The 600LT Seems To Have Fell Off The Radar

[ferdi p]

Juno said:

Im obsessed with depreciation,yep well spotted that’s because I’m not a reckless idiot, now have a look at how many other people are concerned about depreciation,I think you will find there are a lot more than just me. Go to a car meet and youv will find the same,many people who would don’t buy a Mac because of the INSANE depreciation.

Check the many other threads about ownership,depreciation,reliability,dealer support etc,there are many and not all started by me!!!

Well done for having a mindset where your happy to lose £60k for a few thousand miles of fun,I have plenty of fun without sustaining such rediculous losses!!!

Then go enjoy your Porsche & stop the ranting.

There's also many threads on 911's saying;
991 GT3 engines blow up.
It's a sportscar not a supercar.
It's a 911 with a body kit.
Only decent on track, crap on road.
Don't buy one without lift.

You see some people will put up with the above to suffer no depreciation. That's all good with me however I won't be on the Porsche forum banging on about it.

[HighwayStar]

Interesting YouTube piece from Misha Charoudin of Apex Nueburg. They have just acquired a 600LT to be used as a their Ring Taxi.
There is some thoughts comparing it with the 720S and 675LT.
https://youtu.be/T3-foyqSjkc

[Gameface]

Desert Dragon said:

Had a good look around one at JZM. Zero desirability IMO. Just doesn't do anything for me at all.

The purple one?

Looks good in pictures.

[Juno]

isaldiri said:

Then stop looking at Mclaren. You have been very clear about what the priority of a car is to you - lack of depreciation/appreciation above anything else and fair enough, your money, your choice. Just enjoy your gt3 without needing to constantly take a pop at any of the Mclarens for losing money when other people are prepared to put up with that aspect of ownership.

I’ll keep looking thanks and I’ll comment as I feel
fit. As I have said I do want to own one hence looking and commenting. However Mclaren need to learn how to build a sustainable market,this in my opinion is unsustainable.

It’s funny this forum,I’ve been a member for 16 years but as soon as you say something negative you get told to get the hell out of here!

I always congratulate those who do buy,I do not knock them but surely I can have my opinions as well!

The Porsche forum is also littered with topics about values, it’s a forum,that’s what happens on forums!

[Juno]

ferdi p said:

Then go enjoy your Porsche & stop the ranting.

There's also many threads on 911's saying;
991 GT3 engines blow up.
It's a sportscar not a supercar.
It's a 911 with a body kit.
Only decent on track, crap on road.
Don't buy one without lift.

You see some people will put up with the above to suffer no depreciation. That's all good with me however I won't be on the Porsche forum banging on about it.

You can always tell when you have hit a nerve,I see no ranting in my posts but the responder has resorted to referring to a hugely capable highly developed car with DNA from one of the most sicsessful one make race series in the World as a car with a body kit

And he’s simply not getting the point,at some point I want a Mclaren alongside my Porsche and other cars,I’m not knocking the car,I’m concerned about McLarens current position and how there cars trade in the market place.

It’s not just residual values either,if you want to sell the car at some point in many cases Mclaren dealers will simply not buy them back unless you are part exchanging,that’s rediculous and wrong when they won’t even support there own brand.

These are facts and if you are buying with eyes wide open then great,good luck any enjoy but surely I am allowed my alternative view until such times the tide changes.

[isaldiri]

Juno said:

I’ll keep looking thanks and I’ll comment as I feel
fit. As I have said I do want to own one hence looking and commenting. However Mclaren need to learn how to build a sustainable market,this in my opinion is unsustainable.

It’s funny this forum,I’ve been a member for 16 years but as soon as you say something negative you get told to get the hell out of here!

I always congratulate those who do buy,I do not knock them but surely I can have my opinions as well!

You're not told to get out if you post a couple of times about the issue as obviously it is there and it is real. Every single mclaren related post of yours which you make regularly is about depreciation. Don't you see why that might be tiresome?

Make your point and move on. You can feel smugly satisfied in buying a car that appears not to depreciate for the moment, let others enjoy their cars that do without going on about it on and on...and on as a courtesy perhaps?

[Juno]

isaldiri said:

Juno said:

I’ll keep looking thanks and I’ll comment as I feel
fit. As I have said I do want to own one hence looking and commenting. However Mclaren need to learn how to build a sustainable market,this in my opinion is unsustainable.

It’s funny this forum,I’ve been a member for 16 years but as soon as you say something negative you get told to get the hell out of here!

I always congratulate those who do buy,I do not knock them but surely I can have my opinions as well!

You're not told to get out if you post a couple of times about the issue as obviously it is there and it is real. Every single mclaren related post of yours which you make regularly is about depreciation. Don't you see why that might be tiresome?

Make your point and move on. You can feel smugly satisfied in buying a car that appears not to depreciate for the moment, let others enjoy their cars that do without going on about it on and on...and on as a courtesy perhaps?

OK point taken enough said for now,let’s see how it pans out and when the time is right to jump in!

[theRossatron]

12pack said:

Beautiful. Congratulations. Certainly a standout compared to the same old Europeans. Despite all the hand wringing from some, its amazing how far McLaren have come in such a short time.

Edited by 12pack on Thursday 28th February 07:23

thank you!

I get the concerns about depreciation but this is mostly a function of peoples attitude towards the cars, they are making hit after hit just now. I can only see them improving in that regard.

[CharlesElliott]

£115-120K would tempt me into 570S Spider.

[br d]

So if you're not "obsessed with depreciation" then you're "a reckless idiot".

I thought I was neither but I suppose I'll have to pick now.

[ferdi p]

Juno said:

You can always tell when you have hit a nerve,I see no ranting in my posts but the responder has resorted to referring to a hugely capable highly developed car with DNA from one of the most sicsessful one make race series in the World as a car with a body kit

And he’s simply not getting the point,at some point I want a Mclaren alongside my Porsche and other cars,I’m not knocking the car,I’m concerned about McLarens current position and how there cars trade in the market place.

It’s not just residual values either,if you want to sell the car at some point in many cases Mclaren dealers will simply not buy them back unless you are part exchanging,that’s rediculous and wrong when they won’t even support there own brand.

These are facts and if you are buying with eyes wide open then great,good luck any enjoy but surely I am allowed my alternative view until such times the tide changes.

You missed the point, I didn't say it, people say it.

By the way I've had 2 x 997GT3's & an early 991GT3 that had to have a new engine. Loved them all & never lost a penny on any of them to be fair!

My 650 has cost me 25k in a year, it's going to be replaced with a 720 which will no doubt lose me another chunk. I wouldn't say I'm happy about it but I'd genuinely struggle to go back to a 911 after having a Mac!

I did a few road trips, 1 of them with my daughter through France, I can assure you she'd never have come if I still had a "boring 911" Her words not mine!
I've just realised this makes me look bad, I'm sure she'd still have loved my company in the GT3 !

Now get rid of your mega successful race series motor & jump in a Mac, sod the depreciation, you'll never look back, literally

[The Surveyor]

Juno said:

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And he’s simply not getting the point, at some point I want a Mclaren alongside my Porsche and other cars,.......
…..

Eh? If you actually wanted to buy a McLaren, surly the ability to buy a nearly new £200k supercar for a little over £100k should be a very welcome breath of fresh air, compared to the Porsche world where you have to pay over £200k for a sports car which retailed for a little over £100k

Buy it, drive it, enjoy it

[RSbandit]

Like everything else your entry point is key, if you are able to buy GT3s /RS straight from dealer at list then good for you ...I saw one RS trade at £270k at my local dealer back in 2016 ..good way to burn £100k in a couple of yrs

[RSbandit]

Like everything else your entry point is key, if you are able to buy GT3s /RS straight from dealer at list then good for you ...I saw one RS trade at £270k at my local dealer back in 2016 ..good way to burn £100k in a couple of yrs

[KHK]

Not a limited production car and never had the same mystique the 675lt had. Frankly the market for flipping exotics is slowing and manufactures are pumping out models like crazy with no care in the world to make them limited.

[Juno]

The Surveyor said:

Juno said:

……...
And he’s simply not getting the point, at some point I want a Mclaren alongside my Porsche and other cars,.......
…..

Eh? If you actually wanted to buy a McLaren, surly the ability to buy a nearly new £200k supercar for a little over £100k should be a very welcome breath of fresh air, compared to the Porsche world where you have to pay over £200k for a sports car which retailed for a little over £100k

Buy it, drive it, enjoy it

I think 570’s are a bargain at near £100k and may well have jumped if the 600LT had not been released. The launch of the 600 makes you pause and think,ah I’ll wait a little longer,its the 600 I want now!

The latest and greatest model always manages to pull on the heart strings.

I may still take a poke at a 570 soon despite the existence of the 600,1/2 the price for the standard car versus the 600 does seem somewhat of a bargain.

Edited by Juno on Friday 1st March 05:35

[The Surveyor]

Juno said:

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I may still take a poke at a 570 soon despite the existence of the 600,1/2 the price for the standard car versus the 600 does seem somewhat of a bargain.

Seriously and parking the banter, give one a go. There will always be newer versions, updates, and alternatives from other manufacturers, but I've never regretted buying my fabulous 570s.

[MDL111]

My view always is buy a car you are happy with, there always will be new models - doesn't make my car worse as a result. Just because there are a ton of new Ferraris, I still would not want to suddenly "upgrade" my Scuderia. Don't even know if I would want to trade it straight up for a new model.

All this depreciation talk is kinda pointless if you like what you own - just keep the car and it is a non-issue. I like depreciation because it makes my entry point lower, so I can afford to buy more cars….

[993rsr]

MDL111 said:

My view always is buy a car you are happy with, there always will be new models - doesn't make my car worse as a result. Just because there are a ton of new Ferraris, I still would not want to suddenly "upgrade" my Scuderia. Don't even know if I would want to trade it straight up for a new model.

All this depreciation talk is kinda pointless if you like what you own - just keep the car and it is a non-issue. I like depreciation because it makes my entry point lower, so I can afford to buy more cars….

Another one tempted here, for me the 675LT at £199k with Simon Furlonger looks a good buy?

[Juno]

The Surveyor said:

Juno said:

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I may still take a poke at a 570 soon despite the existence of the 600,1/2 the price for the standard car versus the 600 does seem somewhat of a bargain.

Seriously and parking the banter, give one a go. There will always be newer versions, updates, and alternatives from other manufacturers, but I've never regretted buying my fabulous 570s.

Easy Tiger