720s New Engine
Discussion
650spider said:
Desert Dragon said:
davek_964 said:
Desert Dragon said:
davek_964 said:
In the real world..... I've sold a couple of Ferrari's in the past that were ~20 years old and not a single person who viewed them asked - or appeared to care less - whether the engine number had changed.
There might indeed be a very small number of concourse people who care but I really don't think most will.
This place gets more bizarre every day. One minute McLaren's are the fastest depreciating thing you can waste your money on - the next, they're future classic investments that would be devalued by not having the original engine.
Unless the OP was planning to stick it in a dehumidified garage for 20+ years, I really can't see it matters. And even then, I don't think the 720 is a rare / special enough car that they would.
I wonder if you'd feel the same if you needed a replacement engine? There might indeed be a very small number of concourse people who care but I really don't think most will.
This place gets more bizarre every day. One minute McLaren's are the fastest depreciating thing you can waste your money on - the next, they're future classic investments that would be devalued by not having the original engine.
Unless the OP was planning to stick it in a dehumidified garage for 20+ years, I really can't see it matters. And even then, I don't think the 720 is a rare / special enough car that they would.
Edited by davek_964 on Wednesday 16th September 13:27
My car has had an entire respray in my ownership. I imagine that would upset the purists just a much. I'm happy that I have an immaculate car, thanks to McLaren.
Pretty sure I'd feel the same if they were handing me a new engine. Would I be annoyed that it needed one and was off the road for several weeks? Absolutely.
But I wouldn't be at all bothered that the engine had been replaced.
Oh - and incidentally - the last Ferrari needed a top end rebuild due to snapped cam actuator a year before I sold it. I made it clear in the advert that it had needed a top end rebuild and why.
And you know what - it still sold pretty easily. Amazing eh?
Edited by davek_964 on Thursday 17th September 06:55
I would be more than happy buying a mac with a brand new engine.
Desert Dragon said:
Or is t going to be a black is white day on the Mcl forum? Next someone will be telling us that a Mac with replacement engine is worth more!
Or, most likely, somebody whom doesn't own a mac shall make 'concerned' posts about things mac owners wouldn't actually be bothered about....Who knows?
650spider said:
Desert Dragon said:
Or is t going to be a black is white day on the Mcl forum? Next someone will be telling us that a Mac with replacement engine is worth more!
Or, most likely, somebody whom doesn't own a mac shall make 'concerned' posts about things mac owners wouldn't actually be bothered about....Who knows?
650spider said:
Desert Dragon said:
Or is t going to be a black is white day on the Mcl forum? Next someone will be telling us that a Mac with replacement engine is worth more!
Or, most likely, somebody whom doesn't own a mac shall make 'concerned' posts about things mac owners wouldn't actually be bothered about....Who knows?
davek_964 said:
Desert Dragon said:
Good to know but great majority of used cars buyers all regard a Mac as a special chase and want provenance perfect.
Based on what? Who - other than you - says that McLaren buyers care more about that than Ferrari / Lambo etc?Desert Dragon said:
650spider said:
Desert Dragon said:
Or is t going to be a black is white day on the Mcl forum? Next someone will be telling us that a Mac with replacement engine is worth more!
Or, most likely, somebody whom doesn't own a mac shall make 'concerned' posts about things mac owners wouldn't actually be bothered about....Who knows?
650spider said:
Desert Dragon said:
650spider said:
Desert Dragon said:
Or is t going to be a black is white day on the Mcl forum? Next someone will be telling us that a Mac with replacement engine is worth more!
Or, most likely, somebody whom doesn't own a mac shall make 'concerned' posts about things mac owners wouldn't actually be bothered about....Who knows?
My point was not that „matching numbers“ is not important - it is for a collectible classic car as it adds to its provenance and hence value. My point was that a McLaren 720 will never be collectible or concur material even 20+ years from now. Too many build and never really in short supply.
650spider said:
BadBull said:
Love these threads.
McLaren engines are bullet proof.
McLarens are collectors items.
Comedy gold.
Please do direct us to a thread you have started or made any sort of worthwhile contribution to....McLaren engines are bullet proof.
McLarens are collectors items.
Comedy gold.
What a ridiculous attempt at deflection. 
You belittle my posting by posting personal slights against me.
Brilliant! No self awareness whatsoever!No wonder you lot have the reputation you do.
I'll leave you to it.
BadBull said:
Love these threads.
McLaren engines are bullet proof.
McLarens are collectors items.
Comedy gold.
I was causally reading this and almost spat my tea out at matching numbers. Almost every GT3 has had a new engine. Matching numbers has absolutely no relevance to a Mclaren. As soon as they are to old for Mclaren to put a warranty on them they are pretty much scrap. I can't forsee a time when anything other than the cooking variants will be in any way sought after. Matching numbers. Jesus. McLaren engines are bullet proof.
McLarens are collectors items.
Comedy gold.
Desert Dragon said:
I disagree. All Mcls are low volume exotic cars. Whilst not being matching numbers wouldn't put me off I'd definitely like a Mac with original engine if buying today. The 991.1 GT3 does not sell well speaking to indys I know well. They hang around a long long time.
Absoltuley nothing to do with the engines it's over production and poor spec with the Pork stuff. Has any single person on here that's bought a used McLaren specifically asked if the car is on it's original engine?
Some people might own cars that aren't on the original engine right now and have no idea. They aren't £250k RS Porsches they are modern exotic white goods!
Keepingitsimple said:
Desert Dragon said:
Good point with 991.1 GT3. Doesn't seem to have effected values at all which I am slightly surprised by.
Did the GT3 not get a very extended engine warranty with the new engine?I had an engine failure in a Lotus Exige a few years ago, Lotus offered to replace the engine I told them to keep it for this very reason.
sone said:
Keepingitsimple said:
Desert Dragon said:
Good point with 991.1 GT3. Doesn't seem to have effected values at all which I am slightly surprised by.
Did the GT3 not get a very extended engine warranty with the new engine?I had an engine failure in a Lotus Exige a few years ago, Lotus offered to replace the engine I told them to keep it for this very reason.
I wouldn't be surprised if the engine supply deal with Ricardo is that if there is a failure during the warranty period, McLaren won't dirty their hands repairing it but they will expect Ricardo to send out a replacement, similar to Graziano with the gearboxes.
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