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BAMoFo said:
There is certainly a strong case for less is more. I've owned 911 turbos that have been modified to the point that they have been too fast for road use and would have benefitted from spending thousands of pounds to detune them. My current 1975 RSR replica would also be better if it was dialled back a lot to make it more of a road car than a race car.
And that's one of the reasons why a lot of these restomods come onto the market with extremely low mileage. More 'Resto' than 'Mod' - seems one heck of an open cheque book rebuild.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16745467
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16745467
KittyLitter said:
More 'Resto' than 'Mod' - seems one heck of an open cheque book rebuild.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16745467
I had such long time ago, way before I had Internet, that way I got it for a very good price and the Dutch seller/handler did not know what he had, even I did not know at first, I just wanted that nice Porsche Carrera 3.0 with some very special goodies, could not sleep over it so bought it.https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16745467
here when I just got it, needed still a Ducht road registration, came from Germany.
the side window surroundings had sort titanium list, looked so nice in the real world, those are old scanned in pictures sadly but hey.
And ow, also Turbo seats ans all leather all green leather full! also dash and rear and green rug.
when I had the plates I drove to a known Porsche specialist to ask if its what I thought it was, he checked the numbers and yep :-)
Later I guy in a bus stopped were yo see my car in the picture, he came from work and I was outside washing the car... he said do you want to sell it? I sad, depends what you offer, he did me a great offer (I thought at that point in time) and it was gone... up to my next bucketlist car to try ;-) good times back then.
Wilmslowboy said:
Personally I would not touch a mag engine which has been opened up to 2.9 - they barely hold together at stock displacement - thats like bringing a person with heart problems to a BBQ steakhouse!
Again more Resto than Mod - seems to have had a major overhaul
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405229...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405229...
This one is coming back for another go on CC
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1988-porsche-9...
it is lovely in my opinion
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1988-porsche-9...
it is lovely in my opinion
Koln-RS said:
Yes, also a fan of originality - whether concours ‘factory’ fresh, or with the patina many years and miles of enjoyable use.
Can understand a few discrete mechanical upgrades, but cynical/sceptical about many of the butchered replicas and backdates - and especially the crazy prices some people are asking or paying.
Be interesting to see what this nice original G50 3.2 achieves against the backdrop of what people are asking for highly modified examples.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1987-porsche-9...
As I'm sure you know, I disagree. Restomods if done properly, drive and offer much more than a standard car Imo. That jacked up mess above, offers what exactly? Looks awful, will make an awful fast road or track car. And personally I'd feel a complete tool going anywhere in it. Can understand a few discrete mechanical upgrades, but cynical/sceptical about many of the butchered replicas and backdates - and especially the crazy prices some people are asking or paying.
Be interesting to see what this nice original G50 3.2 achieves against the backdrop of what people are asking for highly modified examples.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1987-porsche-9...
Where I'm completely lost is when I see them come up for sale as soon as they're finished. You will never ever get your money back. There are 2 acid green cars and a grey one on ebay, best part of 250k each!!! No ones paying that for someone else's project.
ImbackYo said:
I've never understood this craze. Looks awful, doesn't do anything really well apart from the odd bit of mildly rough surface. I dont get it and doing it to an older 911 is even more strange.
Imo of course and each to their own.
It makes less sense in this country, but in other parts of the world there are lots of gravel roads and areas of rocky desert to drive on where a GT3 RS would be utterly useless. If I lived in one of those places then this is absolutely how I'd want my 911.Imo of course and each to their own.
thegreenhell said:
It makes less sense in this country, but in other parts of the world there are lots of gravel roads and areas of rocky desert to drive on where a GT3 RS would be utterly useless. If I lived in one of those places then this is absolutely how I'd want my 911.
I agree there are places better suited to this kind of car. Personally Id get a proper off-road car unless I could afford to have a dakar alongside a standard GT3/RS.KittyLitter said:
This one is coming back for another go on CC
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1988-porsche-9...
it is lovely in my opinion
I think so too. Where has it failed to sell previously in terms of price? The market is certainly cooling and pool of buyers is limited. https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1988-porsche-9...
it is lovely in my opinion
What makes this car a good 'un?
Ffffaster said:
I think so too. Where has it failed to sell previously in terms of price? The market is certainly cooling and pool of buyers is limited.
What makes this car a good 'un?
Previous failed auction on a different site here, with more details and videos than CC provides - https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1988-porsche-93...What makes this car a good 'un?
thegreenhell said:
Previous failed auction on a different site here, with more details and videos than CC provides - https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1988-porsche-93...
Thanks. Looks like it's on Elferspot at a VERY optimistic price. I'd be very interested to see how far it gets on CC. https://www.elferspot.com/en/car/porsche-911-modif...
I'd say the black RSR rep cost well in excess of 265,000 Euros to build and money no object I would love to own what an amazing looking 911. To get that sort of power from that air cooled block involves expensive trick engine parts. The power claims from many resto mod firms of 350 to 400bhp from their NA 3.8 to 4.0 etc are exaggerated quite often. Add to that bare metal shell rebuild, interior retrim, updated chassis and compared to other builds of similar quality its a drop in the ocean. There's guys spending double that on air cooled resto mods I would not personally touch. Having said that I do not think CC or any auction is the right platform for that 911. You'd be better off giving to a respected dealer like Autofarm, 911V, RPM or Adrian Crawford who understand modified air cooled and are passionate and about them to to market..the devil is in the detail.
Sold this 993 RS clone for £120,000. Some dealers were valuing at £75k because it looked like an RS! More difficult to make them drive like an RS!!
Sold this 993 RS clone for £120,000. Some dealers were valuing at £75k because it looked like an RS! More difficult to make them drive like an RS!!
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