which Skin?

Poll: which Skin?

Total Members Polled: 429

PH Classic: 75%
Big Blue: 15%
GTI: 10%
Author
Discussion

addz86

1,443 posts

187 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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fking awful.

I don't know if I've suddenly turned dyslexic or it's just a st job but I can't concentrate enough to read properly, I find myself just skimming.

B'stard Child

28,495 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Hilts said:
DamienB said:
B'stard Child said:
Can I suggest specsavers?
Eh? Colours, fonts, sizes, graphics, all exactly the same on each screenshot. The only difference - and I had to put the shots next to each other to see that - was in some spacing and one header line missing.
I'm with DamienB on this one. They're all pretty similar. Maybe I've just not been on here long enough.
Classic is very subtle in colours and tones

Big blue and GTI - they are just too much blue - too little contrast and not sharp screen shots don't actually show how big the difference is

Hilts said:
Very OT I think I really do need glasses, finding very small type hard to read. Are specsavers any good or is it just the catchphrase?
been using them since my request to the NHS to make my arms longer was turned down HTH

OldGermanHeaps

3,858 posts

179 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Baskey said:
Safari on an iPhone

Thanks
Hold refresh for a few seconds then when the menu pops up select request desktop site.

SS2.

14,485 posts

239 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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The differences might be subtle, but this skin is utter turd.

FFS - it wasn't broke, why try and fix it ?

glenrobbo

35,440 posts

151 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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hidetheelephants said:
B'stard Child said:
hidetheelephants said:
pinchmeimdreamin said:
Only for now they are turning that option off soon.
If soon is the same 'soon' currently applied to https then no-one has much to worry about.
rofl

Ooops
Mea culpa; I failed to reckon upon their baleful ability to fk things up quickly; it's making things better that takes eons and progresses glacially never happens. Seriously, what was the fking point of telling us about skin choice when that choice was going to apply for a few days?

Hello PH minions, let me introduce you to the concept of managing expectations; what you've just done is a really good example of how not to do it.

Oh yes, while I'm here I still think GTI sucks the sweat from a dead dog's dripping balls. This retrograde step will dissuade me from wasting as much of my life on here, which broadly speaking is a good thing.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Wednesday 5th April 18:09
Well, they have certainly ballsed it up good and proper now haven't they? furious

Oh dear what have they done? frown
This is absolutely bloody awful.

As HidetheElephants says, from now on, I shall be spending my time on good stuff instead of posting on here all the time.

Goodbye everyone and thanks for all the fish! wavey

glenrobbo

35,440 posts

151 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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hidetheelephants said:
B'stard Child said:
hidetheelephants said:
pinchmeimdreamin said:
Only for now they are turning that option off soon.
If soon is the same 'soon' currently applied to https then no-one has much to worry about.
rofl

Ooops
Mea culpa; I failed to reckon upon their baleful ability to fk things up quickly; it's making things better that takes eons and progresses glacially never happens. Seriously, what was the fking point of telling us about skin choice when that choice was going to apply for a few days?

Hello PH minions, let me introduce you to the concept of managing expectations; what you've just done is a really good example of how not to do it.

Oh yes, while I'm here I still think GTI sucks the sweat from a dead dog's dripping balls. This retrograde step will dissuade me from wasting as much of my life on here, which broadly speaking is a good thing.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Wednesday 5th April 18:09
Well, they have certainly ballsed it up good and proper now haven't they? furious

Oh dear what have they done? frown
This is absolutely bloody awful.

As HidetheElephants says, from now on, I shall be spending my time on good stuff instead of posting on here all the time.

Goodbye everyone and thanks for all the fish! wavey

B'stard Child

28,495 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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glenrobbo said:
Well, they have certainly ballsed it up good and proper now haven't they? furious

Oh dear what have they done? frown
This is absolutely bloody awful.

As HidetheElephants says, from now on, I shall be spending my time on good stuff instead of posting on here all the time.

Goodbye everyone and thanks for all the fish! wavey
glenrobbo said:
Well, they have certainly ballsed it up good and proper now haven't they? furious

Oh dear what have they done? frown
This is absolutely bloody awful.

As HidetheElephants says, from now on, I shall be spending my time on good stuff instead of posting on here all the time.

Goodbye everyone and thanks for all the fish! wavey
If you are gonna flounce out can you do it just once

PS at least explain the fish thing before you go

Rich1973

1,202 posts

178 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Hating the forum look now. Bloody awful.

Silenoz

865 posts

154 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Rich1973 said:
Hating the forum look now. Bloody awful.
+1!

How is this better? It's fking awful. Just change it back you fktards. If you can't even work out that light blue on light blue is unreadable, what actual testing was done?


Edited by Silenoz on Wednesday 5th April 22:50

Vyse

1,224 posts

125 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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fk off, bring big blue back.

Silenoz

865 posts

154 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Vyse said:
fk off, bring big blue back.
How many times/users need to post this to get the message through???!!!!

B'stard Child

28,495 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Silenoz said:
Vyse said:
fk off, bring big blue back.
How many times/users need to post this to get the message through???!!!!
It could be a million and it still wouldn't be enough

only 0.2% of the forum users who logged in and found the skin had changed to GTI actually changed it back to either Big blue or Classic

So it's pretty clear that those using classic or big blue are in a very small minority

The Poll also confirms that - 380 votes for the classic option really gives you a scale of the problem (ie it's not)

eharding

13,803 posts

285 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Rich1973 said:
Hating the forum look now. Bloody awful.
This. In spades.

The GTI theme was put in place as reminder to log in, and make it go away. If any of the current devs had been around here for longer than the average life expectancy of a mayfly, they would know that.

Truth is, if you now have Haymarket/Pistonheads on your techie CV in early 2017, you'll be lucky in future to get a job writing Perl scripts to scrape guano off the runway at Ascension Island.

Because we *will* remember.




Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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B'stard Child said:
It could be a million and it still wouldn't be enough

only 0.2% of the forum users who logged in and found the skin had changed to GTI actually changed it back to either Big blue or Classic

So it's pretty clear that those using classic or big blue are in a very small minority

The Poll also confirms that - 380 votes for the classic option really gives you a scale of the problem (ie it's not)
Assuming you even believe the statistics, it still needs some bounding like:

- How was the 0.2% calculated
- No. of active users in the time period
- No. of active users who posted something
- What percentage of recent content are the 'vocal minority' responsible for?

Given the way the same couple of hundred posters seem to generate most of the content (or even the same few tens in some places) upsetting that particularly minority can do a disproportionate amount of damage.

It doesn't take much to kill the core user base and with them lose the vast crowd of casual browsers.


djdest

6,542 posts

179 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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I did (note: did no longer do!) browse PH on my phone a lot, but I've given up now.
It's like going back to WAP sites in 2001 or something!

B'stard Child

28,495 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Jonesy23 said:
B'stard Child said:
It could be a million and it still wouldn't be enough

only 0.2% of the forum users who logged in and found the skin had changed to GTI actually changed it back to either Big blue or Classic

So it's pretty clear that those using classic or big blue are in a very small minority

The Poll also confirms that - 380 votes for the classic option really gives you a scale of the problem (ie it's not)
Assuming you even believe the statistics, it still needs some bounding like:

- How was the 0.2% calculated
- No. of active users in the time period
- No. of active users who posted something
- What percentage of recent content are the 'vocal minority' responsible for?
I agree - I'm not change adverse and data driven - I'd love to know the real numbers behind the 0.2%

Jonesy23 said:
Given the way the same couple of hundred posters seem to generate most of the content (or even the same few tens in some places) upsetting that particularly minority can do a disproportionate amount of damage.

It doesn't take much to kill the core user base and with them lose the vast crowd of casual browsers.
Do they really care if a few hundred die hard PH forum users feck off somewhere else??

Is the forum really the draw for many users??

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Well the advert site is unrelated so probably couldn't care less.

The front page news bit is such a token effort I doubt the world even notices it most of the time, there are a hundred other sites with more on them, including a few from Haymarket.

Not sure there's anything else? Core ultimately is the forum with a big advert site glued on the side.

B'stard Child

28,495 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Jonesy23 said:
Well the advert site is unrelated so probably couldn't care less.
They have an advert site?

Jonesy23 said:
The front page news bit is such a token effort I doubt the world even notices it most of the time, there are a hundred other sites with more on them, including a few from Haymarket.
Because we don't visit it - you are talking like a forum user

Jonesy23 said:
Not sure there's anything else? Core ultimately is the forum with a big advert site glued on the side.
The stats for the site are mind blowing - yet if a Poll in GG gets a lot of votes and hits 1,000 votes it's a freaking miracle

You only think the forum users are what's important because it is to you


eharding

13,803 posts

285 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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B'stard Child said:
The stats for the site are mind blowing
Whisper it....93.8% of those hits are Chinese robots trying to hack the site?

You have checked that....surely?

B'stard Child

28,495 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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eharding said:
B'stard Child said:
The stats for the site are mind blowing
Whisper it....93.8% of those hits are Chinese robots trying to hack the site?

You have checked that....surely?
Of course they have................

PS congrats on the double ton