540c

[Streetrod]

TedLeveTT said:

Streetrod said:

Maybe these will push you over the edge

That 540 is an absolutely beautiful spec! Although I feel as if the rear needs some sort of spoiler as it is a little flat. The front is the best angle in my opinion. Sam's car looks great too, the green looks dark in some lights and then when the sun hits it the car has a kind of gold glow about it, very special.

This is a 570GT, not a 540C just in case I gave the impression it was.

As for a spoiler, I much prefer this trend to cars without fixed spoilers if I am honest as the cars tend to have a purer, cleaner and have lesser of a boy racer look. And let’s be honest a fixed spoiler just points to the fact that your cars basic aero is not up to scratch in the first place.

On the flip side if you happen to be lucky enough to own a race car or a road/race car like a P1 GTR then the rear wing is fully justified and look very cool. I am obviously confused

[Targarama]

Davey S2 said:

STG should have wrapped his 540 in that type of blue. Absolutely stunning.

That would be copying Shmee150

[TedLeveTT]

Streetrod said:

This is a 570GT, not a 540C just in case I gave the impression it was.

As for a spoiler, I much prefer this trend to cars without fixed spoilers if I am honest as the cars tend to have a purer, cleaner and have lesser of a boy racer look. And let’s be honest a fixed spoiler just points to the fact that your cars basic aero is not up to scratch in the first place.

On the flip side if you happen to be lucky enough to own a race car or a road/race car like a P1 GTR then the rear wing is fully justified and look very cool. I am obviously confused

Ohh I see, the 540 and 570's are very hard to tell apart. How do you tell them apart if anyone knows? Do you like the 675LT wing? I do kind of agree with you though. I think the MSO HS wing looks kinda odd.

[barchetta_boy]

Just beautiful... right up there with the teal / dark petrol blue on the demonstrator GT.

[anonymous-user]

TedLeveTT said:

Ohh I see, the 540 and 570's are very hard to tell apart. How do you tell them apart if anyone knows? Do you like the 675LT wing? I do kind of agree with you though. I think the MSO HS wing looks kinda odd.

The main "easy" visual difference is the extended sill that extends out from below the bottom of the door and has 570S on it.

The 540 sill is flat to the body.

[TedLeveTT]

garyhun said:

The main "easy" visual difference is the extended sill that extends out from below the bottom of the door and has 570S on it.

The 540 sill is flat to the body.

Ahh I see, just googled and could barely see the "570s" . Maybe it's easier to see in person, will have to keep an eye out this summer in London!

[Sarnie]

TedLeveTT said:

Streetrod said:

Maybe these will push you over the edge

That 540 is an absolutely beautiful spec! Although I feel as if the rear needs some sort of spoiler as it is a little flat. The front is the best angle in my opinion. Sam's car looks great too, the green looks dark in some lights and then when the sun hits it the car has a kind of gold glow about it, very special.

Its a GT not a 540

[Sarnie]

Not too disimilar;

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

[MrVert]

That's the first McLaren that's made me think 'Wow'!

Stunning looking car

[mattf93]

Beefmeister said:

I'd go for a new 540C over a 12C too. The 540C is the best value supercar on sale today, it's staggeringly good IMO.

And as much as I love the 12C, the 540 looks better, has newer tech and I really wouldn't miss the extra horses day to day, especially as there's no chance in hell that the 540 is only producing 540hp. In my experience the 570 is putting out 570 at the wheels I reckon, nearer 600 at the fly.

Probably not, but also when companies such as http://www.dmsautomotive.com/upgrades/mclaren-540-... can get 650 BHP and 500 LB-ft from an ECU retune... just shows its easily capable of being as quick as a 650...

So the cash you can say buying a 540c would cost you 1-2k from DMS to get a 110bhp increase.... not bad if you ask me (regardless of your stance on this)

A friend got his Orange 570s last year and has already put nearly 12k on the clock since (3-4k in europe mountains etc) says its the best thing he's ever bought - he came from a 997.2 C2S PDK before...

[RamboLambo]

mattf93 said:

Probably not, but also when companies such as http://www.dmsautomotive.com/upgrades/mclaren-540-... can get 650 BHP and 500 LB-ft from an ECU retune... just shows its easily capable of being as quick as a 650...

So the cash you can say buying a 540c would cost you 1-2k from DMS to get a 110bhp increase.... not bad if you ask me (regardless of your stance on this)

A friend got his Orange 570s last year and has already put nearly 12k on the clock since (3-4k in europe mountains etc) says its the best thing he's ever bought - he came from a 997.2 C2S PDK before...

But then you could get a DMS tune on a 650S as well.
DMS also want £5k not just a couple of grand

[Davey S2]

RamboLambo said:

mattf93 said:

Probably not, but also when companies such as http://www.dmsautomotive.com/upgrades/mclaren-540-... can get 650 BHP and 500 LB-ft from an ECU retune... just shows its easily capable of being as quick as a 650...

So the cash you can say buying a 540c would cost you 1-2k from DMS to get a 110bhp increase.... not bad if you ask me (regardless of your stance on this)

A friend got his Orange 570s last year and has already put nearly 12k on the clock since (3-4k in europe mountains etc) says its the best thing he's ever bought - he came from a 997.2 C2S PDK before...

But then you could get a DMS tune on a 650S as well.
DMS also want £5k not just a couple of grand

Price difference between 540 and 570 is £17K though so still a cheap way to get a significant power increase.

I still think for a road car 540 ps in a car as light as this is what RR would describe as 'adequate'

[SFO]

Davey S2 said:

Price difference between 540 and 570 is £17K though so still a cheap way to get a significant power increase.

apart from carbon ceramic brakes, forged wheels and extended leather (in total, around £11k of cost options on 540C), what other stuff does the 570S get that is not standard on 540C?

[tyrrell]

Standard exhaust is louder on 570S, different steering rack calibration, suspension re tune on 540C to be a little softer than 570S, rear diffuser has one less strake either side on 540C, exterior trim on 540C is of different finish and quality to the 570 cars, dash and door trim materials are also of a different finish to the 570, there are some others cant remember all of them though.

Edited by tyrrell on Monday 16th January 16:33

[SFO]

tyrrell said:

Standard exhaust is louder on 570S, different steering rack calibration, suspension re tune on 540C to be a little softer than 570S.

steering on 540C less direct?

[tyrrell]

2/3% slower to make it not so darty turning into the corners.

[RamboLambo]

The front splitter on the 540C is some of the cheapest looking matt black plastic I have seen in years. Other than product differentiation Why oh why its not finished in palladium is beyond me, it just looks awful.
The palladium finish is nice and cant be much more expensive to make.

Whilst its fantastic to have lots of carbon, given the price I think I would be happy with palladium on a sports series car

[MOD500]

Front splitter looks fine IMO, should one wish can be made to have slightly gloss finish by applying ceramic sealant. RL - have you driven sports series car yet, you should do Am puzzled by repeated posts firing pot shots when one should get some quality wheel time pre finger + QWERTY interaction

540 just won award:

http://whatcar.com/awards/best-sports-car/2017-win...

Extract from brochure confirming 570 upgrades over 540 (steering rack not mentioned?!):

Power: 570PS (562hp)
Torque: 600NM (443 lb/ft)
Active damping S tune
Uprated standard exhaust
Carbon ceramic brakes
Forged 570S wheels
Pirelli P Zero Corsa tyres
Unique and enhanced aero blades
Unique side blades
Unique and enhanced rear diffuser
570S side skirt branding
Extended leather interior

[Beefmeister]

RamboLambo said:

The front splitter on the 540C is some of the cheapest looking matt black plastic I have seen in years. Other than product differentiation Why oh why its not finished in palladium is beyond me, it just looks awful.
The palladium finish is nice and cant be much more expensive to make.

Whilst its fantastic to have lots of carbon, given the price I think I would be happy with palladium on a sports series car

Come on, you know the answer to this already don't you?

It may only cost £10 more for them to paint it than have it plain, but it's the lowest model, and people can pay hundreds to have it in Palladium/Carbon if they want. So more money for the coffers.

[RamboLambo]

MOD500 said:

Front splitter looks fine IMO, should one wish can be made to have slightly gloss finish by applying ceramic sealant. RL - have you driven sports series car yet, you should do Am puzzled by repeated posts firing pot shots when one should get some quality wheel time pre finger + QWERTY interaction

540 just won award:

http://whatcar.com/awards/best-sports-car/2017-win...

Extract from brochure confirming 570 upgrades over 540 (steering rack not mentioned?!):

Power: 570PS (562hp)
Torque: 600NM (443 lb/ft)
Active damping S tune
Uprated standard exhaust
Carbon ceramic brakes
Forged 570S wheels
Pirelli P Zero Corsa tyres
Unique and enhanced aero blades
Unique side blades
Unique and enhanced rear diffuser
570S side skirt branding
Extended leather interior

Yes I drove a couple of sports series cars 2/3 weeks ago and I was reasonably impressed hence I'm still in conversation with dealers. Its not got the brutal punch of the 650S or the sublime hydraulic suspension but it has some endearing qualities different from the 650S. Would I swap it for the 650S - No way Jose but as a more regular daily driver in addition its a possibility rather than a bland Audi or Porsche.
I'm not taking a pot shot at the car but I do feel even on the entry model 540C a half decent plastic splitter for a car costing £123k is not too much to ask for.
Ok it doesn't effect the drive of the car etc.. but it still doesn't look good IMHO when a regular £10k car from a volume manufacturer has better plastic mouldings. I won't be buying a 540C but that's not to say I wont be buying a sport series car at all