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RedBull said:
Well, what a great piece of advice this turned out to be. Not only has Mike sorted me a set of P-Zero tyres he's also provided advice on CV boot replacement and given me a contact to get the boots at a fraction of the price asked by official parts suppliers. He is extremely helpful and I will definitely use him to health check my car when I decide to sell (I fancy an Aventador some time in the future).
Good news. Win win all around! rat rod said:
The last Koenig Boxer went for around £125K plus commission which was a surprise that it sold for that as it had previosly been advertise
by Bells for nearer £230K from memory ,did have a look at the collecting Cars sold list but wouldn't go back that far back,
Condition wasn't quite so good as the black car and had a change of colour which don't think would make any difference being nature of the
beast also had a altogether better shape to the rear wings and a lower stance plus was John Woodfields personal car .
Think this one is how long is apiece of string, Should fetch more but just how must more is anyones guess ,the owner obviously isn't
short of a bob or two so may rather keep it if not making near reserve, Doubt if the F.O.C will welcome it with open arms
so left to the individualist who likes something different waving two fingers at the purists.
Here is a link to the previous one.by Bells for nearer £230K from memory ,did have a look at the collecting Cars sold list but wouldn't go back that far back,
Condition wasn't quite so good as the black car and had a change of colour which don't think would make any difference being nature of the
beast also had a altogether better shape to the rear wings and a lower stance plus was John Woodfields personal car .
Think this one is how long is apiece of string, Should fetch more but just how must more is anyones guess ,the owner obviously isn't
short of a bob or two so may rather keep it if not making near reserve, Doubt if the F.O.C will welcome it with open arms
so left to the individualist who likes something different waving two fingers at the purists.
Edited by rat rod on Saturday 10th April 17:33
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1976-ferrari-5...
Fessia fancier said:
rat rod said:
The last Koenig Boxer went for around £125K plus commission which was a surprise that it sold for that as it had previosly been advertise
by Bells for nearer £230K from memory ,did have a look at the collecting Cars sold list but wouldn't go back that far back,
Condition wasn't quite so good as the black car and had a change of colour which don't think would make any difference being nature of the
beast also had a altogether better shape to the rear wings and a lower stance plus was John Woodfields personal car .
Think this one is how long is apiece of string, Should fetch more but just how must more is anyones guess ,the owner obviously isn't
short of a bob or two so may rather keep it if not making near reserve, Doubt if the F.O.C will welcome it with open arms
so left to the individualist who likes something different waving two fingers at the purists.
Here is a link to the previous one.by Bells for nearer £230K from memory ,did have a look at the collecting Cars sold list but wouldn't go back that far back,
Condition wasn't quite so good as the black car and had a change of colour which don't think would make any difference being nature of the
beast also had a altogether better shape to the rear wings and a lower stance plus was John Woodfields personal car .
Think this one is how long is apiece of string, Should fetch more but just how must more is anyones guess ,the owner obviously isn't
short of a bob or two so may rather keep it if not making near reserve, Doubt if the F.O.C will welcome it with open arms
so left to the individualist who likes something different waving two fingers at the purists.
Edited by rat rod on Saturday 10th April 17:33
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1976-ferrari-5...
Glad you did, reminds me that i was right about it looking so much better than the black car,
Got a more serious look and stance could imagine it in Silverstone's pit lane , It makes the black car a little glitzy .
It's even cheaper than i remember ,can't believe after asking £230K for it then accepting £115K ,that's
half price, Not selling at Bonhams or at Bells probably didn't help either.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1990-lamborghi...
Anyone know this car? The colour is fantastic.
For most, the jury will be out on the interior. Wheel aside I love it.
Just noticed a Koenig 512BBi in one of the photos.
Edit: just noticed this was discussed a couple of pages ago. It’ll be interesting to see what it fetches.
Anyone know this car? The colour is fantastic.
For most, the jury will be out on the interior. Wheel aside I love it.
Just noticed a Koenig 512BBi in one of the photos.
Edited by Chebble on Sunday 11th April 14:04
Edit: just noticed this was discussed a couple of pages ago. It’ll be interesting to see what it fetches.
Edited by Chebble on Sunday 11th April 15:03
Chebble said:
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1990-lamborghi...
Anyone know this car? The colour is fantastic.
For most, the jury will be out on the interior. Wheel aside I love it.
Just noticed a Koenig 512BBi in one of the photos.
Edit: just noticed this was discussed a couple of pages ago. It’ll be interesting to see what it fetches.
That is hideousAnyone know this car? The colour is fantastic.
For most, the jury will be out on the interior. Wheel aside I love it.
Just noticed a Koenig 512BBi in one of the photos.
Edited by Chebble on Sunday 11th April 14:04
Edit: just noticed this was discussed a couple of pages ago. It’ll be interesting to see what it fetches.
Edited by Chebble on Sunday 11th April 15:03
Boxer wasn't cheap or expensive ,£140K + commission, It's more a case if you want it or not,
One comment said it was hideous, apart from sitting up to high and the rear arches a bit overdone i didn't think it looked to bad,
Helped that it was black and not red, less in your face but don't think the buyer will worry about that.
After looking at the photo's of the previous red Koenig Boxer reminded me of how much more of a serious looking car that was
more racer than show car. Apologies for talking Boxer on a Countach thread.
One comment said it was hideous, apart from sitting up to high and the rear arches a bit overdone i didn't think it looked to bad,
Helped that it was black and not red, less in your face but don't think the buyer will worry about that.
After looking at the photo's of the previous red Koenig Boxer reminded me of how much more of a serious looking car that was
more racer than show car. Apologies for talking Boxer on a Countach thread.
lazylobster said:
I really liked the black Boxer. It looked so much better than the red/ black example imho. Worth 140K? Probably. How much is a standard Boxer going for now? Seen prices from 150 - 200K.
But you are a Countach owner, you would like it ,It's a Boxer trying to be a Countach 
Prices of Boxers have come down so nearer to £ 175/£225K, Radleys got a couple , a tad under £200K for
a lovely silver BBi , full history no stories car. I would buy that over the black car for the extra money,
your money would be safer but still prefer the red car, Looks like it's escaped from the 24 hr Le Mans.
Edited by rat rod on Monday 12th April 14:35
Found a few poor phone shots that I took of F919 OYR from Wilmslow in 2016 - believe that this once was red when it belonged to someone on here.
Lovely thing. I do like a black Countach
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|https://thumbsnap.com/V3vBrDsa[/url]
Lovely thing. I do like a black Countach
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|https://thumbsnap.com/V3vBrDsa[/url]Edited by Chebble on Monday 12th April 21:42
Edited by Chebble on Monday 12th April 21:43
rat rod said:
But you are a Countach owner, you would like it ,It's a Boxer trying to be a Countach
Prices of Boxers have come down so nearer to £ 175/£225K, Radleys got a couple , a tad under £200K for
a lovely silver BBi , full history no stories car. I would buy that over the black car for the extra money,
your money would be safer but still prefer the red car, Looks like it's escaped from the 24 hr Le Mans.
I've only driven one 512BB and to be honest, was not a fan of the experience. The engine sounds lovely and I love the look. But for that spend, I'll rather buy something else. Prices of Boxers have come down so nearer to £ 175/£225K, Radleys got a couple , a tad under £200K for
a lovely silver BBi , full history no stories car. I would buy that over the black car for the extra money,
your money would be safer but still prefer the red car, Looks like it's escaped from the 24 hr Le Mans.
Edited by rat rod on Monday 12th April 14:35
Chebble said:
Found a few poor phone shots that I took of F919 OYR from Wilmslow in 2016 - believe that this once was red when it belonged to someone on here.
Lovely thing. I do like a black Countach
[url]
|https://thumbsnap.com/V3vBrDsa[/url]
Yes - that was one of my old Countach’s. it was originally red as you say and was a lovely example. Sadly it was not in a great state the last time I saw it at Mike’s as it had been pranged and awaiting repair.Lovely thing. I do like a black Countach
[url]
|https://thumbsnap.com/V3vBrDsa[/url]Edited by Chebble on Monday 12th April 21:42
Edited by Chebble on Monday 12th April 21:43
lazylobster said:
rat rod said:
But you are a Countach owner, you would like it ,It's a Boxer trying to be a Countach
Prices of Boxers have come down so nearer to £ 175/£225K, Radleys got a couple , a tad under £200K for
a lovely silver BBi , full history no stories car. I would buy that over the black car for the extra money,
your money would be safer but still prefer the red car, Looks like it's escaped from the 24 hr Le Mans.
I've only driven one 512BB and to be honest, was not a fan of the experience. The engine sounds lovely and I love the look. But for that spend, I'll rather buy something else. Prices of Boxers have come down so nearer to £ 175/£225K, Radleys got a couple , a tad under £200K for
a lovely silver BBi , full history no stories car. I would buy that over the black car for the extra money,
your money would be safer but still prefer the red car, Looks like it's escaped from the 24 hr Le Mans.
Edited by rat rod on Monday 12th April 14:35
on the new car it was being p/ex on due to another one of his divorces , Have driven a couple and had to admit being little disappointed
nice size car being quite short, not as quick as i expected and didn't have that go-kart feel of the 308's,
Sold a GTB to a guy who had just sold his Boxer and i thought him mad at the time but he wanted to go back to doing track days
and said the Boxer was dangerous at the limit and didn't give much if any warning when it was going to snap.
Saw him a couple years later at a Ferrari track day in a Testarossa which i wouldn't have thought much better on the track.
A neighbour had a Dino and when the prices went sky high he swapped it for a Boxer thinking how well he had done but was back into
another Dino within a year which must say something, The Daytona's pretty hard work but i'd be quite content just to own one ,
and savour it for that long trip to the sun.
Edited by rat rod on Wednesday 14th April 00:31
rat rod said:
Never owned a Boxer, got close when i thought i had bought Jim Davison's black 1979 car off Maranello's but he cancelled the order
on the new car it was being p/ex on due to another one of his divorces , Have driven a couple and had to admit being little disappointed
nice size car being quite short, not as quick as i expected and didn't have that go-kart feel of the 308's,
Sold a GTB to a guy who had just sold his Boxer and i thought him mad at the time but he wanted to go back to doing track days
and said the Boxer was dangerous at the limit and didn't give much if any warning when it was going to snap.
Saw him a couple years later at a Ferrari track day in a Testarossa which i wouldn't have thought much better.
A neighbour had a Dino and when the prices went sky high he swapped it for a Boxer thinking how well he had done but was back into
another Dino within a year which must say something, The Daytona's pretty hard work but i'd be quite content just to own one ,
and savour it for that long trip to the sun.
On the Daytona .. seems like a good time to buy and there seems to be a well priced one with Justin Banks. These were a lot higher than where they were. I wonder how good a buy they are at the moment. Always liked the look of them however not sure when I would use .. unlikely to use it how it was intended on long continental trips.on the new car it was being p/ex on due to another one of his divorces , Have driven a couple and had to admit being little disappointed
nice size car being quite short, not as quick as i expected and didn't have that go-kart feel of the 308's,
Sold a GTB to a guy who had just sold his Boxer and i thought him mad at the time but he wanted to go back to doing track days
and said the Boxer was dangerous at the limit and didn't give much if any warning when it was going to snap.
Saw him a couple years later at a Ferrari track day in a Testarossa which i wouldn't have thought much better.
A neighbour had a Dino and when the prices went sky high he swapped it for a Boxer thinking how well he had done but was back into
another Dino within a year which must say something, The Daytona's pretty hard work but i'd be quite content just to own one ,
and savour it for that long trip to the sun.
Jonny TVR said:
rat rod said:
Never owned a Boxer, got close when i thought i had bought Jim Davison's black 1979 car off Maranello's but he cancelled the order
on the new car it was being p/ex on due to another one of his divorces , Have driven a couple and had to admit being little disappointed
nice size car being quite short, not as quick as i expected and didn't have that go-kart feel of the 308's,
Sold a GTB to a guy who had just sold his Boxer and i thought him mad at the time but he wanted to go back to doing track days
and said the Boxer was dangerous at the limit and didn't give much if any warning when it was going to snap.
Saw him a couple years later at a Ferrari track day in a Testarossa which i wouldn't have thought much better.
A neighbour had a Dino and when the prices went sky high he swapped it for a Boxer thinking how well he had done but was back into
another Dino within a year which must say something, The Daytona's pretty hard work but i'd be quite content just to own one ,
and savour it for that long trip to the sun.
On the Daytona .. seems like a good time to buy and there seems to be a well priced one with Justin Banks. These were a lot higher than where they were. I wonder how good a buy they are at the moment. Always liked the look of them however not sure when I would use .. unlikely to use it how it was intended on long continental trips.on the new car it was being p/ex on due to another one of his divorces , Have driven a couple and had to admit being little disappointed
nice size car being quite short, not as quick as i expected and didn't have that go-kart feel of the 308's,
Sold a GTB to a guy who had just sold his Boxer and i thought him mad at the time but he wanted to go back to doing track days
and said the Boxer was dangerous at the limit and didn't give much if any warning when it was going to snap.
Saw him a couple years later at a Ferrari track day in a Testarossa which i wouldn't have thought much better.
A neighbour had a Dino and when the prices went sky high he swapped it for a Boxer thinking how well he had done but was back into
another Dino within a year which must say something, The Daytona's pretty hard work but i'd be quite content just to own one ,
and savour it for that long trip to the sun.
Old car so pay as much as you can afford for the best one as a financial disaster if buying the wrong car,
Have owned several older V 12's and there's no short cuts with them.
Only Daytona i have driven was a plexiglass early model, very quite Saterday morning at Maranello's Mark Konig took me out in a
one owner (chairman of the F.O.C ) 19,000 mile car priced at £19,500 . Couldn't afford it at the time but had bought a few of cars from them
so took me out as a favour not a customer. He let me drive it back to the showroom but a little nervous having a ex/works Ferrari
driver sat next to me. Didn't seem that quick at first and very heavy slow steering but like any big old monster once warmed up
on a short bit of duel carriage way it went like a train
, Just getting the hang of it and it was time to return to the showroom
Noticed that power steering has been fitted to a number of them probably for the better with today's traffic which will be just as bad when
you get down to Monte- Carlo. Tom Harley (jn) had a beautiful one recently in the original colour of Marone metalic brown,think that was
the name of it,i had a fibre glass GTB and GT4 in the same colour or very similar.
Just had a look to see what the colour is called but looks like he's sold it ,also looks like he's been busy as he looks short on stock.
The nearest to a Daytona is the 275 GTB which are millions so making them look a little under priced ,but for how long ?
rat rod said:
Prices seemed to have dropped from a high £700K/£750K to around £500K ,Justin's being just below and others still at £600K +
Old car so pay as much as you can afford for the best one as a financial disaster if buying the wrong car,
Have owned several older V 12's and there's no short cuts with them.
Only Daytona i have driven was a plexiglass early model, very quite Saterday morning at Maranello's Mark Konig took me out in a
one owner (chairman of the F.O.C ) 19,000 mile car priced at £19,500 . Couldn't afford it at the time but had bought a few of cars from them
so took me out as a favour not a customer. He let me drive it back to the showroom but a little nervous having a ex/works Ferrari
driver sat next to me. Didn't seem that quick at first and very heavy slow steering but like any big old monster once warmed up
on a short bit of duel carriage way it went like a train, Just getting the hang of it and it was time to return to the showroom
Noticed that power steering has been fitted to a number of them probably for the better with today's traffic which will be just as bad when
you get down to Monte- Carlo. Tom Harley (jn) had a beautiful one recently in the original colour of Marone metalic brown,think that was
the name of it,i had a fibre glass GTB and GT4 in the same colour or very similar.
Just had a look to see what the colour is called but looks like he's sold it ,also looks like he's been busy as he looks short on stock.
The nearest to a Daytona is the 275 GTB which are millions so making them look a little under priced ,but for how long ?
Very much my recollection of Daytonas too. Heavy steering (not very accurate either), heavy clutch and a bit of a truck. Did not feel quick but apparently they come alive at higher speeds.Old car so pay as much as you can afford for the best one as a financial disaster if buying the wrong car,
Have owned several older V 12's and there's no short cuts with them.
Only Daytona i have driven was a plexiglass early model, very quite Saterday morning at Maranello's Mark Konig took me out in a
one owner (chairman of the F.O.C ) 19,000 mile car priced at £19,500 . Couldn't afford it at the time but had bought a few of cars from them
so took me out as a favour not a customer. He let me drive it back to the showroom but a little nervous having a ex/works Ferrari
driver sat next to me. Didn't seem that quick at first and very heavy slow steering but like any big old monster once warmed up
on a short bit of duel carriage way it went like a train
, Just getting the hang of it and it was time to return to the showroomNoticed that power steering has been fitted to a number of them probably for the better with today's traffic which will be just as bad when
you get down to Monte- Carlo. Tom Harley (jn) had a beautiful one recently in the original colour of Marone metalic brown,think that was
the name of it,i had a fibre glass GTB and GT4 in the same colour or very similar.
Just had a look to see what the colour is called but looks like he's sold it ,also looks like he's been busy as he looks short on stock.
The nearest to a Daytona is the 275 GTB which are millions so making them look a little under priced ,but for how long ?
Robert W said:
AMVSVNick said:
Robert W said:
Relatively few - a blu Acapulco Anniversary supplied new to Ingham (maybe dealer Martin Ingham alt he says not) then to Nair and a red Anniversary new to Julian Smith in Jersey and registered J6268.
It was definitely Martin Ingham as that is where I purchased my car from and he told me he had it!!!https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
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