Huracan Evo

[KHK]

MSRP in the US is $260k, almost a $25k increase so good news for HP owners because the HP should hold value.

[BigR]

Sarnie said:

oo7ml said:

I think it looks great. I think it’s also good that the design doesn’t harm the existing Huracan... which still looks great.

As a newbie to Lamborghini, could someone help with the following please?

01 - How do new cars (or facelifts) operate in terms of demand and availability? Can anyone walk in and buy this car, or do they operate similar to Ferrari whereby they offer the car to regular buyers first, and then sell to the ‘normal’ public 1-2 years later?

02 - What is the usual timeframe, from order to delivery on such a car?

03 - When are they expected to arrive on the roads in the UK?

In the current climate, I'm pretty sure if you walk in with £200k, you'd be getting a car in the summer!

I found the dealer to be very happy to take my money! But seriously, this is a facelift so no reason why you can't just order one. With the SVJ which is a limited run model, then you would most likely have to have bought from them previously and even then you're not guaranteed to get one.

Q2 - depends! My Huracan took 6 mths from order to delivery. I've heard of longer and I've heard of shorter. Who knows with the EVO! With the SVJ it was vague, although I understand one or two customers have taken delivery. I'm expecting more than a year, IF I get one.

Q3 - I think the EVO was planned for delivery around mid-19 from what I've read.

[oo7ml]

BigR said:

Sarnie said:

oo7ml said:

I think it looks great. I think it’s also good that the design doesn’t harm the existing Huracan... which still looks great.

As a newbie to Lamborghini, could someone help with the following please?

01 - How do new cars (or facelifts) operate in terms of demand and availability? Can anyone walk in and buy this car, or do they operate similar to Ferrari whereby they offer the car to regular buyers first, and then sell to the ‘normal’ public 1-2 years later?

02 - What is the usual timeframe, from order to delivery on such a car?

03 - When are they expected to arrive on the roads in the UK?

In the current climate, I'm pretty sure if you walk in with £200k, you'd be getting a car in the summer!

I found the dealer to be very happy to take my money! But seriously, this is a facelift so no reason why you can't just order one. With the SVJ which is a limited run model, then you would most likely have to have bought from them previously and even then you're not guaranteed to get one.

Q2 - depends! My Huracan took 6 mths from order to delivery. I've heard of longer and I've heard of shorter. Who knows with the EVO! With the SVJ it was vague, although I understand one or two customers have taken delivery. I'm expecting more than a year, IF I get one.

Q3 - I think the EVO was planned for delivery around mid-19 from what I've read.

Great, thank you for your help... much appreciated.

[Juno]

KHK said:

MSRP in the US is $260k, almost a $25k increase so good news for HP owners because the HP should hold value.

Is not the 640HP a bit of a punch in the face for current Performante owners?

[s2000db]

Juno said:

Is not the 640HP a bit of a punch in the face for current Performante owners?

Not really, as if it is the identical engine, the gasoline particulate filter, will reduce the noise and knock a few hp off the output.

[KHK]

s2000db said:

Not really, as if it is the identical engine, the gasoline particulate filter, will reduce the noise and knock a few hp off the output.

Hence why they had to go with a center exhaust for the EVO. Also the EVO is heavier and does not have any ALA. In fact there's not much new aero on the EVO so I doubt it'll be faster than the HP on the track. We'll probably see ALA 3.0 on the track focused variant of the EVO. And the fact the HP production is now done and had just over a year of production makes the car pretty rare.

[Superleg48]

KHK said:

Hence why they had to go with a center exhaust for the EVO. Also the EVO is heavier and does not have any ALA. In fact there's not much new aero on the EVO so I doubt it'll be faster than the HP on the track. We'll probably see ALA 3.0 on the track focused variant of the EVO. And the fact the HP production is now done and had just over a year of production makes the car pretty rare.

Very rare. 40 odd for sale on AT currently (assuming they are all real cars). That represents about 30% of all Huracans currently for sale. In Lambo terms, they are ten a penny, not rare at all.

[KHK]

Superleg48 said:

Very rare. 40 odd for sale on AT currently (assuming they are all real cars). That represents about 30% of all Huracans currently for sale. In Lambo terms, they are ten a penny, not rare at all.

Look at the bigger picture, not the current marketplace. They'll be around a 170 HP coupes in the UK, some might be exported so that's less than the Speciale , GT3RS and around 50 or so cars more than the current GT2RS. So for a Huracan model it is considered pretty rare seeing how the EVO model will the main H moving forward and they'll produce a ton of them.

[Superleg48]

Understood and in the context you describe, you may be right. All I am saying is right now there are plenty available and values are dropping. Cheapest is at £205k now. Will be sub £200k cars available soon enough. Compare that with 458 Speciales. 23 on AT currently, so fewer numbers than HPs and cheapest at £248k. 488 Pistas will be even rarer. So, i’m afraid for me, based on today’s market, i can’t consider HPs as “rare”.

[KHK]

Superleg48 said:

Understood and in the context you describe, you may be right. All I am saying is right now there are plenty available and values are dropping. Cheapest is at £205k now. Will be sub £200k cars available soon enough. Compare that with 458 Speciales. 23 on AT currently, so fewer numbers than HPs and cheapest at £248k. 488 Pistas will be even rarer. So, i’m afraid for me, based on today’s market, i can’t consider HPs as “rare”.

Unfortunately that's a bigger issue with all Lambo's. They don't hold up very well compared to say Ferrari or Porsche. It boils down to the fact they keep building different variants of the same car whereas the 458 speciale was the last of the 458, the Pista will be the last of the 488 and so fourth. If the HP was the last of the Huracan and they switched to turbos for the new model the values would skyrocket but that didn't happen. Expect Lambo to milk the Huracan platform for a few more years.

That been said the HP prices are holding up pretty well in the US which is actually surprising because that's the first market that sees dips but it's also a good indication that the economy is doing well, in the UK not so much.

[Superleg48]

I would agree. I will always love Lambos though because....well, because they are Lambos. Special marque to me.

[TimSS]

KHK said:

Hence why they had to go with a center exhaust for the EVO. Also the EVO is heavier and does not have any ALA. In fact there's not much new aero on the EVO so I doubt it'll be faster than the HP on the track. We'll probably see ALA 3.0 on the track focused variant of the EVO. And the fact the HP production is now done and had just over a year of production makes the car pretty rare.

Not quite done! I'm still waiting for mine, and it's not due until April! 🙁

[KHK]

TimSS said:

Not quite done! I'm still waiting for mine, and it's not due until April! ??

I'm currently residing in LA and Newport Lamborghini has closed it's book for the HP, they'll be getting one HP coupe and a few HP spyders. They had a demo HP coupe on order but last minute HQ cancelled it.

On the topic of the Evo, there's some confusion and head scratching on the part of dealers. The Evo with a few decent options is coming in higher than a HP coupe. Also Ad Personam paints and other features have gone up, I think the paints have gone up by 15%. For me the Evo pricing makes no sense whatsoever. It's a heavier car, it has no ALA, no forged carbon and is basically a normal Huracan with a bump in power and touchscreen.

[RolyRetro]

TimSS said:

Not quite done! I'm still waiting for mine, and it's not due until April! ??

The order book is closed, production should be winding up soon. My HP Spyder is due on March 20th, I’ve managed to get a factory visit and will see it on the production line

[oo7ml]

KHK said:

TimSS said:

Not quite done! I'm still waiting for mine, and it's not due until April! ??

I'm currently residing in LA and Newport Lamborghini has closed it's book for the HP, they'll be getting one HP coupe and a few HP spyders. They had a demo HP coupe on order but last minute HQ cancelled it.

On the topic of the Evo, there's some confusion and head scratching on the part of dealers. The Evo with a few decent options is coming in higher than a HP coupe. Also Ad Personam paints and other features have gone up, I think the paints have gone up by 15%. For me the Evo pricing makes no sense whatsoever. It's a heavier car, it has no ALA, no forged carbon and is basically a normal Huracan with a bump in power and touchscreen.

Yes, it is confusing. Where does the Evo lie in terms of the range? I presumed it was a facelift of the standard Huracan, however Lamborghini said this morning on Instagram that it is an evolution of the Performante... which would make sense from a pricing point of view but not from a performance point of view.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsisuleFN6h/?utm_sourc...

[KHK]

oo7ml said:

Yes, it is confusing. Where does the Evo lie in terms of the range? I presumed it was a facelift of the standard Huracan, however Lamborghini said this morning on Instagram that it is an evolution of the Performante... which would make sense from a pricing point of view but not from a performance point of view.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsisuleFN6h/?utm_sourc...

It's very bizarre and I was told by a dealer that during dealer meetings last year in Rome HQ had mentioned that the refresh H would have some form of ALA. It doesn't. In fact I don't even know how they can call the Evo a evolution because it's heavier and isn't even a track focused car. The SA I spoke with said they're getting slaughtered with the AV S, they're taking $50k+ off the sticker because of the SVJ but he doesn't see prices dropping on the used HP because the Evo is priced so high.

[oo7ml]

What does the HE start at. I presume there isn’t any pricing available yet?

[topjay]

oo7ml said:

What does the HE start at. I presume there isn’t any pricing available yet?

198K

with delivery , first reg & road fund and tracker its £206,500 without any options though

With basic options, metallic paint, lifter, style pack, better wheels, glass engine cover its at least +25k.


I think it looks nice, decider is if its a fun exciting car to drive then it will be a good car, if its boring like the Huracan was then its dead to me!

Its a road focused car with with what they have learned from performante but without the high speed aero as you probably are not going to be cornering at 150+ on the road, a bit like a 911 turbo and GT3 rs difference.

[oo7ml]

Thanks Superleg.

Hard to know what to do.

[s2000db]

Simple, buy a Performante..

It’ll be a far better buy in the long run.