981 GT4 high mileage prices
Discussion
Hi all,
Looking to get into a 981 GT4.
A friend of mine is going to be part ex'ing his car in for a later model, spec below.
The car is a 16 plate, 26,000 miles 1 owner example.
I do plan on using this car, very frequently, so thought best to go for a higher mileage car vs a garage queen to remove possible increased depreciation.
Do we think the values will drop somewhat now cars are falling outside the PCP finance option? Car in question is 62k.
Porsche Communications Management with extended navigation module £2,141
Full bucket seats £1,907
Sports exhaust system £1,530
Black leather interior with stitching £1,344
Sport Chrono Paket inkl. PorscheTrack Precision App und Vorrüstung Laptrigger £1,085
Metallic Paint £558
Telephone module for PCM £527
Fully automatic climate control £518
Bi-Xenon-Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS) in black £477
Sound Package Plus incl. CD storage box £396
Automatically dimming mirrors with integrated rain sensor £332
Digital radio £324
Sun visors in Alcantara £279
Cruise control £267
Light design package £203
Seat belts in Guards Red £179
Online Services £122
Floor mats £73
Fuel tank 64-litre £0
Jet Black metallic £0
Passenger footwell storage net £0
Smoking package £0
I have never owned a Porsche, so am very excited by this proposition.
I can see there are some cars on AT and PH that have seem to stuck on the used market, are 981 slow to sell typically?
Thanks for any thoughts on this.
Alex
Looking to get into a 981 GT4.
A friend of mine is going to be part ex'ing his car in for a later model, spec below.
The car is a 16 plate, 26,000 miles 1 owner example.
I do plan on using this car, very frequently, so thought best to go for a higher mileage car vs a garage queen to remove possible increased depreciation.
Do we think the values will drop somewhat now cars are falling outside the PCP finance option? Car in question is 62k.
Porsche Communications Management with extended navigation module £2,141
Full bucket seats £1,907
Sports exhaust system £1,530
Black leather interior with stitching £1,344
Sport Chrono Paket inkl. PorscheTrack Precision App und Vorrüstung Laptrigger £1,085
Metallic Paint £558
Telephone module for PCM £527
Fully automatic climate control £518
Bi-Xenon-Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS) in black £477
Sound Package Plus incl. CD storage box £396
Automatically dimming mirrors with integrated rain sensor £332
Digital radio £324
Sun visors in Alcantara £279
Cruise control £267
Light design package £203
Seat belts in Guards Red £179
Online Services £122
Floor mats £73
Fuel tank 64-litre £0
Jet Black metallic £0
Passenger footwell storage net £0
Smoking package £0
I have never owned a Porsche, so am very excited by this proposition.
I can see there are some cars on AT and PH that have seem to stuck on the used market, are 981 slow to sell typically?
Thanks for any thoughts on this.
Alex
Andyoz said:
You're on the right track buying one with higher than normal miles (26k is still nothing though as that's a tough engine and running gear).
I think a few months back Ashgoods sold a similar miles, buckets GT Silver one for £62k?
That’s what I think too. It has FPSH too so maintained properly. I think a few months back Ashgoods sold a similar miles, buckets GT Silver one for £62k?
Armitage.Shanks said:
It's a good price for that mileage and spec. Is that the px price he's been offered? If so I'd jump on it.
Porsche offered him 60 for it 62 is what hed like for itI see they are rightfully very mileage price sensitive. So hope using the car i would loose less but the finance deal I have been offered is rather good too
jcosh said:
I don’t think sports exhaust was a GT4 option, standard? Can’t remember.
At £62k is not a bad price but I suspect an OPC trade bid on that car would be mid to high £50K’s. And retail at mid to high £60K’s.
i know WBAC offered him 58k when he had it inspected, which i guess is a good starting pointAt £62k is not a bad price but I suspect an OPC trade bid on that car would be mid to high £50K’s. And retail at mid to high £60K’s.
CloudStuff said:
That's low milegae - not in comparison to other cars on the market, but in relation to the age of the car.
I prefer cars with a healthy mileage, they are engineered to be driven!
i am like you, especially when you know they have been looked after. My only concern was possible sudden dip in value due to purchasing options reducing (no more pcp due to age of car), limiting market I prefer cars with a healthy mileage, they are engineered to be driven!
boxsey said:
The availability of PCP is not a major factor in the market for GT4s or other Porsche GT cars. Many are bought without finance and 'many' is misleading because there were only about 600 UK GT4s. So, there are plenty of people with 'cash' to buy them. The market for GT cars doesn't tend to follow other car markets. It's a pretty niche market. If the GT4 follows previous GT cars it will soon hit its low market value point and stay there. Other GT cars have done that and then climbed to a higher value (e.g. the low point for a 996 GT3 was about £35K but they now average about £75K and are still slowly rising).
If I had to guess, I would say the low market value for the GT4 will be £60K. YMMV. So if you're getting it for £62K there's a good change that depreciation will be minimal. However, beware that running costs (fuel, tax, tyres, brakes and servicing) are high. So it's not cheap motoring!
Thank you, this has really given me some clarity and totally makes sense If I had to guess, I would say the low market value for the GT4 will be £60K. YMMV. So if you're getting it for £62K there's a good change that depreciation will be minimal. However, beware that running costs (fuel, tax, tyres, brakes and servicing) are high. So it's not cheap motoring!
Armitage.Shanks said:
I think your starting point will be over £60k if he's already been offered that by OPC? As Boxsey says at £62k its a steal and I dare say if he advertises it provately someone will take him up. I would, but I've already got one
Yes, 60k at OPC, and 62k to me. He doesnt want to spend time trying to sell it privately or SORav185 said:
£62k about right for a 2 owner 2016 GT4 with 26k miles. Mileage below average but quite a bit above average for a GT4.
PCP ending will have no affect whatsoever on 981 GT4 residuals they are holding up well and the right spec cars sell quickily if priced realistically. The market will only improve now with lockdown easing better weather and track season beckoning.
Sports exhaust is standard.
Spec appears decent although black with red stitching? not the best combo for resale.
I would want a rev readout before agreeing a purchase.
I understand that I will lose money, that is a given, I was more worried (crystal ball moment i know), about the market suddenly bottoming out, more for justification to myself than anything. Agreed regarding rev readout, have there been some horror stories then?PCP ending will have no affect whatsoever on 981 GT4 residuals they are holding up well and the right spec cars sell quickily if priced realistically. The market will only improve now with lockdown easing better weather and track season beckoning.
Sports exhaust is standard.
Spec appears decent although black with red stitching? not the best combo for resale.
I would want a rev readout before agreeing a purchase.
jcosh said:
The perceived 'high' mileage on these cars is daft. I recently sold a very high spec GT4 with 17k miles on it. Everybody I spoke to - trade or punters commented on the 'high mileage'. It was four years old, so circa £4k miles a year, as I say daft!
Mine was a one owner car with warranty and in perfect condition with PPF etc, but still took time to find a buyer. In fact it's now, still, for sale with the OPC.
Perceived value and someone buying it, totally different i can see. Same for housing market! Why taking so long? is it just the buyer pool being smaller? Mine was a one owner car with warranty and in perfect condition with PPF etc, but still took time to find a buyer. In fact it's now, still, for sale with the OPC.
Geoff39GL said:
No the OPC will look to make £8k so if they buy at £60k they will want to clear £68k
If you buy at £62k your money will be pretty safe, the market is unlikely to collapse there are not many cars in total and they are just brilliant what has already been stated I agree with, they are likely to bottom out at around £60k. If you look at the Cayman R which was around £50K when new and good cars now 10 years old are still selling for £40k.
If you want it then buy it you will have lots of fun
Thank you. Not sure why I am so conscious this time about buying! Maybe because its my first Porsche! I nearly got a cayman R back in 2011 but opted for a 1M which I kept 5 years and came out even! If you buy at £62k your money will be pretty safe, the market is unlikely to collapse there are not many cars in total and they are just brilliant what has already been stated I agree with, they are likely to bottom out at around £60k. If you look at the Cayman R which was around £50K when new and good cars now 10 years old are still selling for £40k.
If you want it then buy it you will have lots of fun
JohnGK said:
I tried selling mine privately for 66k, 19000 miles and porsche warranty.
No takers so sold to a dealer for slightly less but without the cost of replacing tyres etc so quite happy with price I got.
Someone now is going to pay a significant premium, for the cost to dealer of 2 tyres.
So a high miler that I struggled to keep this low, such great cars to drive, always an event.
Really! I I took mine to we buy any car last week and they offered £67k!No takers so sold to a dealer for slightly less but without the cost of replacing tyres etc so quite happy with price I got.
Someone now is going to pay a significant premium, for the cost to dealer of 2 tyres.
So a high miler that I struggled to keep this low, such great cars to drive, always an event.
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