Scratching a Ferrari itch
Discussion
I suspect it won't happen but I'm in a cash position of being able to scratch said itch and thinking about a 430 Spider for around 70-75k. I'd likely run it for a year or two and then move it on as I can't keep the cash tied up for that long. I realise that sticking that much money in a car, any car, is somewhat risky but I loathe finance although appreciate that it might be the way forward. How much are these depreciating, am I likely to lose much in value over two years? If I find one privately that might mitigate any losses with no dealer premium but they're not exactly thick on the ground.
Just interested in people's thoughts really.
Just interested in people's thoughts really.
Cheers chaps, not in any rush to buy especially with a decent chunk of hard earned at play. Must admit I've never been a huge fan of Ferrari but when you hear them, good God. I followed an Enzo in Weybridge once on my admittedly puny 600cc bike but with a decent helmet on and couldn't hear a thing apart from the noise coming out the back of that monster. Glorious, just glorious. I think I followed it for about five miles just for the hell of it.
I realise that owning a Ferrari is neither a risk-free or cheap endeavour but squirrelling away 8k before you've even started is galling. Throw storage, fuel, insurance and all the rest of it on top and it starts to lose its appeal. Some will of course argue if you can't afford it and so on but that's not really the point, I don't mind spending money I just don't want to start shelling out before I've even started!
Anyway, grumble over. There's a few aftermarket manufacturers around but many seem to complain about the increased noise with one or two even going back to stock (after they've been repaired). I certainly do no want more noise, any recommendations?
The Maserati is a smart looking thing but losing 20k on a car is just not something I can swallow anymore, been there and done that. Thanks for the tip though.
Anyway, grumble over. There's a few aftermarket manufacturers around but many seem to complain about the increased noise with one or two even going back to stock (after they've been repaired). I certainly do no want more noise, any recommendations?
The Maserati is a smart looking thing but losing 20k on a car is just not something I can swallow anymore, been there and done that. Thanks for the tip though.
Edited by Osinjak on Sunday 27th December 10:27
ANOpax said:
£8k was for the whole shooting match. Just replacing the manifolds will cost you half that amount. And anyway, it’s something you should use during your negotiations when buying - so it all becomes part of the purchase cost rather than ‘squirrelling’ it away for a later expense.
I would pay more for a car with aftermarket manifolds than one with OE manifolds. If you’re concerned about the noise then don’t replace the back box but you’ll still be inviting a cracked manifold. However, the consequences of it cracking will be less potentially catastrophic than if you still have the OE manifold installed.
Thanks, not sure I'm following you though. Are you saying that if you only replace the manifolds they may still crack? I thought by reading around that was all people did, replaced just the manifolds and nothing else.I would pay more for a car with aftermarket manifolds than one with OE manifolds. If you’re concerned about the noise then don’t replace the back box but you’ll still be inviting a cracked manifold. However, the consequences of it cracking will be less potentially catastrophic than if you still have the OE manifold installed.
No car is without its fair share of gremlins for sure (I own an RRS) but shelling out thousands to fix a design flaw is a bit rich, literally and metaphorically. However I'm struggling with the idea that all 15000 430s have, or will have, his problem. Can't be right, surely? I don't know the 430 exhaust system well enough in order to make an informed decision, is it going to cost 1k or 8k to sort (setting aside the engine being destroyed which will clearly involve many pennies)? I anticipate picking up any problems before the cat does its worst but I just need to weigh up the preventative piece, there seem to be mixed stories with the Ferrari warranty where some have had the manifolds covered under goodwill and others categorically not. I really don't want to be out for a hoon with a nagging doubt in my mind, where's the fun in that?
PGNSagaris said:
Main Ferrari dealer in not admitting to known design flaw shocker.
Interestingly, Ferrari acknowledged this was a known problem and so replaced mine under goodwill. Ferrari Nottingham, who sold the car to me ,said almost exactly the opposite to what Lovett’s told you, especially referencing the Mk1/pre 2009 cars.
Anyway, great cars and I will have another for sure.
Asst Service Manager at Graypaul saying the same thing:Interestingly, Ferrari acknowledged this was a known problem and so replaced mine under goodwill. Ferrari Nottingham, who sold the car to me ,said almost exactly the opposite to what Lovett’s told you, especially referencing the Mk1/pre 2009 cars.
Anyway, great cars and I will have another for sure.
https://www.evo.co.uk/ferrari/f430
It also seems to be inconsistent with warranties/goodwill and so on.
Thought I'd update this thread with, well, not much really. I've found a car (I lie, the car or rather the owner found me) I'd like to have a look at; provenance is sound, colour combo looks good to my eyeses and the owner is an enthusiast so the car is in tiptop condition. Unfortunately, due to this festering fecking virus I can't go and see it and it's driving me nuts. So frustrating.
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