Anyone have an outlook for old Sports Series range?
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akadk said:
When you’ve got several £200k units of stock incurring interest by the day at very high rates, you’ll happily offer a few £k off either which way to it gone, it’s a slippery slope
But production has been paired back and pretty much built to order so apart from ex demo there are not fields of cars around unlike porschesakadk said:
When you’ve got several £200k units of stock incurring interest by the day at very high rates, you’ll happily offer a few £k off either which way to it gone, it’s a slippery slope
That applies to all dealers, of all marques, with stock sat on the forecourt.A dealer offering a free PPF incentive is hardly the start of a fire sale.....
Streetbeat said:
Gibbo205 said:
True but numbers have never been this low and considering the cars are now an additional year old and in general the car market is plummeting in prices the 600 LT particular in Spider form is one of the few cars which has gone against the trend, even the coupes have gone up from their lows.
I suspect a lot of it is people realising just how good they are and the fact they are just as reliable as any other super car typically.
In the U.K. there is only like 170 coupes and 150 spiders so the 600 is a rare car and a bloody fantastic one. I doubt we will see a Spider again for as low as £125,000 even for a leggy high mileage one.
Absolutely love mine after driving 570, 720 and 600 the latter was the easy choice for me.
Im sure people havent just suddenly realised this year how good Mclarens are I suspect a lot of it is people realising just how good they are and the fact they are just as reliable as any other super car typically.
In the U.K. there is only like 170 coupes and 150 spiders so the 600 is a rare car and a bloody fantastic one. I doubt we will see a Spider again for as low as £125,000 even for a leggy high mileage one.
Absolutely love mine after driving 570, 720 and 600 the latter was the easy choice for me.
, i suspect you will find the people who bought late autumn/winter last year are enjoying the cars with the positive equity they have in them (and at lower interest rates too) during the summer months. I agree the numberare a little on the low side, but its already increasing and prices starting to dip with a couple under £140k and a few just over.
I dont see this year, especially as you say with most car prices taking a hit and interest rates still rising, the 600LT will be any different regardless of numbers, the only mainstream Maclaren that has been stable is the 720s and theres a fair few of them, when i bought in 2020, they were £150-£155k for a good spec one and that hasnt changed throughout.
This has been a superb thread, but a lot of it is owners talking up prices and buyers talking down prices which is no surprise, the reality is somewhere in the middle.
22 600lt's now, its filling up, with some nice ones at sub £140 again, interestingly, well to me anyway, some very nice 720's at sub £140 too, ive not seen that in the last 3/4years, maybe the incoming 750s is driving them down.
Streetbeat said:
Coming back to this:
22 600lt's now, its filling up, with some nice ones at sub £140 again, interestingly, well to me anyway, some very nice 720's at sub £140 too, ive not seen that in the last 3/4years, maybe the incoming 750s is driving them down.
Only 15 600LT's on PH.22 600lt's now, its filling up, with some nice ones at sub £140 again, interestingly, well to me anyway, some very nice 720's at sub £140 too, ive not seen that in the last 3/4years, maybe the incoming 750s is driving them down.
One is sold, two are adverts.
Only 1 is £100 under £140k.
Just sayin'........
Edited by Sarnie on Saturday 16th September 10:57
Edited by Sarnie on Saturday 16th September 11:09
Much as I like PH and use it to sell my own cars, my observation has been that AT has more listings which are kept more up-to-date than PH, so is a slightly better window into the market.
The orange private sale car at £136k looks great, but it's reasonable for a private sale to be pitched a bit lower than dealers who have some legal responsibilities for what they sell.
The realistic 'entry point' for 600LT coupes does look to be £140k currently, so that's still a bit higher than it's been ~6 months ago where there were dealer cars offered for £135k or a little less.
Only 6/22 are Spiders, although the fresh air premium seems to be a bit less than £10k currently.
At the bottom end of the 570S market, there are four early cars offered privately under £75k. However it seems like the dealer cars are still about where they were, and there are still as many high prices at the top of the market as ever; the biggest change seems to be that there look to be more private sales than there used to be, which are offered at lower prices.
Sarnie said:
Only 15 600LT's on PH.
One is sold, two are adverts.
Only 1 is £100 under £140k.
Just sayin'........
For reference against autotrader of a handful of weeks agos of 14 total, just sayin....One is sold, two are adverts.
Only 1 is £100 under £140k.
Just sayin'........
Edited by Sarnie on Saturday 16th September 10:57
Edited by Sarnie on Saturday 16th September 11:09
samoht said:
The orange private sale car at £136k looks great, but it's reasonable for a private sale to be pitched a bit lower than dealers who have some legal responsibilities for what they sell..
This car was on ticket competition website recently, seems the winner is cashing in hence the low price.I've never sold a car on AT, always sold all my cars on PH.
Cheapest 600LT spider in a while from a dealer at £133k and 21k miles
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15629418
Looks like they're not immune to the current market where things need to be priced well to sell
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15629418
Looks like they're not immune to the current market where things need to be priced well to sell
PinkHouse said:
Cheapest 600LT spider in a while from a dealer at £133k and 21k miles
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15629418
Looks like they're not immune to the current market where things need to be priced well to sell
Not surprised though, poverty spec car that.https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15629418
Looks like they're not immune to the current market where things need to be priced well to sell
Gibbo205 said:
PinkHouse said:
Cheapest 600LT spider in a while from a dealer at £133k and 21k miles
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15629418
Looks like they're not immune to the current market where things need to be priced well to sell
Not surprised though, poverty spec car that.https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15629418
Looks like they're not immune to the current market where things need to be priced well to sell
PinkHouse said:
Cheapest 600LT spider in a while from a dealer at £133k and 21k miles
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15629418
Looks like they're not immune to the current market where things need to be priced well to sell
Possibly the lowest spec 600LT I've ever seen........https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15629418
Looks like they're not immune to the current market where things need to be priced well to sell
PinkHouse said:
I'm watching these and 720s as potential upgrade paths from my 540. This one looks to be missing the exterior exposed carbon packs but the parts are still carbon so it won't be an issue for me but I guess most 600 buyers would want exposed carbon so might be slower to sell. I get on well with the "comfort" seats as they provide more than enough support and make usability less of an issue. I haven't found that either of the P1 or Senna seats have been as comfortable as my previous Exige 410 so I'm not too fussed about this one missing buckets but that would have to be priced in as well. It would be interesting to see how these "lower specced" cars fare over the winter as there might be bargains to be had. I remember New Forest retailing a car exactly like this (same colour, 19k miles, no buckets or carbon) for £145k last winter
Having driven a few 600 with each seat type I hated the comfort seats, I'd summarise each for me as:Comfort: Seating position is far higher, even on lowest possible settings, supportive but average and average comfort, plus is heating.
P1: Sit mega low, maybe lower than Senna, mega comfortable over long distances.
Senna: Work of art, not quite as comfortable as the P1 and a little more difficult to get in and out, but look at them.
For me in a 600 it has to be P1 or Senna, my main dislike for the comforts is for me they really diluted the driving experience, less feel, higher sitting position just for me felt wrong, the 600 is a proper sports / track car, comfort seat was not for me.
To flip it a very well spec car sold within a week last week for 152k which was a great spec, the less desirable specs in more basic colours with comfort seats take longer to shift or need a very attractive price point to do so.
Nuttbelle said:
Quite possibly but they still all drive the same and it's only cosmetics and the options list wasn't that extensive unless you went MSO
The options list was pretty vast and expensive and not many people want comfort seats that sit you high up in the cabin, I know for me it certainly was absolutely a priority to have P1 or Senna seats.Just like hardly anyone would spec comfort seats if it was an option in a 765LT or 675LT.....
600 LT options could easily add 100k extra to the base price, I know as my cars list price was 277k, so nearly 100k up on base price and it only has a few MSO options on it:
Louvres - £9500
Full carbon side sills with MSO branding - £4500
MSO Volcano Red - Unsure as not a price list option, it is now £11,000, but dealer lead me to believe an MSO Heritage colour as it is called now used to be circa £6500.
MSO stitching on P1 seats - Unknown
MSO floor mats - Unknown
MSO - Exclusive stitching - Unknown
MSO Black Pack - £6500
My car does not have some of the really big ticket items like MSO Clubsport pack which was 20-30k or the MSO exposed carbon spoiler which was like another £4000 or so, in fairness on Volcano red the Black Pack compliments the colour better than exposed carbon weave in my opinion.
The 600 LT Spider I drove which had comfort seats was love at first sight as it was Helios Orange with all three carbon external packs which complimented Helios Orange well, but it had no louvres which started to kill the deal as I am a firm believe that all 600 LT's should have louvres but I do understand at a near £10,000 option I can see why many skipped it on the options list along with clubsport pack. It was when I got to the interior and the car had the comfort seats and your argument to they all drive the same, yes they do but drive one with comfort seats and then one with P1/Senna seats and the sensations and experience are somewhat different, the comforts sit you much higher and hide you from so much of the harmonics / NVH which I love about the 600. So for me they drove quite different and totally killed that car for me and any other which has comforts, I get why some people want them, particular in a Spider due to heating, but for me absolute no go and they always seem to impact the value of second hand cars considerably as does lack of louvres.
Still for someone who is not fussed its a great deal potentially.
Edited by Gibbo205 on Wednesday 4th October 14:18
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