308 mandatory daytime running lights :(

308 mandatory daytime running lights :(

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Araantonak

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121 posts

134 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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So in Switzerland, daytime running lights are now mandatory from 1.1.14 on...

I DON'T want to drive my 308 GTB with it's pop-up headlight during the day though

All daytime running lights I can find for sale are horrible LED-Christmas-light-bars vomit

Fog-lights are NOT legal as daytime running lights redcard

Anyone know of a brand making decent-looking daytime running lights? Ideally with a warmer light = using conventional bulbs that are a) certified ECE-R87 RL and b) would look OK on my 308?

here's a picture of my car for reference:



and here is a 308 with foglights - ideally this is the look I would like to go for - if I can find the correct lights rolleyes



ideas/help appreciated smile

edited for spelling

Edited by Araantonak on Friday 10th January 17:09

Araantonak

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121 posts

134 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Nmj said:
will sidelights switched on not suffice ?
Unfortunately not. banghead

1) they are not EU certified as running lights
2) they are outside the required range of 400 cd to max 1'200 cd

Note that this law is less about logic and more about being able to collect additional fines tongue out

Araantonak

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Friday 10th January 2014
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Scalper said:
but should you get stopped by the police, would they know?
not sure - guess depends on the cop's training - the position lights are tiny and weak on the 308 so it's kinda obvious

However I did have the hope to have at least ONE legal car in my garage tongue out

There's also always the insurance question - If I have an accident and they don't want to pay all they need to do it point out the car war not road legal...

Araantonak

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Friday 10th January 2014
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F355GTS said:
Could you fit a brighter bulb to the sidelights? I did this on my 355 and reckon they might look bright enough, alternatively your 2nd picture is a 308 GTSi, doubt you could source the original lights but it should't be too difficult to create something similar.
I could - I wouldn't be legal though ... they MUST be marked "E" "RL" in the glass to show they are EU homologated and designated as running lights - really frustrating... it's a bunch of red tape

so I would still get a fine, would still not pass the Swiss "MOT" and would still have an "illegal modification" that could cost me my insurance payout in case of an accident.

I'm gonna move back to the US, I swear tongue out

Araantonak

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Sunday 12th January 2014
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ro55a said:
My God! The black car in the background has got a massive aerial too, is this some new and crazy legislation we have not heard about ?
laugh

Araantonak

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121 posts

134 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Thanks for all the helpful answers!!!

I found some nice looking lights in the Hella range and am awaiting confirmation that therese are conform with ECE-R 87



They have halogen bulbs and not LED so mounted on or behind the grille they should look quite nice and more "period" then blue-ish LED strips

Now I hope they are certified for Europe as "RL"

for those who speak German, here is a really good site detailing the rules: Ihr Informationsportal für Tagfahrleuchten