have been hillclimbing my Cayman R that I find utterly addictive. Last year was my first three meetings, and at Harewood my times were fairly stable in the low 67s with a best of 67.17s.
Because of the weather, there were no events or practice events between September and May, so I was straight into my first event proper with no time to improve as a driver. What I did do was upgrade to Ohlins Road and Track. I also put on a set of 18ins and Yokohama 052s.
My time improved massively to 65.02s, which is a big leap in hill climbing terms (and beat the new 718 GT4 PDK in the group as well).
Most hillclimbers say that the 052s are worth between 0.5 and 1.0 second on a run, so the Ohlins helped with the rest.
Yes, there is more mechanical grip, but the real difference I find with the Ohlins is that I feel so much more confident in the cars handling and balance. The combination of Ohlins and 052s is fantastic - the steering is so precise which is handy on a 12ft wide track.
Worthy investments, for me, yes.
I now have the benefit of a practice day with some new lines so hopefully even more to come at the next event. Fingers crossed for dry weather.
PaulD86 said:
I've had a few weeks off work and took a break from house renovations to have a couple of day road trip with a mate. 600 miles in 2 days - last year I only managed 750 miles all year!
What a car. I was well reminded of why I've still got it after 9 and a half years!
And the new Conti Sport Contacts... What a tyre! I'd toyed with putting the car on Cup 2s but didn't want to deal with the compromise on a car which will be used on road trips when the weather may be wet but I am going to say it - I actually prefer the feel of the car on the Contis. I'm also not convinced that on the road they have any less grip. What they have in buckets is feel. The 987 steering is known to be sweet - see intercooler video posted on here - and the Contis amplify it. The car has never felt so good the whole time I've owned it. I'm someone who needs confidence in the front end of a car to really enjoy it and the Contis excel at this. I'd seen some very positive reviews - they are justified. For a tyre to be so good in the dry and then be brilliant in the wet too is unbelievable.
It was certainly well used as the colour of this disc will attest...
The PSS5 will be interesting to experience - even as the tyre to beat, reviews of the PS4S often noted they weren't the last word in feedback and that was my experience of them. This is where the Contis excel for me and I'd trade some grip for the feedback if the new PSS5 doesn't up Michelins game in this area. Time will tell!
Edited by PaulD86 on Thursday 30th May 23:36
I did a few hillclimbs and Sprints in mine back in 2014. I was on PS2's then as not much else available in 19" but it was still really good fun and competed with many modified cars in the PCGB Speed championship. I was very sideways in those days having come into the sport from a Rallying background 
Be interested to hear what the Contis are like as they start to wear. One of the reasons I like Michelin as the performance doesn’t noticeably dropoff with wear like many rivals. In fact they seem to encourage people to use them until they aren’t far off being illegal.
When I got my 987 it had a Contis fitted (a long time ago so probably SC3 or something!) and they seemed very poor even with about 4mm left, correct pressure, not particularly old. Consequently I swapped them for a set of Michelin and rarely buy anything else.
Would be good to see more tyres test data on worn tyres rather than only which is the best when new.
When I got my 987 it had a Contis fitted (a long time ago so probably SC3 or something!) and they seemed very poor even with about 4mm left, correct pressure, not particularly old. Consequently I swapped them for a set of Michelin and rarely buy anything else.
Would be good to see more tyres test data on worn tyres rather than only which is the best when new.
Edited by cslwannabe on Friday 31st May 20:48
PaulD86 said:
Small update for anyone interested in how the Continental Sport Contact 7s are.
I had these fitted earlier this year but since fitting I hadn't done many miles. Last week, however, I had a really good run and now have some more feedback on them.
In short, I'm a happy man. In every way they feel better than the Super Sports they replaced. Steering feel in particular is a chunk better, and the improvement which has surprised me most has been in braking - I can brake later and harder without ABS kicking in and it almost feels like the car has had a minor brake upgrade. Wet miles have been minimal so far, but the impression from the few there have been is positive and they are clearly better in the wet than the old MPSS by a big margin (though this was always their weakest area).
When I picked these, I considered the PS4S which has been the sort of default tyre for many for years, and which I've been impressed by on other cars, including various Porsches. Various reviews, however, pushed me to the Continentals. No regrets. Admittedly I haven't had the PS4S on the R, but based on how they have felt on the cars I have had them on, I am happy with the decision I've gone with and would recommend the Contis. The car just feels "right" on them. There is always a subjective element to tyre reviews, but I would be surprised if anyone was disappointed by these. Grip feels there or thereabouts with the Cup 2s I have tried the R on.
The one thing I can't comment on is wear, but it's not a car that does huge miles so it isn't ever going to be a deal breaker for me.
My CR had Contact Sport 7s fitted when I bought it. I have really liked them. Good in all weathers on the road and they have been great on track. I had these fitted earlier this year but since fitting I hadn't done many miles. Last week, however, I had a really good run and now have some more feedback on them.
In short, I'm a happy man. In every way they feel better than the Super Sports they replaced. Steering feel in particular is a chunk better, and the improvement which has surprised me most has been in braking - I can brake later and harder without ABS kicking in and it almost feels like the car has had a minor brake upgrade. Wet miles have been minimal so far, but the impression from the few there have been is positive and they are clearly better in the wet than the old MPSS by a big margin (though this was always their weakest area).
When I picked these, I considered the PS4S which has been the sort of default tyre for many for years, and which I've been impressed by on other cars, including various Porsches. Various reviews, however, pushed me to the Continentals. No regrets. Admittedly I haven't had the PS4S on the R, but based on how they have felt on the cars I have had them on, I am happy with the decision I've gone with and would recommend the Contis. The car just feels "right" on them. There is always a subjective element to tyre reviews, but I would be surprised if anyone was disappointed by these. Grip feels there or thereabouts with the Cup 2s I have tried the R on.
The one thing I can't comment on is wear, but it's not a car that does huge miles so it isn't ever going to be a deal breaker for me.
When it is hot they are surprisingly sticky with good wear rates. In the wet they are grippy and predictable.
What I like best is the progressive feel from grip to slip, never feeling nervous on the edge or suddenly letting go.
I can only compare them to Yokohama 052s which are not day to day tyres. The SC7s are a little bit softer in terms of steering accuracy and turn in, but not badly so.
They are a really good overall tyre and have survived a few hundred track miles and fifty hillclimbs and still have 4mm left.
Edited by Old Trout on Saturday 1st June 10:38
ajondyh said:
I did a few hillclimbs and Sprints in mine back in 2014. I was on PS2's then as not much else available in 19" but it was still really good fun and competed with many modified cars in the PCGB Speed championship. I was very sideways in those days having come into the sport from a Rallying background
Nice 
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