Resto/Mod Backdating costs...

Resto/Mod Backdating costs...

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GTRene

16,808 posts

226 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Mintbird said:
I advertised mine on PCARMARKET -

Will be interesting to see where the bids end up...

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1988-porsche-93...
looks lovely, something I imagined with a 930 turbo as base model, hope it goes to a good home.

Grantstown

994 posts

89 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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BrewsterBear said:
That's mine now listed for sale with our hosts. I think it's up for a fair price given the market, what's been done and the condition of the car. It's a tired old trope, but I won't be upset if it doesn't go, however given my current life circumstances I feel like a change might be in order.
I’d agree that it looks like a very fair price considering the work that’s been done. I go to Ninemeister for work on my car and some of their commissions for Restomods are just stunning. Yours does remind me of their 9m11. I find it incredible that they have people who plough in 300K + a donor car, drive it briefly and then sell on for 180 before starting again. There are folk who just love the journey and decision making along the way.

I would be interested in your wonderful looking car, were it not for the eye watering list of things that my wife has planned for our (already lovely) property next year.

If I was you I’d try and keep it. The value of Restomods doesn’t often seem to reflect the investment and sheer effort that goes into them, so it’s always going to be worth the most to the original creator.

BrewsterBear

1,507 posts

194 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Grantstown said:
I’d agree that it looks like a very fair price considering the work that’s been done. I go to Ninemeister for work on my car and some of their commissions for Restomods are just stunning. Yours does remind me of their 9m11. I find it incredible that they have people who plough in 300K + a donor car, drive it briefly and then sell on for 180 before starting again. There are folk who just love the journey and decision making along the way.

I would be interested in your wonderful looking car, were it not for the eye watering list of things that my wife has planned for our (already lovely) property next year.

If I was you I’d try and keep it. The value of Restomods doesn’t often seem to reflect the investment and sheer effort that goes into them, so it’s always going to be worth the most to the original creator.
Thanks. I agree that any restored and modified car is worth most to the person who commissioned it. I'm still unsure of letting it go, but life changes and I'm looking for a property abroad. If I let this go it would allow me to get into one without financing. If I don't achieve what I want for it then it won't go and plans will be delayed a year or two.

This was always built as a keeper and having owned it 12 years it's not a case of throwing money at an idea then getting bored. We'll see. Values of aircooled seem to bucking the general downward trend recently.

Mintbird

567 posts

103 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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GTRene said:
Mintbird said:
I advertised mine on PCARMARKET -

Will be interesting to see where the bids end up...

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1988-porsche-93...
looks lovely, something I imagined with a 930 turbo as base model, hope it goes to a good home.
Depends it has a long way to go to meet reserve. dont really think it will end up selling - just trying an auction to see if there is any traction - worth a shot.
thanks for the kind words smile

julian987R

6,840 posts

61 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Some interesting build history to this one

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15732278

Mintbird

567 posts

103 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Seems like a very nice car, not all of the choices are to my taste but taste is very personal.

Im curious as to how a SC engine bored up to 3.5 litres can be a shortstroke though...

thegreenhell

15,709 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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That's been for sale a long while. They've changed the wheels and removed the graphics since last year.


Filibuster

3,180 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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julian987R said:
Some interesting build history to this one

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15732278
What Mintbird said. The car looks like a hotrod with the rear looking "over tyred".

Again, a car that has been built to the exact specification of someone to be sold very shortly after completion. confused
I do realize that circumstances may change, and sometimes people are more interested in the process than the finished project, but we see this way too often with build like this. So the owner has driven it to the black forrest and back and afterwards he lost interest in it and accumulated less than 1.5k miles in a year and is now selling it?

If I where able to build my perfect dream 911, I wouldn't stop driving it. Me too, I have fallen out of love with cars and lost interest in them, but if you are having your dream car built for two years and are able to specify every single detail to your wish, this certainly is a different story.

Or is someone looking to make a profit? (if this is even possible...)

IMI A

9,431 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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^^^ its been through a few owners. Doesn't surprise me air cooled an acquired taste and build quality pretty shoddy in a few places on that one. Look at the rear light housings and compare.

Cheib

23,348 posts

177 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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thegreenhell said:
That's been for sale a long while. They've changed the wheels and removed the graphics since last year.

It sold once when they first had it and as you say they've not changed the look, it's been for sale this time for quite a while. Whoever had it built didn't hang on to it for very long....

Given they have retained the original Bilstein shocks with the way the car is set up it won't be a pleasant thing to hussle down a country road. The suspension is set very low.

Edited by Cheib on Tuesday 21st November 19:05

Filibuster

3,180 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Does anybody know what they want for it?

Sukh13

771 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1976-porsche-9...

Sold for 55.5k inc fees after a 25k engine rebuild and 63k back date...

I wonder what that means for the value of this one:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023100426...

Filibuster

3,180 posts

217 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Sukh13 said:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1976-porsche-9...

Sold for 55.5k inc fees after a 25k engine rebuild and 63k back date...

I wonder what that means for the value of this one:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023100426...
Am I missing something? Is this the bargain of the century?
I even like how it looks and on papers looks to be a fun drive.
£60k for a sorted/restored/restomeded aircooled car seems incredibly inexpensive!

Sukh13

771 posts

187 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Sign of the times...

Wilmslowboy

4,226 posts

208 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Filibuster said:
Sukh13 said:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1976-porsche-9...

Sold for 55.5k inc fees after a 25k engine rebuild and 63k back date...

I wonder what that means for the value of this one:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023100426...
Am I missing something? Is this the bargain of the century?
I even like how it looks and on papers looks to be a fun drive.
£60k for a sorted/restored/restomeded aircooled car seems incredibly inexpensive!
I wonder how much being LHD impacted it’s value.

I sold a similar age 911, also subject to a £25k engine / gearbox rebuild, drove like a dream, was RHD, untouched body wise and original 2.7 engine (just over £50k)


Sukh13

771 posts

187 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Wilmslowboy said:
I wonder how much being LHD impacted it’s value.

I sold a similar age 911, also subject to a £25k engine / gearbox rebuild, drove like a dream, was RHD, untouched body wise and original 2.7 engine (just over £50k)
That sounds tasty, when did you sell?

Cheib

23,348 posts

177 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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£60k when it comes to a 50year old car doesn’t buy you much especially when a decent % of that is a colour change and new panels….several of which don’t seem to fit very well. Also there’s something bad going on with the rear wheels…one of them is sitting relatively centrally in the arch and one isn’t.



Wilmslowboy

4,226 posts

208 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Sukh13 said:
Wilmslowboy said:
I wonder how much being LHD impacted it’s value.

I sold a similar age 911, also subject to a £25k engine / gearbox rebuild, drove like a dream, was RHD, untouched body wise and original 2.7 engine (just over £50k)
That sounds tasty, when did you sell?
About a year ago, didn't use it anywhere near enough. Drove amazing, narrow bodied, really well set up and delightful short shift gearbox (with pedals that lent themselves perfectly to heel & toe).



Sukh13

771 posts

187 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Wilmslowboy said:
About a year ago, didn't use it anywhere near enough. Drove amazing, narrow bodied, really well set up and delightful short shift gearbox (with pedals that lent themselves perfectly to heel & toe).
Sounds like a dream car.

I think an air cooled car is the perfect car to have fun at legal speed limits. The modern cars are just too capable.

julian987R

6,840 posts

61 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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