Advice requested (from GT4 to 570).
Discussion
The Surveyor said:
av185 said:
570S great looking car but outclassed by latest GT3 on every level.......
and .. and ... and .... and it's a good job we all like different things isn't it.Last words: Billionaire doors. The end
Sorry for my 7th post 
It would be a big shame if the same sportscar floated all of our boats - I visited McLaren (Leeds) over the weekend to view the 570S - the array of McLarens they have on show is absolutely spectacular. The 570S appears like a very upmarket Lotus in feel, driving position and minimalistic controls/features which is a massive plus for me - the designers have got it absolutely spot on and the best looker by far. I now know the car that will be replacing my Exige!!
It would be a big shame if the same sportscar floated all of our boats
- I visited McLaren (Leeds) over the weekend to view the 570S - the array of McLarens they have on show is absolutely spectacular. The 570S appears like a very upmarket Lotus in feel, driving position and minimalistic controls/features which is a massive plus for me - the designers have got it absolutely spot on and the best looker by far. I now know the car that will be replacing my Exige!!Targarama said:
Indeed. I respect what Porsche has done, they are very good cars. But they leave me cold, especially for the money. In 7 or so years McLaren has them beaten in so many ways. McLaren is a victim of its own success at the moment.
Last words: Billionaire doors. The end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJIAOosI6jsLast words: Billionaire doors. The end
F..k you in the ar53
Edited by RamboLambo on Monday 13th August 15:49
Some people prefer Iinferior EPS, chocolate engines, leaking RMS? doggy 2hd gear changes, leaking PASM units, radiator and air conditioning condenser leaks.
Soon they will be platform sharing with lesser VW saloon cars 😂 I’ll stick with my bespoke carbon tub thank you very much.
Soon they will be platform sharing with lesser VW saloon cars 😂 I’ll stick with my bespoke carbon tub thank you very much.
Indeed, the great sage Porch911R himself advised of the death of Ferdinand's greatest:-
"The 911 is dead, we are going shared platform, so you will only be picking body shape going forward !
992 could well be the last real 911. The future looks bleak."
Like the Huracan and the R8, it looks like the 'Fun Police' are taking over the engineering departments in Europe and we will all be left looking back wishing there we had as many options as we do now.
"The 911 is dead, we are going shared platform, so you will only be picking body shape going forward !
992 could well be the last real 911. The future looks bleak."
Like the Huracan and the R8, it looks like the 'Fun Police' are taking over the engineering departments in Europe and we will all be left looking back wishing there we had as many options as we do now.
Porsche911R said:
It what it is.
You seem to like saying that rather a lot. It might be whatever it is to you but I'd be damned if your opinion was now the bloody gospel and everyone had to agree with what your various proclamations (especially most of what you do say is jumbled garbage).
Person on Mclaren forum has an interest in changing his gt4 for a Mclaren and more crucially was asking specifically about something to do with the Mclaren which frankly you would know absolutely nothing about and you still feel the need to pile in with your usual ill informed nonsense about the 570 (which would easily run rings around a gt4 on track and is far more fun to drive on the road if one is not obsessed about only having a manual gearbox to boot). And you wonder why some people on the Porsche forums have a serious issue with you?
isaldiri said:
You seem to like saying that rather a lot.
It might be whatever it is to you but I'd be damned if your opinion was now the bloody gospel and everyone had to agree with what your various proclamations (especially most of what you do say is jumbled garbage).
Person on Mclaren forum has an interest in changing his gt4 for a Mclaren and more crucially was asking specifically about something to do with the Mclaren which frankly you would know absolutely nothing about and you still feel the need to pile in with your usual ill informed nonsense about the 570 (which would easily run rings around a gt4 on track and is far more fun to drive on the road if one is not obsessed about only having a manual gearbox to boot). And you wonder why some people on the Porsche forums have a serious issue with you?
Amen to that - the crap he has posted, under alias names, on the various Lotus forums over the years has been staggering.It might be whatever it is to you but I'd be damned if your opinion was now the bloody gospel and everyone had to agree with what your various proclamations (especially most of what you do say is jumbled garbage).
Person on Mclaren forum has an interest in changing his gt4 for a Mclaren and more crucially was asking specifically about something to do with the Mclaren which frankly you would know absolutely nothing about and you still feel the need to pile in with your usual ill informed nonsense about the 570 (which would easily run rings around a gt4 on track and is far more fun to drive on the road if one is not obsessed about only having a manual gearbox to boot). And you wonder why some people on the Porsche forums have a serious issue with you?
A question to actual 570S owners what are the suggested/most desirable' options?
A good start is the super light weight wheels these save 7kg over the standard ten spoke cast wheels, next manual sliding seats save another 12kg over the electric seats, MSO titanium exhaust saves another 4.9 kg over the normal sport exhaust.
Soft close doors nice to have, McLaren lightweight ten speaker system or Bowers & Wilks System much better than the standard four speaker set up.
Front lift is also very desirable option to have, I personally like matching calipers with the interior colour but that is only for the bold
Interior components in carbon fibre is also a must IMHO the standard grey finnish otherwise is a little dull and uninspiring, but each to his own and all that.
Soft close doors nice to have, McLaren lightweight ten speaker system or Bowers & Wilks System much better than the standard four speaker set up.
Front lift is also very desirable option to have, I personally like matching calipers with the interior colour but that is only for the bold
Interior components in carbon fibre is also a must IMHO the standard grey finnish otherwise is a little dull and uninspiring, but each to his own and all that.
tyrrell said:
A good start is the super light weight wheels these save 7kg over the standard ten spoke cast wheels, next manual sliding seats save another 12kg over the electric seats, MSO titanium exhaust saves another 4.9 kg over the normal sport exhaust.
Soft close doors nice to have, McLaren lightweight ten speaker system or Bowers & Wilks System much better than the standard four speaker set up.
Front lift is also very desirable option to have, I personally like matching calipers with the interior colour but that is only for the bold
Interior components in carbon fibre is also a must IMHO the standard grey finnish otherwise is a little dull and uninspiring, but each to his own and all that.
Agree on most of that. Front lift is a must have, the car is very low. As is the carbon interior pack, which also gives the extended paddles. Soft close doors nice to have, McLaren lightweight ten speaker system or Bowers & Wilks System much better than the standard four speaker set up.
Front lift is also very desirable option to have, I personally like matching calipers with the interior colour but that is only for the bold
Interior components in carbon fibre is also a must IMHO the standard grey finnish otherwise is a little dull and uninspiring, but each to his own and all that.
Soft close doors, it seems on the owners group these cause a lot more problems than they are worth? I don't have them myself but believe they are an easy aftermarket addition, although all the talk of windows opening and closing, alarms going off etc put me off? I would quite like them I must admit.
Agree on the stereo also. I have the 4 speaker set up and its ok. Not much more to say about it other than I wish I had the B&W
I went for the 570s and have had it a year alongside the GT2 (996j. 570 is a great car that you can have lots of fun with and the car can also do quiet and comfortable. The GT2 doesn’t know quiet and comfortable and has a different character to the 570. I’d definitely have front lift, I’ve got the soft close doors which haven’t caused an issue, I also went for the bucket seats as they hold you well. Aside from that in my view it’s then down to aesthetics and how much noise you want which is all down to personal taste and each to their own. Go take one for a drive and see how you like it.
isaldiri said:
Person on Mclaren forum has an interest in changing his gt4 for a Mclaren and more crucially was asking specifically about something to do with the Mclaren which frankly you would know absolutely nothing about and you still feel the need to pile in with your usual ill informed nonsense about the 570 (which would easily run rings around a gt4 on track and is far more fun to drive on the road if one is not obsessed about only having a manual gearbox to boot). And you wonder why some people on the Porsche forums have a serious issue with you?
You said what I was thinking!RamboLambo said:
lol - hysterical!OK - so the original car linked in the first post might not be the one for me - good to read thoughts from owners. Thanks.
Targarama said:
I would say the front lift and extended paddles (= carbon interior pack) are definitely needed. I have a GT so have soft close doors as standard, they are great and I have had no issues with them whatsoever.
Agreed 100%. My S has the nose lift (came as part of the 'security pack') and the carbon interior set. I always felt that the soft close doors were better suited to the GT rather than the S, but I'm now thinking they add a little extra touch of 'special' that you would expect as standard, mine doesn't have them...
OP, give your local dealer a call and arrange a test drive, only then will you know if a 570 suits you.
All the road tests which were done at the time of the 570 launch pitched it against the 911 Turbo S (and R8 V10 plus) rather than a 'GT' Porsche, it being the more everyday usable car rather than a 'track' bias toy. The 570s generally beat the Turbo S in every comparable test including track times and against the watch, but the Turbo S is different to a GT3 so the comparable between the GT3 and 570s may be different for you too.
One thing to bear in mind on the McLarens is that they came with a 3 year manufacturers warranty, 2016 cars like the one you linked will be getting to the point where that will expire next year and the extended warranty isn't cheap so factor that into your budget. They are not Porsche and are not the same 'hewn from granite' build (or weight) so whilst mines been completely reliable, others have had niggles so I wouldn't recommend running one without a warranty.
All the road tests which were done at the time of the 570 launch pitched it against the 911 Turbo S (and R8 V10 plus) rather than a 'GT' Porsche, it being the more everyday usable car rather than a 'track' bias toy. The 570s generally beat the Turbo S in every comparable test including track times and against the watch, but the Turbo S is different to a GT3 so the comparable between the GT3 and 570s may be different for you too.
One thing to bear in mind on the McLarens is that they came with a 3 year manufacturers warranty, 2016 cars like the one you linked will be getting to the point where that will expire next year and the extended warranty isn't cheap so factor that into your budget. They are not Porsche and are not the same 'hewn from granite' build (or weight) so whilst mines been completely reliable, others have had niggles so I wouldn't recommend running one without a warranty.
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