More hype and plain silliness
Discussion
mollytherocker said:
anonymous said:
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I struggle to explain it in cold hard logic terms which you are asking for.I suppose its a sea change, almost a movement? The perfect storm, not least led by the modern motor car becoming more detached and sanitised.
Theres a lot of car enthusiasts out there who want the smell of petrol, they want to wield spanners, they want a car that feels alive, the danger of direct control etc etc.
Its all consolidating into a huge desire for classic cars.
Look, we all know its over done, these cars are just sitting around, dealers are awash with 'high quality' 3.2's at ever increasingly bonkers prices, go it any bodyshop and you'll see at least one being put back on the road to punt on, come spring you'll not move for patched up aircooled Pork. If you've owned one for a while and your quids in, happy days, if your buying now be prepared for stern questions from the wife about why did you spunk our pension on that old car...
Black_mamba said:
Look, we all know its over done, these cars are just sitting around, dealers are awash with 'high quality' 3.2's at ever increasingly bonkers prices, go it any bodyshop and you'll see at least one being put back on the road to punt on, come spring you'll not move for patched up aircooled Pork. If you've owned one for a while and your quids in, happy days, if your buying now be prepared for stern questions from the wife about why did you spunk our pension on that old car...
Father in law does a lot of classic cars (mechanically-Not paint)He's just about to get his Jag XK150 painted and a TR2. The place he users is awash with of old SC's 3.2's having B Posts done etc also a lot of Mark 2 Escorts in there.
The majority are trade cars, patched up old 911's with 100k+ miles worn interiors non standard radios's etc etc
Look at this for example.
Stupid money for a car which never existed (there was never a cab in 1975 so would suggest it started its life as a Targa)
Its should be advertised at £8k at the most
crazy times
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Stupid money for a car which never existed (there was never a cab in 1975 so would suggest it started its life as a Targa)
Its should be advertised at £8k at the most
crazy times
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Classicdriver said:
Look at this for example.
Stupid money for a car which never existed (there was never a cab in 1975 so would suggest it started its life as a Targa)
Its should be advertised at £8k at the most
crazy times
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Nah, that's a 3.2 carrera shell (albeit codged up to look like a 964). Either a misprint on the year (1985?) or some VIN fakery for some other reason.Stupid money for a car which never existed (there was never a cab in 1975 so would suggest it started its life as a Targa)
Its should be advertised at £8k at the most
crazy times
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Its no different from any other old classic car that's been restored, look at the E Types that have been brought back to life. If its been done well by a reputable restorer and nothing is hidden I don't see a problem. Its the back street cowboys or dodgy dealers who have seen the prices of good cars escalate and are jumping on the band wagon bodging up old cars and selling to either folks with more money than sense or naïve souls who don't know any better.
Classicdriver said:
Plus the advert itself is horribly turgid. 'Lavished with extra's' Thanks Barbara CartlandThe car is a total POS
Classicdriver said:
I'd personally run a mile from anything that dealers sells. The red and white 964 lookalikes are hideous. Hopefully someone buys them for £8k and puts them back to how they looked previously one day but even at today's prices I fear they're too far gone.9e 28 said:
I'd personally run a mile from anything that dealers sells. The red and white 964 lookalikes are hideous. Hopefully someone buys them for £8k and puts them back to how they looked previously one day but even at today's prices I fear they're too far gone.
Haha try dealing with Paul Stephens ! Scooty100 said:
9e 28 said:
I'd personally run a mile from anything that dealers sells. The red and white 964 lookalikes are hideous. Hopefully someone buys them for £8k and puts them back to how they looked previously one day but even at today's prices I fear they're too far gone.
Haha try dealing with Paul Stephens ! His prices are silly these days also
http://hexagonclassics.com/cars/1990-porsche-928-5...
This one i struggle with a bit. Was offered this i think back in late 2014 for £35k through Hairpin. I've always found Hairpin straightforward and v.helpful/professional to deal with it. They were open telling me it stood them in at £30k and were happy to take a quick profit. I declined as wasn't really looking for a GT type classic and Hexagon bought it. H then mark it up at £60k ish? does that mean every car they have for circa £60k has that sort of margin in it? Makes you wonder but perhaps they paid more for it - I somehow doubt it. Still not sold a year on. Lovely car mind doubt theres a better one out there.
Oh and the lovely black 964 they have is a very "rare" tip lol. Love it!!!
This one i struggle with a bit. Was offered this i think back in late 2014 for £35k through Hairpin. I've always found Hairpin straightforward and v.helpful/professional to deal with it. They were open telling me it stood them in at £30k and were happy to take a quick profit. I declined as wasn't really looking for a GT type classic and Hexagon bought it. H then mark it up at £60k ish? does that mean every car they have for circa £60k has that sort of margin in it? Makes you wonder but perhaps they paid more for it - I somehow doubt it. Still not sold a year on. Lovely car mind doubt theres a better one out there.
Oh and the lovely black 964 they have is a very "rare" tip lol. Love it!!!
anonymous said:
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Or maybe we are both wrong and so are Hairpin i.e. they had it on for sale too cheaply? Time will tell - my bet is that it will probably sell if and when 928s take off. I felt it wasn't enough of a sports car for me. Too refined, not raw and exciting like an earlier 911 
This advert for a £20k 1984 3.2 Targa is typical.
Quote:"Everything working apart from interior fan which is a pretty simple fix. This is a 31 year old car which is mostly original, it is not in mint condition, its very presentable and useable.
Small bits of corrosion starting to appear on the pillar as you open doors and some on rear bumper, again nothing serious and easy to rectify, i'd rather leave it original so there is nothing to hide.
From experience corrosion is a big deal it's a minimum of £1,500 per pillar and that's assuming the car isn't hiding much worse corrosion which may not be found until it's stripped down.
Quote:"Everything working apart from interior fan which is a pretty simple fix. This is a 31 year old car which is mostly original, it is not in mint condition, its very presentable and useable.
Small bits of corrosion starting to appear on the pillar as you open doors and some on rear bumper, again nothing serious and easy to rectify, i'd rather leave it original so there is nothing to hide.
From experience corrosion is a big deal it's a minimum of £1,500 per pillar and that's assuming the car isn't hiding much worse corrosion which may not be found until it's stripped down.
roygarth said:
I think all of his picks are reasonable actually - pretty good advice.roygarth said:
Somewhat dubious, hyping up the BMW's and 911's he sells. The issue being he puts a 3.2 Carrera at £40-50k. If it's a mint low mileage car then it may be a good investment, but most aren't.
g7jhp said:
roygarth said:
Somewhat dubious, hyping up the BMW's and 911's he sells. The issue being he puts a 3.2 Carrera at £40-50k. If it's a mint low mileage car then it may be a good investment, but most aren't.
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