Huracan help - 1st time buyer - owner advice please

[tigertiger12]

On the hrowen website it talks about servicing costs after 4 years?? It gives pricing but says nothing about service costs for a vehicle under 4 yrs old.

Here are two ads I found, so it seems there are different packages maybe, one here says 4yrs service pack £5k the other says 4 yrs warranty and maintenance. I'm a little confused whether these are the same thing or one has services included and the other just the warranty?

[Steven944]

I think all Huracans from 2020 model year (not 100% sure when it was introduced) now come with 4 years' maintenance pack included as well as the 4 year warranty. Presumably it's to almost align with Ferrari and the 7 years' servicing they have with new cars.

Edited by Steven944 on Friday 19th February 10:43

[tigertiger12]

Steven944 said:

I think all Huracans from 2020 model year (not 100% sure when it was introduced) now come with 4 years' maintenance pack included as well as the 4 year warranty. Presumably it's to almost align with Ferrari and the 7 years' servicing they have with new cars.

Edited by Steven944 on Friday 19th February 10:43

Thanks Steven944, you're a superstar! Table is very helpful. I do think it's great they have done this, just a shame it is only from 2020 vehicles.
Makes it a little harder for me as initially the point was to buy a 'cheap' supercar and it's getting more expensive. However lambo's do hold their value extremely well. Also I much prefer the 2020 model with the TFT display in the centre console. You can also connect this to your cellphone and mirror your phone apps, google maps etc. I can afford to stretch to £200k but this will also affect how much money I can make moving on. Not sure if I should see what happens over the next few months and aim to pick one up for around £125 - £135k or wait a year or two, use the money to make more and get a 2020 with a year or so left on the warranty and maintenance and get this extended by a year. The other option is a 911 Turbo S which I can pick up for £100k then try to get into a Lambo in 2/3 years. Porsche are just built to last, but I have had a few, but always wanted a Turbo.

Well for now i'll see how it goes over the next few months. I do wonder if the 5th year servicing will be a big one! I know it's paying for items up front but if the original purchaser is buying on finance it spreads the cost. I will then be paying upfront but at least I get peace of mind and dont have to think too much about getting a big bill.

Thanks for the table, great information.

[Shnozz]

tigertiger12 said:

Thanks Steven944, you're a superstar! Table is very helpful. I do think it's great they have done this, just a shame it is only from 2020 vehicles.
Makes it a little harder for me as initially the point was to buy a 'cheap' supercar and it's getting more expensive. However lambo's do hold their value extremely well. Also I much prefer the 2020 model with the TFT display in the centre console. You can also connect this to your cellphone and mirror your phone apps, google maps etc. I can afford to stretch to £200k but this will also affect how much money I can make moving on. Not sure if I should see what happens over the next few months and aim to pick one up for around £125 - £135k or wait a year or two, use the money to make more and get a 2020 with a year or so left on the warranty and maintenance and get this extended by a year. The other option is a 911 Turbo S which I can pick up for £100k then try to get into a Lambo in 2/3 years. Porsche are just built to last, but I have had a few, but always wanted a Turbo.

Well for now i'll see how it goes over the next few months. I do wonder if the 5th year servicing will be a big one! I know it's paying for items up front but if the original purchaser is buying on finance it spreads the cost. I will then be paying upfront but at least I get peace of mind and dont have to think too much about getting a big bill.

Thanks for the table, great information.

RWD Evo Hurrican starts around £165k. Summer delivery. Get it bought.

[tigertiger12]

Shnozz said:

RWD Evo Hurrican starts around £165k. Summer delivery. Get it bought.

I wish it was that simple, I wouldn't buy the 2WD so starting is around £180 / £185k, with options £210 - £225k and that's being extremely conservative. I've never bought a brand new car, only the tesla but that's not available second hand and price in terms of spec and speed makes it very cheap, also i'd really like to change the order to the founders edition when production starts. Tesla want £190k for the founders edition on reservation and only £38k for the standard roadster, so I ordered / reserved the standard model and when they call for the rest for production I hope to change it for the founders edition if it's still available as they are only making 1000.
Back to the huracan, if I spend £200k now i'll be stuck making more going forward.
I'd like to avoid MY 2014 and 2015, the 2016's are holding their value well at over £140k, there is 1 at £128k but is a 5 owner vehicle.
2015 is ideal but usually the first 2 MY's of a car tend to have issues which are changed. I believe with the huracan it's the LDS which was an issue and changed for the 2016 MY.

I'll see how it goes for the next few months, There is a nice 2015 in white for private sale, 1 owner, not many options at all which reflects the price being £115k. It has been available for a while now.
I'm more looking to see if lockdown restrictions are relaxed, if this leads to more cars being available and maybe reducing prices slightly. I have to admit these cars do hold their value much more than Mac's which is a great advantage. But if I buy a cheap one I will have the same problem trying to sell it. I'm looking at around £135k - £155k for a huracan with good spec, not great but good enough to be easier to sell. Maybe a 911 Turbo S at £100 - £110k which also gives me room to make more money moving on and usually cheap to drive and maintain. The 911 being a lambo killer, just not as striking in the looks department.

I'll take some time and see how things go, in a few months I could be in a better position. If I buy now, I cannot drive it much in any case which is probably the biggest problem.

[Superleg48]

I have never heard the 911 described as a Lambo Killer? On what basis?

A Turbo S (unmodified) would struggle to “Kill” a LP610-4 let alone say a LP640-4 Perf/Evo and that’s before we get on to the Aventador....

[tigertiger12]

Superleg48 said:

I have never heard the 911 described as a Lambo Killer? On what basis?

A Turbo S (unmodified) would struggle to “Kill” a LP610-4 let alone say a LP640-4 Perf/Evo and that’s before we get on to the Aventador....

I got it from Mat Watson carwow, there are a few videos with drag races with the 911 Turbo S against the huracan performante and even the aventador SVJ and it beat both. SVJ has a higher top speed though and i'd much rather the aventador than the turbo s especially with those lambo doors. However I'm not in the price range for an aventador but it is quicker and has a higher top speed than the performante and still beat the SVJ in a 1/4 mile drag race. Not bad for a car with much more space inside, even though the rear seats are only for small people, the space is very handy to have.

I do think Porsche should make a 2 door car with a 4.0 litre twin turbo engine and much sharper lines and sell it for £200k. If it wasn't for the lambo's history and amazing body, i'd take the Porsche. Reliability with Porsche is silly, maintenance costs are also quite low for such a car.

Please check out the videos on youtube and the 0-60mph and top speed specs, they are better on the 911 Turbo S than the huracan, even the Performante. It also beats the Mac 720S, in fact it beats most cars and holds the 1/4 mile record on carwow for an unmodified car, the 2016 MY isn't far behind the 2020, both are very similar times, not bad for a 3.7 litre 6 cylinder car.

[tigertiger12]

Looking at a Huracan on autotrader and would like your expert help. Car is 2015 grey just short of £130k. Betterthanpartex.co.uk, has a private plate which makes me think it is the owners car as I believe his name is Shane from what I read on trustpilot. Pictures indicate car has 23k miles not 20k as advert states. Options list and costs on website and larger pictures than I can upload here, which maybe helpful to see the badge better.

1. vehicle has TEB but no carbon as picture, this is the first time I have seen this usually they both go hand in hand. are these 2 options? vehicle comes with 12 months lambo warranty. I first thought maybe it was delivered with slats then upgraded to TEB only but as car has lambo warranty I must be wrong.



2. Vehicle has full PPF but I can see what looks like damage to the 640-4 badge. Is this ok? Or does it look like there could have been damage to the door and the old badge was put back on instead of a new one to save money as the badge may be a couple to few hundred £'s, not sure of cost just a wild guess. Is there another explanation and i'm looking into this too much?



3. Is the vehcile lift and magneto rheological suspension . The ad states the lift system on this car was a £2628.00 option, would this be the cost just for the lift system and the magnet rheological suspension is extra?

4. On website it shows the options list. It shows front and read parking sensors at £1572 and next options shows front and rear parking sensors with rear parking camera at £2940. Is this correct? Meaning the parking sensors are £1572 and the addition of the rear camera is £2940? or should it be £2940 for both options?

thank you in advance.

Edited by tigertiger12 on Monday 8th March 13:48

Edited by tigertiger12 on Monday 8th March 13:49

[Superleg48]

The “damage” to the LP badge is at the leading edge of the badge and will simply be road rash. It is low down and susceptible to it.

On the carbon dressing for the engine bay, this would be an extended Carbon option and separate to specifying a TEB.

I am pretty sure that MR suspension and Lift go hand in hand.

The sensors option and sensors with camera option are two different things. So the 2940 will be sensors and camera. If it is listed twice, it is a mistake.

[tigertiger12]

Superleg48 said:

The “damage” to the LP badge is at the leading edge of the badge and will simply be road rash. It is low down and susceptible to it.

On the carbon dressing for the engine bay, this would be an extended Carbon option and separate to specifying a TEB.

I am pretty sure that MR suspension and Lift go hand in hand.

The sensors option and sensors with camera option are two different things. So the 2940 will be sensors and camera. If it is listed twice, it is a mistake.

Perfect, thanks for your input, makes sense.
The only thing I was fairly sure of was the front lift and the magneto suspension going together but thought it may have cost more than £2628.00 and both are must haves.

I'm learning a fair bit about the huracan. Thank you very much for your reply.

[LeroyLooser]

tigertiger12 said:

Gameface said:

I've had 2 Gallardo spyders, a Huracan Performante Spyder and an Aventador.

Not had a single issue with any of them.

My previous Ferraris on the other hand...

another plus. Thanks
Go fund me link coming soon!

Good to hear.. what are your thoughts between the Hurscan and Aventador? worth the extra?

I’m in a similar position to op but musing between Murci, Huracan & Aventador

[Superleg48]

LeroyLooser said:

Good to hear.. what are your thoughts between the Hurscan and Aventador? worth the extra?

I’m in a similar position to op but musing between Murci, Huracan & Aventador

The V12 cars are in a different league entirely. They are very special cars, but also significantly more expensive in every way to the V10s, from purchase cost, insurance cost, running costs, servicing costs and repair costs. You do need a different level of budget.

Also, the V12s are physically bigger cars and as such less suited to British A and B road blasts. They are not really practical to use regularly or as daily cars, whereas the Huracan can be used as a daily car all day long. Incredibly reliable cars especially that they are Italian.

However, the V12s take your heart in a way no another car can.

[tigertiger12]

LeroyLooser said:

Good to hear.. what are your thoughts between the Hurscan and Aventador? worth the extra?

I’m in a similar position to op but musing between Murci, Huracan & Aventador

Superleg48 is right, the Aventador is a different level of everything. I see 2011 / 2012 Aventadors are around £150k but the Huracan around £115k for a 2014 / £125k for a 2015. I need to use it as a daily driver and appreciate as much space inside as possible with as small an exterior as possible. My wife would struggle with driving an Aventador while I willl struggle with everything else such as servicing and maintainence! Also if something goes wrong it could be a long wait. Then 5.2 V 6.5 so adds another little car to the fuel. So sadly not for me at the moment but amazingly beautiful cars. If you can take the increase in costs then go for it.

Enquired about this Huracan and it was a 4 owner car so this was the reason for the price, I would be the 5th then 6th to whom I sell it on to which may happen in a couple of years depending on how my fianances go in the next couple of years, so i'd rather a 2 owner car max.
In any case I've waited since I was a child so a few more months wont hurt. I'll keep checking and live in the hope prices may come down £5 or £10k when covid restrictions are relaxed which may happen over the next few months also.

[LeroyLooser]

Superleg48 said:

The V12 cars are in a different league entirely. They are very special cars, but also significantly more expensive in every way to the V10s, from purchase cost, insurance cost, running costs, servicing costs and repair costs. You do need a different level of budget.

Also, the V12s are physically bigger cars and as such less suited to British A and B road blasts. They are not really practical to use regularly or as daily cars, whereas the Huracan can be used as a daily car all day long. Incredibly reliable cars especially that they are Italian.

However, the V12s take your heart in a way no another car can.

tigertiger12 said:

Superleg48 is right, the Aventador is a different level of everything. I see 2011 / 2012 Aventadors are around £150k but the Huracan around £115k for a 2014 / £125k for a 2015. I need to use it as a daily driver and appreciate as much space inside as possible with as small an exterior as possible. My wife would struggle with driving an Aventador while I willl struggle with everything else such as servicing and maintainence! Also if something goes wrong it could be a long wait. Then 5.2 V 6.5 so adds another little car to the fuel. So sadly not for me at the moment but amazingly beautiful cars. If you can take the increase in costs then go for it.

Enquired about this Huracan and it was a 4 owner car so this was the reason for the price, I would be the 5th then 6th to whom I sell it on to which may happen in a couple of years depending on how my fianances go in the next couple of years, so i'd rather a 2 owner car max.
In any case I've waited since I was a child so a few more months wont hurt. I'll keep checking and live in the hope prices may come down £5 or £10k when covid restrictions are relaxed which may happen over the next few months also.

Thanks guys, it wouldn't be a daily but i would want it to be reliable when i do use it & that usage would be for intended purpose, so some good long hard road trips with some track excursions thrown in, i take it the Aventador would stand this treatment better than the Murci?

I mention the Murci because i absolutely adore its fat styling as opposed to the knife edge styling of the Aventador, still love the AV but i’m a bit older, i love the diablo even more but i know i couldnt live with its reliability.

I’ll have drive of both as that might make it a no brainer anyway but your in[ut is much appreciated

(Sorry to derail op)

[zedmtrappe]

LeroyLooser said:

i love the diablo even more but i know i couldn't live with its reliability.

??

I had a Diablo for 10 years and it was one of the most reliable cars I've ever owned!

And for sure that was not a one-off or fluke.

Don't let reliability doubts get in the way of buying a Diablo.

All things being equal ( ie: you don't get super unlucky and acquire a complete turkey*) Diablo will be your cheapest option maintenance-wise over AV... probably on a par with manual Murci.

[LeroyLooser]

zedmtrappe said:

LeroyLooser said:

i love the diablo even more but i know i couldn't live with its reliability.

??

I had a Diablo for 10 years and it was one of the most reliable cars I've ever owned!

And for sure that was not a one-off or fluke.

Don't let reliability doubts get in the way of buying a Diablo.

All things being equal ( ie: you don't get super unlucky and acquire a complete turkey*) Diablo will be your cheapest option maintenance-wise over AV... probably on a par with manual Murci.

I must admit that i had just assumed it wasnt, for two reasons, first being.. I drove one in my teens at an experience day and over the period of a day it broke 3 times (still loved it though) and secondly its pre audi ownership/build quality.

I believe (without looking) that the early Murci was the first joint effort between audi and lambo no? and it was said (at the time) to be a big step forward in quality, i guess thats not to say the diablo was unreliable but most likely wasnt of the same quality finish.

I think using a Diablo in anger at a track is more likely to result in failure, dont you think? I know the track isn’t really the V12s party trick but i would like to play once in a while and when i do.. id like to push it hard and at least get back to the hotel.

[Superleg48]

LeroyLooser said:

I must admit that i had just assumed it wasnt, for two reasons, first being.. I drove one in my teens at an experience day and over the period of a day it broke 3 times (still loved it though) and secondly its pre audi ownership/build quality.

I believe (without looking) that the early Murci was the first joint effort between audi and lambo no? and it was said (at the time) to be a big step forward in quality, i guess thats not to say the diablo was unreliable but most likely wasnt of the same quality finish.

I think using a Diablo in anger at a track is more likely to result in failure, dont you think? I know the track isn’t really the V12s party trick but i would like to play once in a while and when i do.. id like to push it hard and at least get back to the hotel.

For the reasons you stated above you really are better off buying a Huracan. It is far and away the best all rounder. If you want to stretch the budget a little get the LP640-4 Performante Huracan. That will thrill on the track and be an awesome road trip, A/B Road blaster and be super reliable and more affordable running costs relatively speaking.

[LeroyLooser]

Superleg48 said:

LeroyLooser said:

I must admit that i had just assumed it wasnt, for two reasons, first being.. I drove one in my teens at an experience day and over the period of a day it broke 3 times (still loved it though) and secondly its pre audi ownership/build quality.

I believe (without looking) that the early Murci was the first joint effort between audi and lambo no? and it was said (at the time) to be a big step forward in quality, i guess thats not to say the diablo was unreliable but most likely wasnt of the same quality finish.

I think using a Diablo in anger at a track is more likely to result in failure, dont you think? I know the track isn’t really the V12s party trick but i would like to play once in a while and when i do.. id like to push it hard and at least get back to the hotel.

For the reasons you stated above you really are better off buying a Huracan. It is far and away the best all rounder. If you want to stretch the budget a little get the LP640-4 Performante Huracan. That will thrill on the track and be an awesome road trip, A/B Road blaster and be super reliable and more affordable running costs relatively speaking.

Not so sure, money doesnt come into it (hence why i didnt mention budget) & i dont want an all rounder as i have other cars for that, i want something very special that’ll take a track day on the odd occasion, running costs are irrelevant but service frequency is important, it really is more about reliability & convenience, ive driven loads of big, awkward & cumbersome vehicles so the V12s size is neither here nor there for me.

My mind is, if you’re going to do the Lamborghini dream then do it big, i dont want its little brother, as said, the Murci i’m really drawn to over the AV but it needs to be as hassle free which i’m not sure it would be due to its age.

Ive never had a car with a V12 engine, loads of V8s and a couple of V10s & a current W12, so i think i’m answering my own question..

[Superleg48]

LeroyLooser said:

Not so sure, money doesnt come into it (hence why i didnt mention budget) & i dont want an all rounder as i have other cars for that, i want something very special that’ll take a track day on the odd occasion, running costs are irrelevant but service frequency is important, it really is more about reliability & convenience, ive driven loads of big, awkward & cumbersome vehicles so the V12s size is neither here nor there for me.

My mind is, if you’re going to do the Lamborghini dream then do it big, i dont want its little brother, as said, the Murci i’m really drawn to over the AV but it needs to be as hassle free which i’m not sure it would be due to its age.

Ive never had a car with a V12 engine, loads of V8s and a couple of V10s & a current W12, so i think i’m answering my own question..

So, you are now dismissing the V10 altogether? Ok, then if I were you, I would go for a an Aventador SV.

[zedmtrappe]

LeroyLooser said:

I think using a Diablo in anger at a track is more likely to result in failure, dont you think? I know the track isn’t really the V12s party trick but i would like to play once in a while and when i do.. id like to push it hard and at least get back to the hotel.

Yep... did a few track days - twice at Spa & Le Mans Bugatti .

Was brilliant fun but as you say it certainly was not the cars forte.

Braking was the main weak point, one hottish lap of spa and brake fade was horrendous ( that was with upgraded pads & braided hoses)

( a spin at La Source was also a stark reminder about how quick these cars can get away from you with no warning & no chance of recovery..!)

Murci might be better in that regard if you get an AWD version.

What I am saying is: if the Diablo is your ultimate dream, then so far you have not offered up enough evidence to dismiss it in my opinion!