Stick or twist, 650s

Stick or twist, 650s

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Streetbeat

912 posts

78 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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br d said:
Yeah that's a fair point but at least the Senna has been repaired back to it's original condition, that dropped door on the 675 is just ridiculous.
I dont disagree at all, just a lot of hypocrisy spouted about it wouldnt bother certain folk buying Schmees car as it was priced accordingly, yet this one, which no one actually seems to know the full facts of the damage or subsequent repairs and they wouldnt touch it with a barge pole. Ive seen non crashed cars with shocking door alignment.

A trip to V or Thorney for a thorough investigation and if anythings found, reject it, if not youve got a bargain.



Bispal

1,623 posts

153 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Streetbeat said:
br d said:
Yeah that's a fair point but at least the Senna has been repaired back to it's original condition, that dropped door on the 675 is just ridiculous.
I dont disagree at all, just a lot of hypocrisy spouted about it wouldnt bother certain folk buying Schmees car as it was priced accordingly, yet this one, which no one actually seems to know the full facts of the damage or subsequent repairs and they wouldnt touch it with a barge pole. Ive seen non crashed cars with shocking door alignment.

A trip to V or Thorney for a thorough investigation and if anythings found, reject it, if not youve got a bargain.
Tim's damage was very minor and fully documented.
The 675LT sustained a crash on track (Ascari), at speed that was kept out of records, out of insurance database and off social media. Those that know about the damage continue to warn potential buyers but obviously the car is for sale and is 'owned' so no-one can go into specifics as the posts will be removed. If the damage was minor why not share details publicly like Tim did? Its only hidden as there is something to hide. Call the dealer and ask for photos of the damage if you are interested?





HighwayStar

4,363 posts

146 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Bispal said:
Streetbeat said:
br d said:
Yeah that's a fair point but at least the Senna has been repaired back to it's original condition, that dropped door on the 675 is just ridiculous.
I dont disagree at all, just a lot of hypocrisy spouted about it wouldnt bother certain folk buying Schmees car as it was priced accordingly, yet this one, which no one actually seems to know the full facts of the damage or subsequent repairs and they wouldnt touch it with a barge pole. Ive seen non crashed cars with shocking door alignment.

A trip to V or Thorney for a thorough investigation and if anythings found, reject it, if not youve got a bargain.
Tim's damage was very minor and fully documented.
The 675LT sustained a crash on track (Ascari), at speed that was kept out of records, out of insurance database and off social media. Those that know about the damage continue to warn potential buyers but obviously the car is for sale and is 'owned' so no-one can go into specifics as the posts will be removed. If the damage was minor why not share details publicly like Tim did? Its only hidden as there is something to hide. Call the dealer and ask for photos of the damage if you are interested?
Schmee’s Senna was damage by a lorry scraping along the drivers side of the car while he was in traffic on the M25. Panel and door damage. The car was fully repaired at Mclaren. There is no mystery about what happened to his car. He was totally open and honest about it, videos on YouTube showing the car moments after it happened. Unlike the 675LT, it’s history is shady at best.

Streetbeat

912 posts

78 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Bispal said:
Those that know about the damage continue to warn potential buyers but obviously the car is for sale and is 'owned' so no-one can go into specifics as the posts will be removed.
Nonsense, you are perfectly within your rights to accurately and factually state the damage, what youre not entitled to do is speculate or mislead anyone, which you will not be if you ACTUALLY know.

Wheelspinning

1,251 posts

32 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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HighwayStar said:
Bispal said:
Streetbeat said:
br d said:
Yeah that's a fair point but at least the Senna has been repaired back to it's original condition, that dropped door on the 675 is just ridiculous.
I dont disagree at all, just a lot of hypocrisy spouted about it wouldnt bother certain folk buying Schmees car as it was priced accordingly, yet this one, which no one actually seems to know the full facts of the damage or subsequent repairs and they wouldnt touch it with a barge pole. Ive seen non crashed cars with shocking door alignment.

A trip to V or Thorney for a thorough investigation and if anythings found, reject it, if not youve got a bargain.
Tim's damage was very minor and fully documented.
The 675LT sustained a crash on track (Ascari), at speed that was kept out of records, out of insurance database and off social media. Those that know about the damage continue to warn potential buyers but obviously the car is for sale and is 'owned' so no-one can go into specifics as the posts will be removed. If the damage was minor why not share details publicly like Tim did? Its only hidden as there is something to hide. Call the dealer and ask for photos of the damage if you are interested?
Schmee’s Senna was damage by a lorry scraping along the drivers side of the car while he was in traffic on the M25. Panel and door damage. The car was fully repaired at Mclaren. There is no mystery about what happened to his car. He was totally open and honest about it, videos on YouTube showing the car moments after it happened. Unlike the 675LT, it’s history is shady at best.
So of the 6 x 675LT spiders for sale, one has had a hard crash and a poor repair, one has supposedly had a mileage blocker on it with euro hoon pics indicating low mileage showing is impossible, one has had an engine replaced due to it being modified and the other is an import.

All 4 cars unable to have the McLaren warranty on them.

It's a minefield out there, especially when a main dealer is selling one of them.

If your buying one, it has to be via Alastair Bols or the MOC.


ghost83

5,492 posts

192 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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What’s the deal with the 675lt with roof scoop at 189k

That seems a lot cheaper than the others to say it’s got the scoop

Nuttbelle

537 posts

12 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Wheelspinning said:
So of the 6 x 675LT spiders for sale, one has had a hard crash and a poor repair, one has supposedly had a mileage blocker on it with euro hoon pics indicating low mileage showing is impossible, one has had an engine replaced due to it being modified and the other is an import.

All 4 cars unable to have the McLaren warranty on them.

It's a minefield out there, especially when a main dealer is selling one of them.

If your buying one, it has to be via Alastair Bols or the MOC.
Is the mileage blocker one the tacky white one that's been punted around everywhere and reduced by £40k.
Seen the European you tube videos of that one being ragged around as well as it wearing different tyres so mileage definitely doesn't stack up on that car

Streetbeat

912 posts

78 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Nuttbelle said:
Wheelspinning said:
So of the 6 x 675LT spiders for sale, one has had a hard crash and a poor repair, one has supposedly had a mileage blocker on it with euro hoon pics indicating low mileage showing is impossible, one has had an engine replaced due to it being modified and the other is an import.

All 4 cars unable to have the McLaren warranty on them.

It's a minefield out there, especially when a main dealer is selling one of them.

If your buying one, it has to be via Alastair Bols or the MOC.
Is the mileage blocker one the tacky white one that's been punted around everywhere and reduced by £40k.
Seen the European you tube videos of that one being ragged around as well as it wearing different tyres so mileage definitely doesn't stack up on that car
Im sure a main dealer will have to give a warranty, hard crash...please detail.

There is an mso sapphire black coupe at £189k.


Edited by Streetbeat on Sunday 12th November 11:05

Nuttbelle

537 posts

12 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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ghost83 said:
What’s the deal with the 675lt with roof scoop at 189k

That seems a lot cheaper than the others to say it’s got the scoop
Black, 37k miles and comfort seats all don't help

Wheelspinning

1,251 posts

32 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Streetbeat said:
Nuttbelle said:
Wheelspinning said:
So of the 6 x 675LT spiders for sale, one has had a hard crash and a poor repair, one has supposedly had a mileage blocker on it with euro hoon pics indicating low mileage showing is impossible, one has had an engine replaced due to it being modified and the other is an import.

All 4 cars unable to have the McLaren warranty on them.

It's a minefield out there, especially when a main dealer is selling one of them.

If your buying one, it has to be via Alastair Bols or the MOC.
Is the mileage blocker one the tacky white one that's been punted around everywhere and reduced by £40k.
Seen the European you tube videos of that one being ragged around as well as it wearing different tyres so mileage definitely doesn't stack up on that car
Im sure a main dealer will have to give a warranty, hard crash...please detail.

There is an mso sapphire black coupe at £189k.


Edited by Streetbeat on Sunday 12th November 11:05
The black roof scoop is one owner and as recently as 3 years ago deemed as the roughest 675 out there by a country mile by someone who knows the most about 675s.

It may have been tidied up and the bonded on cameras removed now, but in my experience, once a dog always a dog.

That car wasn't included in one of the 4, as being pretty rough isn't really a worthy story, and may well be in a good enough shape for a mclaren warranty now.

Mclaren warranties at that age are provided by a third party now; car care if I recall, and they are getting tighter on claims.

When out of the warranty, to reapply the car has to be inspected very thoroughly, and I would imagine if a vehicle has been involved in a reasonable impact with no claim, but either evidence of poor repairs or indeed knowledge of this alleged repair, I think they would have to inform or any relevant claim denied, or indeed the policy cancelled.

Personally, you would be nuts to spend that amount on a car that has got a back story.

The McLaren world is small, and the 675 world tiny.

Trying to resell would be very, very hard; just have a look how hard it is for the main dealer.

Schmees Senna is a corker with a very well documented minor damage 1st class repair, but that's tainted forever also.

It is unfortunate, as almost every 250gto has been bent at some point but that matters not a jot.

Streetbeat

912 posts

78 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Wheelspinning said:
Personally, you would be nuts to spend that amount on a car that has got a back story.
Not being antagonistic, ive not heard a "story", there has been no details, just a sweeping statement with absolutely no details and then some poor attempt to not answer the question by claiming details cant be posted.......seems ironic that Schmees Senna can be discussed even with pictures.

I think the truth is, no one on here actually knows what happned to this 675, just something. Granted the door alignment is poor, but it doesnt mean the car has structural damage.

HIS LM

1,298 posts

261 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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The black roof scoop is one owner and as recently as 3 years ago deemed as the roughest 675 out there by a country mile by someone who knows the most about 675s.

Is that you ? not calling you out just want to know who to speak to about the grey 675 at Mc New Forest

Edited by HIS LM on Sunday 12th November 18:29

Griffith4ever

4,398 posts

37 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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OP if you like,drop me a pm so we can exchange emails if you are serious about selling. If it's the right spec and colour I could well be interested. 20k miles is about my max but your price is about right for that, privately. I'm away for a month so no rush but.. You never know. (spider? That's what I'm after)

Edited by Griffith4ever on Sunday 12th November 19:20

Wheelspinning

1,251 posts

32 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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The huge difference is that schmees Senna is fully documented on his social media of before damage, immediately after damage, during repair and upon completion and even detailing the insurance claim cost.

That's why it can be discussed freely and openly on a forum.

Other cars that have had a decent shunt that have not been subject to a claim but repaired to a questionable standard then being sold without disclosure by a main dealer with a well paid legal team behind them, is an altogether different matter.

When something is far too cheap, it's always for a reason.

As I said before, the 675 world is tiny; ask a few well known McLaren specialists if they know of any current 675s that are for sale with a 'history'.

For the doubters, take advantage and go and buy a very, very high spec car for 25% for below the current already deflated market value as somehow the main dealer does not realise the error in the asking price and feel chuffed you got a 'bargain'.