Looking for a manual F430, any tips?

[Armen]

allister said:

Too late..... Less than 24 hours and it seems it's already gone!!!!

That was a cheap car - At that price it never was going to hang about.

For sure that was a bargain... if it was a real 6-speed MANUAL

[topless360]

Mike Brown said:

Well I have never seen a video like that before, it's enough to put one off the 430 altogether, to the op, why not just buy a 360. Manual and save all the manifold issues etc, 360 is only going to rarer. Fwiw I sometimes wear black gloves, Mike

Interesting you should mention that, reading this thread has gotten me half tempted to swap my manual 360 for a manual 430.

Only issue is finding one in the same spec as my 360 (Red Spider with Carbon buckets, Capristo, Challenge grill and a manual shifter) could take a very long time. Also I do think manual 360's still have some price increases to come. With 430 manual's now knocking on £100k surely they will also drag 360 prices up with them?

Does anyone have a breakdown of how many manual 360 Spiders are around vs F1?

[Armen]

Guys, to give you an indication of the European market, here is the only manual F430 Spider for sale.
2007 - 19 000 miles (30 000 km) - Daytona Black with Cuoio interior.
For sale at £150,000 at a german Ferrari dealer (205 000 €).

http://www.ferrari-eberlein.de/index.php/FahrzeugD...

[allister]

topless360 said:

Interesting you should mention that, reading this thread has gotten me half tempted to swap my manual 360 for a manual 430.

Only issue is finding one in the same spec as my 360 (Red Spider with Carbon buckets, Capristo, Challenge grill and a manual shifter) could take a very long time. Also I do think manual 360's still have some price increases to come. With 430 manual's now knocking on £100k surely they will also drag 360 prices up with them?

Does anyone have a breakdown of how many manual 360 Spiders are around vs F1?

I'm afraid I don't have any production numbers for manual 360's, although I'm certain someone on here will..... One thing I can tell you, is that there won't be many!

As for 360 manual prices rising, they have been consistently doing so for some months now. Nice examples are already being offered for good money. See below:

http://preowned.ferrari.com/en/united%20kingdom/se...

Edited by allister on Wednesday 16th September 23:28

Edited by allister on Thursday 17th September 07:12

[allister]

Armen said:

Guys, to give you an indication of the European market, here is the only manual F430 Spider for sale.
2007 - 19 000 miles (30 000 km) - Daytona Black with Cuoio interior.
For sale at £150,000 at a german Ferrari dealer (205 000 €).

http://www.ferrari-eberlein.de/index.php/FahrzeugD...

As a fellow 6 speed manual, F430 Spider owner, that makes me very happy!!

[tuscaneer]

what do we think chaps, are we going to see a sharp market correction at some point soon?? it does all seem too good to be true!

[allister]

tuscaneer said:

what do we think chaps, are we going to see a sharp market correction at some point soon?? it does all seem too good to be true!

Nobody really knows but personally, I don't think these prices will slow down any time soon..... In fact I don't think the increase has even really started yet, for what is one of the last Ferrari's ever to be made with the traditional gated, 6 speed manual box.

I think it's all about supply and demand, availability is and will continue to be low and they won't be making anymore!

For example, at risk of offending Porsche enthusiasts, look at the link below. To me this just looks like an old, left hand drive, 90's style 911 with 52,000 miles on the clock. However from what I read in the description below the photos, this is a rare car, with only around 1,000 made in this form. It may have been quick at the time but it's no longer groundbreaking, it's just a rare car.... So £250K is your price tag!

http://www.classicandsportscar.com/classifieds/cla...

Edited by allister on Thursday 17th September 08:46

[stain]

I think a market correction is imminent. (Once people in 430s realise that the carbon tubbed 650S is superior in every way and a far better long term bet financially.)

[dang2407]

stain said:

I think a market correction is imminent. (Once people in 430s realise that the carbon tubbed 650S is superior in every way and a far better long term bet financially.)

Really?? The 650S sounds sh_t, it's turbo'd and it isn't manual. So that's at least 3 ways it isn't superior.

[stain]

Whoosh

[Armen]

stain said:

I think a market correction is imminent. (Once people in 430s realise that the carbon tubbed 650S is superior in every way and a far better long term bet financially.)

I don't think so my friend

Manual F430 and 650S are really incomparable...

[TISPKJ]

stain said:

Whoosh

wasted on this lot mate
I thought it was funny ...... he will be along shortly

[allister]

stain said:

I think a market correction is imminent. (Once people in 430s realise that the carbon tubbed 650S is superior in every way and a far better long term bet financially.)

To be fair, it may be that the 650S turns out to be a good investment, although I really don't see that having any impact at all on manual F430 prices.

[dang2407]

You need to append a smiley when you are being sar-car-stic

[red_duke]

stain said:

I think a market correction is imminent. (Once people in 430s realise that the carbon tubbed 650S is superior in every way and a far better long term bet financially.)

I was reaching for my quill for a moment there. Lucky I realised you were rambolambo baiting.

He must still be smarting for not being invited to buy a 675LT or we'd have heard from him by now.

[_Superleggera_]

red_duke said:

I was reaching for my quill for a moment there. Lucky I realised you were rambolambo baiting.

He must still be smarting for not being invited to buy a 675LT or we'd have heard from him by now.

It's ok, I've got one he can have if he really wants it

[Nano2nd]

anyone know what happened to the VVS car? disappeared from the website

[Armen]

Probably already sold... it was such a bargain.

[mbutchers]

The VVS car is still available. I had a look and a drive today. Defo a manual. Any stories that people know about this car. Please pm me with anything sensitive I
For the record, the guys down there seem like a decent bunch. However, as well as the car seemed to drive, I have no previous experience with the 430, or any modern Ferrari for that matter.
The manetino switch appeared to do very little apart from bleep when I turned it, should I have expected any noticeable change at normal revs and speed?
Any info greatly appreciated........

[Russell996]

mbutchers said:

The manetino switch appeared to do very little apart from bleep when I turned it, should I have expected any noticeable change at normal revs and speed?
Any info greatly appreciated........

The only difference you will notice in a manual is a stiffer ride as you move to sport and stiffer still in race and CST off.
F1 box gets quicker as the suspension stiffens and traction control help reduces.