First McLaren?

[Pioneer]

Not corrosion. Appears the same but is a chemical reaction between paint and prep used on panels. Covered under warranty and McL have sorted it with all cars affected (which was most!). On the upside, you get a fresh manufacture paint job on a pre-owned car. McL seemed to get their act together 2018 so anything from that point on is a good bet. Go in eyes open that these are hand-built and they haven't been building them that long. Most issues will not leave you broken down at the roadside. It's niggly things like windows bouncing, Iris freezing etc. All would be sorted under McL warranty. They're keen to change the public image and in my experience are making a concerted effort to keep current owners in the brand.

[Dr Interceptor]

My sensible every day car is a Mustang, and even they have issues with paint bubbles on the aluminium panels (bonnet mainly), but again all usually sorted under warranty. If Ford can have problems painting cars when they build so many, anyone can.

[drcarrera]

speedick said:

My twopennyworth

The 570 is a great looking, great performing, well designed and (relatively) well engineered car .... especially when the price point is taken into consideration S/H.

BUT

My personal experience when looking (at 6 cars in total - youngest an '18 plate) was that they all have either had (or will probably have) issues with corrosion. It was 6 of 6 in the ones I went to view. Admittedly, some do not seen to suffer .... but I do wonder if they have ever been wet or it's just not surfaced yet.

In their defence, Mclaren seem to be very good a dealing with the problem. But quite a few have had several visits to the bodyshop for different panels to be sorted.

I eventually bought a 12c (which can also have problems - though it seems less frequently). If I had to buy another 'Mac (& I certainly would) it would be a 650 or a (budget stretching) 720

Edited by speedick on Thursday 1st July 22:16

Edited by speedick on Thursday 1st July 22:17

I just bought a 2018 570 and it had "corrosion" inside one wheelarch which TBH I don't think I'd have spotted had the dealer not pointed it out.
That and some other minor blemishes meant I had new doors, front wings and front bumper all replaced before I got the car. The "corrosion" issue would, I'm sure, be sorted by McLaren anyway but not sure how much of the other stuff would be done if not having bought from a Mac dealer.

[R8Reece]

Worth noting that for the 12C, the corrosion warranty is approaching its end of life - think it's either 10 or 12 years?

However my understanding is once the panel is repaired (assuming it's resprayed), the panel issue shouldn't re-occur - have I got that right?

[Dr Interceptor]

Well it's not delivery day today, its now going to be next week. The service has been completed, but the car still needs an MOT, valet, and they want to put it through their workshop to inspect it...

Hopefully Monday, but shouldn't be any later than Tuesday.

Slightly annoyed as I'd planned a trip out in it on Sunday, and I don't cope well with a change in plans, once I have a plan I like to see it through.

[Smoothound]

Surely they would inspect it as part of the service?

[Streetbeat]

I would very much recommend you get a Mclaren dealer to do the mpi inspection at circa 300 quid, even at your expense, i would NOT be buying a Mclaren that was not either covered by pre existing Mclaren warranty or had a Mclaren mpi inspection for the warranty (even if you dont take it out), i am afraid there is no way i would rely on the word of a, lets say, garage with a dubious history to be giving it the all clear.

Edited by Streetbeat on Sunday 4th July 10:02

[Dr Interceptor]

It has just had a Mclaren service, and I have a copy of their service/inspection/condition report. All I think they are doing is effectively a PDI.

As soon as it arrives it will be going on my own four poster ramp up in the air, and I will be giving it the once over for my own peace of mind.

Hopefully some news around lunch time on delivery.

[speedick]

R8Reece said:

Worth noting that for the 12C, the corrosion warranty is approaching its end of life - think it's either 10 or 12 years?

However my understanding is once the panel is repaired (assuming it's resprayed), the panel issue shouldn't re-occur - have I got that right?

The 570 has metal panels - the Mc "repair" is a complete replacement and re paint to match. Methinks you could be pretty certain that the fix is permanent. Problem is that ALL the original panels on the car have the problem primer / paint / metal spec - so how long before some others need doing ?.

The 12c is a different proposition. The main body panels are a composite material (not metal) and the "corrosion" is truly not that - more of a water ingress / paint adhesion / bubbling problem as I understand it. This being said, the bonnet is aluminium as are the door bottoms and both of these can fill with water when you wash the car and sit wet for quite some time afterwards - even in a dry garage. Bubbling paint is not uncommon here either.

[speedick]

Dr Interceptor said:

It has just had a Mclaren service, and I have a copy of their service/inspection/condition report. All I think they are doing is effectively a PDI.

As soon as it arrives it will be going on my own four poster ramp up in the air, and I will be giving it the once over for my own peace of mind.

Hopefully some news around lunch time on delivery.

Sounds like you're fully "on it". There's not really any potential faults that a good (well informed) once over wont reveal - give it a good dose of looking at and if you're satisfied sit back and look forward to a truly stunning supercar ownership experience.

[Dr Interceptor]

Just had the call and its all done... Delivery in the morning which will be hellish, as it means I'll have to sit at my desk at work all day gazing longingly out of the window at it.

[Dr Interceptor]

Well the morning came and went, then the next 2pm to 3pm delivery window came and went… Then 5pm locking up
time at work came and went, and finally at 7.30pm this beauty arrived at work…

[Pheedbak]

Nice Congrats!

[CABC]

are you off to the Historic in October? GoEspanha have a supercar trip from uk for that which takes in a track day at Guadix on the way down. a great way to explore the new car.

[Dr Interceptor]

CABC said:

are you off to the Historic in October? GoEspanha have a supercar trip from uk for that which takes in a track day at Guadix on the way down. a great way to explore the new car.

That’s the plan… I have a place just the other side of Lagos, so it’s only a 15 minute run up to the circuit.

I’ll likely make my own way down… most tours seem to take an age to get there! But it you have a link, let me know.

[CABC]

https://driveespana.com

I've never been with them, but the Guadix track always appealed, along with a social trip down.
I'm Ferragudo area mostly during winter. I'll miss this year's historic but I'll ping you next year.

[Dr Interceptor]

Cheers for that, interesting but I will likely make my own way down… looking to go mid October to mid November… I normally stay out there until January but have my mums 70th birthday to organise and get back for in December.

I might even leave the car in the garage and fly back, then fly out there again to bring the car home in January.

[CABC]

Dr, interested to hear your views of the 'Stang in light of your ownership of the McL. Confirmation bias from people owning one car is understandable, so it's always good to hear from owners with variety in their ownership. I've wondered about getting one for some comfort touring and that flat plane crank V8 but wondered whether I'd tire of the rest of the car.

[justin220]

CABC said:

Dr, interested to hear your views of the 'Stang in light of your ownership of the McL. Confirmation bias from people owning one car is understandable, so it's always good to hear from owners with variety in their ownership. I've wondered about getting one for some comfort touring and that flat plane crank V8 but wondered whether I'd tire of the rest of the car.

I haven't owned a Mustang, but my brother did. I was very impressed. I'll be honest, I preferred it to my V8 Vantage at the time.

Lovely sound, great to cruise and waft about it. It's not really something you would fling down a back road through. Completely different proposition to a McLaren, in fact I would say they would work well together as they are so different.

[Dr Interceptor]

CABC said:

Dr, interested to hear your views of the 'Stang in light of your ownership of the McL. Confirmation bias from people owning one car is understandable, so it's always good to hear from owners with variety in their ownership. I've wondered about getting one for some comfort touring and that flat plane crank V8 but wondered whether I'd tire of the rest of the car.

The Mustang is a great car… I’ve driven my 2019 GT to Portugal and back twice, and there aren’t many cars I can think of that have quite so many tricks up it’s sleeve.

The Big V8 never feels as powerful as it actually is, until you get it right up over 4500rpm, then it flies. It’s really long geared which makes it great for cruising on the motorway - 3000 rpm comes up in 6th at 115mph.

When you get it in a back road it doesn’t all go entirely to st either. It’s not a Lotus or McLaren, but makes a good job of getting along the twisty bits.

Interior is good in my view… big an comfortable, good hvac, good stereo, and radar cruise works well also. CarPlay means you have Spotify/Waze on the centre screen too.

They are no good on a track though… 10-15 minutes (or around 4-5 laps of Portimao) and you cook the diff.

I’d recommend taking one out