Abusive Trolls and Bigots

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

Gavia said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Again, flipping it on its head. It CAN be a factor, troll the wrong person and they may not react well. It is just one factor, I have at no point suggested that disagreement must go hand in hand with it.

Fair enough, I promised the lad who needs to do his college work that I wouldn’t post on the topic again.

We're leave it there then on good terms.

Back on subject. What, if any rules are there (and where to be read) on how members should conduct themselves with others on PH?

[Pothole]

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

rallycross said:

4x4Tyke said:

How long are the mods going to allow abusive trolls and bigots to run riot?

They infested NP&E long ago and are now branching out into other sections with their harassment of the posters prepared to stand up to them.

Trolling, abuse and off-topic posts are supposed to be against the rules.

Edited by 4x4Tyke on Thursday 19th October 21:52

You sound like an idiot.

A point in case. You don't know this person, never interacted with them, yet your opening reply is a baseless insult. Please feel free to fk off.

You mean a case in point. They've expressed an opinion. You've been more insulting. How does that help?

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

Pothole said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

rallycross said:

4x4Tyke said:

How long are the mods going to allow abusive trolls and bigots to run riot?

They infested NP&E long ago and are now branching out into other sections with their harassment of the posters prepared to stand up to them.

Trolling, abuse and off-topic posts are supposed to be against the rules.

Edited by 4x4Tyke on Thursday 19th October 21:52

You sound like an idiot.

A point in case. You don't know this person, never interacted with them, yet your opening reply is a baseless insult. Please feel free to fk off.

You mean a case in point. They've expressed an opinion. You've been more insulting. How does that help?

That's the one. Indeed, it's fair to say it doesn't, and I should have refrained from saying that.

[Smiler.]

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Pothole said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

rallycross said:

4x4Tyke said:

How long are the mods going to allow abusive trolls and bigots to run riot?

They infested NP&E long ago and are now branching out into other sections with their harassment of the posters prepared to stand up to them.

Trolling, abuse and off-topic posts are supposed to be against the rules.

Edited by 4x4Tyke on Thursday 19th October 21:52

You sound like an idiot.

A point in case. You don't know this person, never interacted with them, yet your opening reply is a baseless insult. Please feel free to fk off.

You mean a case in point. They've expressed an opinion. You've been more insulting. How does that help?

That's the one. Indeed, it's fair to say it doesn't, and I should have refrained from saying that.

Right, to the naughty step then.

Off you fk!

[Tankrizzo]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Some of them are an absolute joke as well, entirely subjective to the moderator/person who reads it. But I guess that's another topic for the Website Feedback forum.

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

Never read them before, most are common sense. One which is silly is to not post links to news pieces, that happens all day every day on here! Sorry, OT.

[JonChalk]

Here's an idea....., it's a little left-field / radical.......

Close the non-technical / non-car-related forum sections.

There said it.

1. Fewer vitriol-based threads means proper moderation of the remaining ones.
2. The trolls / abusers will stand out more by trying to bring their approach to life into a discussion on the comparative merits of the 89 vs 90 Fiesta front bumper.
3. When they do, it will clearly be off-topic.
4. PH returns to a car-themed forum.

Ta-da.

Who said rose-tinted, nostalgia-based, living in the past was a bad thing ;-)

[Monkeylegend]

JonChalk said:

Here's an idea....., it's a little left-field / radical.......

Close the non-technical / non-car-related forum sections.

There said it.

1. Fewer vitriol-based threads means proper moderation of the remaining ones.
2. The trolls / abusers will stand out more by trying to bring their approach to life into a discussion on the comparative merits of the 89 vs 90 Fiesta front bumper.
3. When they do, it will clearly be off-topic.
4. PH returns to a car-themed forum.

Ta-da.

Who said rose-tinted, nostalgia-based, living in the past was a bad thing ;-)

That won't work. Somebody will post about a hired Ferrari being driven by a white person crashing into a house at a wedding and somebody will call them a racist

The poster not the driver.

[B'stard Child]

Gavia said:

WinstonWolf said:

Gavia said:

Funkycoldribena said:

But there is rarely any racism, you might think there is,but there isn't.
Your definition is not one recognised by people in general.

You consistently post this without clarifying it. It’s clear that you’re claiming that Islam isn’t a race and therefore you can’t be racist by insulting them.

You might not recognise it as racism, many people do and most importantly the law of the land recognises it as such.

Criticising a religion isn't racist. I'm just as happy to see Christianity getting a kicking as I am any other religion. Criticising religion is a sure sign of sanity.

Insulting a whole religion based on prejudice is fundamentally racist. It is that simple. Hiding behind why you see as loopholes isn’t going to work.

However, if you believe it is acceptable then why not say it explicitly instead of hiding behind inference.

Insulting a whole religion based on prejudice is fundamentally racist

All religions are fundamentally nuts - all based on different fairy stories - is that insulting or racist?

[B'stard Child]

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Never read them before, most are common sense. One which is silly is to not post links to news pieces, that happens all day every day on here! Sorry, OT.

Remaining OT

It doesn't say that

It says

10. Do not post links to sites that supply illegal download material.

11. Do not copy and paste articles from newspapers or news sites. This is a breach of their copyright and any such threads will be deleted.

11 is clarified by a sticky at the top of the forum

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

it specifically asks PH'rs to post links

[drainbrain]

B'stard Child said:

All religions are fundamentally nuts - all based on different fairy stories - is that insulting or racist?

I say old chap! That's a bit of a sweeping statement is it not?

[gareth h]

drainbrain said:

B'stard Child said:

All religions are fundamentally nuts - all based on different fairy stories - is that insulting or racist?

I say old chap! That's a bit of a sweeping statement is it not?

Actually most based on the same fairy tale!

[B'stard Child]

drainbrain said:

B'stard Child said:

All religions are fundamentally nuts - all based on different fairy stories - is that insulting or racist?

I say old chap! That's a bit of a sweeping statement is it not?

It's an opinion I hold, it breaks no laws and I wasn't offensive.

If you believe in fairy stories of whichever brand then you might be offended

[B'stard Child]

gareth h said:

drainbrain said:

B'stard Child said:

All religions are fundamentally nuts - all based on different fairy stories - is that insulting or racist?

I say old chap! That's a bit of a sweeping statement is it not?

Actually most based on the same fairy tale!

But the differences in interpretation of the fairy stories have led to many wars over the years and continue to cause divisions in countries around the world

Hence why I think all religions are nuts.....

[Tankrizzo]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

lol apart from if you use VB.net

I just threw up a little bit in my mouth saying that

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

B'stard Child said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Never read them before, most are common sense. One which is silly is to not post links to news pieces, that happens all day every day on here! Sorry, OT.

Remaining OT

It doesn't say that

It says

10. Do not post links to sites that supply illegal download material.

11. Do not copy and paste articles from newspapers or news sites. This is a breach of their copyright and any such threads will be deleted.

11 is clarified by a sticky at the top of the forum

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

it specifically asks PH'rs to post links

Ah, OK. I do have a bad habit of skim reading, seeing the content, but not the detail. Makes me think about my subscription to CAR, I've read it cover to cover within about an hour!

[B'stard Child]

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

B'stard Child said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Never read them before, most are common sense. One which is silly is to not post links to news pieces, that happens all day every day on here! Sorry, OT.

Remaining OT

It doesn't say that

It says

10. Do not post links to sites that supply illegal download material.

11. Do not copy and paste articles from newspapers or news sites. This is a breach of their copyright and any such threads will be deleted.

11 is clarified by a sticky at the top of the forum

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

it specifically asks PH'rs to post links

Ah, OK. I do have a bad habit of skim reading, seeing the content, but not the detail. Makes me think about my subscription to CAR, I've read it cover to cover within about an hour!

That's OK when I read your post I thought that's not what they say so I had to check - I also skim read but re-read if I am unsure especially if responding to a post as I prefer to avoid parrots

[limpsfield]

JonChalk said:

Here's an idea....., it's a little left-field / radical.......

Close the non-technical / non-car-related forum sections.

There said it.

1. Fewer vitriol-based threads means proper moderation of the remaining ones.
2. The trolls / abusers will stand out more by trying to bring their approach to life into a discussion on the comparative merits of the 89 vs 90 Fiesta front bumper.
3. When they do, it will clearly be off-topic.
4. PH returns to a car-themed forum.

Ta-da.

Who said rose-tinted, nostalgia-based, living in the past was a bad thing ;-)

It would be a terrible business decision. PH is mumsnet for blokes. Imagine the traffic drop if it was just cars.

It does need better moderation though. Although, the same old tiresome, racist, sexist drivel from the same old tiresome racists and sexists does keep me, and I am sure others. coming back.

Apropos of nothing - whatever happened to don4l? I used to read every thread that crazy fker posted in.

Edited by limpsfield on Friday 20th October 20:55

[FredClogs]

It's about time we had a thread about this thread isn't it?

[limpsfield]

FredClogs said:

It's about time we had a thread about this thread isn't it?

We should sneak a cringe thread back in