Best value for money Porsche GT car
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GT4RS said:
What are everyone’s thoughts on what is the best value for money Porsche GT car for sale today.
My thoughts are it’s either a 996gt3 gen 2 or the current GT4. Both look excellent value compared to others.
Seen as we have had very mixed replies please let me rephrase my question. My thoughts are it’s either a 996gt3 gen 2 or the current GT4. Both look excellent value compared to others.
What GT car offers best value for money at current used prices?
Cheib said:
I think the GT4 is probably the best value because
- If the next GT4 is a Turbo Flat 4 the current car will become very desirable as the only naturally aspirated GT4 Porsche will ever make
- If the next GT4 is a naturally aspirated Flat 6 it will likely make the car significantly more expensive than the current car as this engine will effectively be bespoke to this car in whatever tune it's in. So current cars will look decent value either way to me.
Caveat to that is that they make a lot more GT4's than they did of the current model. I think there's a significant chance of this because there are no other GT cars in the pipeline, they now know they've got a winner and the car it's based is a volume product for Porsche so they don't have the constraints in terms of build volumes that the 911 has.
If you're looking at value I suppose one fo the things you need to look at where is a safe place for your money...which in Porsche land means low build volumes...which makes these three interesting
996.2 GT3 RS 119 UK cars
997.2 GT3 169 UK cars
997.2 GT3 RS 139 UK cars
Numbers lifted from this 911 UK thread http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=127292
I reckon a decent place for your money is a well specced 997.2 GT3 in CS trim...they've definitely come off in price.
This one is"high mileage" at 35k miles but £105k for an OPC car isn't bad value https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Or even this Hexagon car which is low miles and really well specced for £125k https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I reckon Hexagon are feeling the squeeze at the moment....there cars are definitely more sensibly priced than normal. That car is only £8k more than this Comfort Spec that JZM have https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Thank you for this reply, looking at the number you have quoted it does seem 997.2 gt3 cars look best value at the moment. I wasn’t aware so little existed in the UK. If the new gt4 is 4.0 NA as expected I think this will also prove to be very popular and there will definitely be a mad rush to get hold of one. A good used GT4 for 80k is starting to look excellent value compared to a 991.1 gt3 for 120k. Is it really 40k better? - If the next GT4 is a Turbo Flat 4 the current car will become very desirable as the only naturally aspirated GT4 Porsche will ever make
- If the next GT4 is a naturally aspirated Flat 6 it will likely make the car significantly more expensive than the current car as this engine will effectively be bespoke to this car in whatever tune it's in. So current cars will look decent value either way to me.
Caveat to that is that they make a lot more GT4's than they did of the current model. I think there's a significant chance of this because there are no other GT cars in the pipeline, they now know they've got a winner and the car it's based is a volume product for Porsche so they don't have the constraints in terms of build volumes that the 911 has.
If you're looking at value I suppose one fo the things you need to look at where is a safe place for your money...which in Porsche land means low build volumes...which makes these three interesting
996.2 GT3 RS 119 UK cars
997.2 GT3 169 UK cars
997.2 GT3 RS 139 UK cars
Numbers lifted from this 911 UK thread http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=127292
I reckon a decent place for your money is a well specced 997.2 GT3 in CS trim...they've definitely come off in price.
This one is"high mileage" at 35k miles but £105k for an OPC car isn't bad value https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Or even this Hexagon car which is low miles and really well specced for £125k https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I reckon Hexagon are feeling the squeeze at the moment....there cars are definitely more sensibly priced than normal. That car is only £8k more than this Comfort Spec that JZM have https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
TDT said:
GT4RS said:
Thank you for this reply, looking at the number you have quoted it does seem 997.2 gt3 cars look best value at the moment. I wasn’t aware so little existed in the UK. If the new gt4 is 4.0 NA as expected I think this will also prove to be very popular and there will definitely be a mad rush to get hold of one. A good used GT4 for 80k is starting to look excellent value compared to a 991.1 gt3 for 120k. Is it really 40k better?
Most people will buy this on finance, so it’s really a question of is it £200, £400 or £600 extra a month better than a GT4 for 6months or a year and then they’ll move on anyway. Factor in the servicing costs and depreciation.... might not turn out to be quite £40k.But that’s they kind of maths many people apply for a purchase like this. They’re toys.
arcamalpha said:
I think there are deals to be had on these cars too - esp 997 GT3s. When I sold mine last year they were advertising at £110k and were offering me £80k trade.
With the market slow as it is now I reckon you’d be in a great buying position. I’d be offering £10k under at end of month and waiting for them to bite.
That’s some spread between trade and retail! With the market slow as it is now I reckon you’d be in a great buying position. I’d be offering £10k under at end of month and waiting for them to bite.
If that’s what they would offer trade it wouldn’t make it good value considering you can expect to take a 30k bath the second you drive off in it.
woollyjoe said:
isaldiri said:
woollyjoe said:
My personal interpretation is that the 991.1 GT3 engine simply wasn't good enough for motorsport and used older engine technology.
That Porsche came back with a different 4lt GT3 engine that is used in motorsport, further reinforces in my mind that the 991.1 GT3 engine wasn't worth developing.
You do actually realise that the new 4l in the .2gt3 is just a development of the 3.8 in the .1? Solid valvetrain does not mean it's a miraculous new engine that throws away the previous one with hydraulic lifters.That Porsche came back with a different 4lt GT3 engine that is used in motorsport, further reinforces in my mind that the 991.1 GT3 engine wasn't worth developing.
Obviously the new rs has further tweaks over the new standard gt3 but the basics are the same.
The engine in the gen 2 is an updated version of the gen 1, hopefully without the problems!
isaldiri said:
woollyjoe said:
I suppose all engines since the DFI are "closely related" in non SME language, but that isn't what I'm talking about. You say it is marketing, and the company that make the cars call it engineering. Shared parts don't make an engine a development of the other. Just economics.
I'm asking why, because you're contradicting Porsche with words like "probably much the same" and asking me to look at "engine part numbers". I'm just asking for a reasonable explanation, not disagreeing, although i have no reason to doubt what Porsche and journalists say.
I can only repeat - just take a look at the Porsche parts catalogue and decide for yourself what actually has changed. The MA175/176 in the 991.1 GT3 and RS can't be that different if it can share common if updated parts and technical illustrations with the new MA177 .2 gt3 engine on the same parts catalogue. What has obviously changed in the .2 gt3 are added oiling elements but a new oil pump design and added crankshaft oiling supply does not imo make an engine have 'little to do' with the old one. I'm asking why, because you're contradicting Porsche with words like "probably much the same" and asking me to look at "engine part numbers". I'm just asking for a reasonable explanation, not disagreeing, although i have no reason to doubt what Porsche and journalists say.
Let’s hope it’s more reliable over time than the last and it can carve its way into motorsport.
Porsche have had long enough to improve MA17 series of engines considering all the problems started with MA175 which is some time ago now.
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