McLaren receives £300m.......

McLaren receives £300m.......

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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Gold encrusted armchair sportsmen driving butt ugly cars? Classy in here.

Rocketreid

631 posts

73 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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av185 said:
The circumstances of sale are largely irrelevant this was a public auction giving a true market value.

That car was nearer £250k list so it was approaching half price not that rrp means much as we all know.

This car was effectively clearly no one off as the similar priced but much newer 2019 low mileage 600LT auctioned simultaneously proves which perhaps of the two was even more of a bargain which now effectively sets the new bar for newish Mclaren residual pricing.

They are undoubtedly great value at this level.

Again the facts concerning the 600lt sale are also deceptive as Collecting cars pulled a fast one on the seller.

So neither are indicative and are one offs imo

av185

18,626 posts

128 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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Rocketreid said:
av185 said:
The circumstances of sale are largely irrelevant this was a public auction giving a true market value.

That car was nearer £250k list so it was approaching half price not that rrp means much as we all know.

This car was effectively clearly no one off as the similar priced but much newer 2019 low mileage 600LT auctioned simultaneously proves which perhaps of the two was even more of a bargain which now effectively sets the new bar for newish Mclaren residual pricing.

They are undoubtedly great value at this level.

Again the facts concerning the 600lt sale are also deceptive as Collecting cars pulled a fast one on the seller.

So neither are indicative and are one offs imo
Doubtful CC would pull a 'fast one' in their infancy in building what is clearly a successful and innovative business platform and customer feedback appears good thus far.

Secondly that 600LT was entered by a dealer not private like the 720S so very unlikely CC auctions would get one over on this vendor with that particular car who would of all people know its true value although perhaps you could explain as to why you think otherwise.

Rocketreid

631 posts

73 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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av185 said:
Doubtful CC would pull a 'fast one' in their infancy in building what is clearly a successful and innovative business platform and customer feedback appears good thus far.

Secondly that 600LT was entered by a dealer not private like the 720S so very unlikely CC auctions would get one over on this vendor with that particular car who would of all people know its true value although perhaps you could explain as to why you think otherwise.
I am afraid you are misinformed on both accounts.

Matty3

1,186 posts

85 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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Yep the 600LT was def privately owned.

av185

18,626 posts

128 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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No matter the market value was unaffected.

Clearly then a legitimate transaction at market value between a willing buyer and seller.


ghost83

5,491 posts

191 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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Rocketreid said:
I am afraid you are misinformed on both accounts.
Care to enlighten how cc pulled a fast one

av185

18,626 posts

128 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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The first listing of the 600LT stated the seller was a dealer.

breadvan

2,011 posts

169 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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ghost83 said:
Rocketreid said:
I am afraid you are misinformed on both accounts.
Care to enlighten how cc pulled a fast one
Plus 1.

Desert Dragon

1,445 posts

85 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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breadvan said:
ghost83 said:
Rocketreid said:
I am afraid you are misinformed on both accounts.
Care to enlighten how cc pulled a fast one
Plus 1.
they sold two mcls for way below mkt value. Put Edward Lovett in jail lol for market manipulation and making a decent living selling motor cars hehe China!

andrew

9,986 posts

193 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Rocketreid said:
So neither are indicative and are one offs imo
so both are one offs ? smile

MclaesLaren

124 posts

94 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Desert Dragon said:
they sold two mcls for way below mkt value. Put Edward Lovett in jail lol for market manipulation and making a decent living selling motor cars hehe China!
Market value is what they are sold at. Brutal fact. Higher price is wishful thinking.

MDL111

6,998 posts

178 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Today’s Bloomberg article doesn’t exactly make for great reading if you are employed by a UK car producer (or somebody in their supply chain)

av185

18,626 posts

128 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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andrew said:
Rocketreid said:
So neither are indicative and are one offs imo
so both are one offs ? smile
Commonly known as two offs.

In other words the clearly established price level.

Cam555

26 posts

50 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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johnnyreggae

2,946 posts

161 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Story is behind paywall - give us a clue !

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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johnnyreggae said:
Story is behind paywall - give us a clue !
"Carmaker McLaren clashes with bondholders over emergency financing"


hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Cheib said:
Juno said:
Looks like they might have a route to further cash required

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/149439/mclaren-c...
That’s a proper “last chance” manouver....not good.
Wow

jhoneyball

1,764 posts

277 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Would that include the car production facility or "just" the HQ?

Lee Jones Jnr

1,724 posts

171 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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It will be a real shame if McLaren die, especially as hardly anyone currently has any experience looking after them outside of the main dealers.