The El Chapo Mclaren F1 - Mr Clarkes F1 LM Harrods 06R

[MrBig]

CharlesElliott said:

M505 YRN is registered as a GTR, but first registered 1st August 2020, manufactured 1995. First MOT was on 20th March 2020 and no MOT history before that. Am not sure how is was MOTd before it was registered? Or was that MOT actually an IVA type test to register it?

P440 CPJ is registered as an F1 (not GTR), first registered 18 December 1996, manufactured Dec 1996. MOT 8th April 2020 and extensive MOT history before that.

It seems a bit strange that 'both' cars were MOTd in 2020....if they are really the same car?

Edited by CharlesElliott on Thursday 11th March 07:55

Almost like the Mexican car is the rightful 'owner' of P440CPJ and the new owner of the UK car has decided to get it registered properly...

Either way, I'm enjoying the story.

[CharlesElliott]

MrBig said:

Almost like the Mexican car is the rightful 'owner' of P440CPJ and the new owner of the UK car has decided to get it registered properly...

Either way, I'm enjoying the story.

Yes, I agree that that's what it looks like.

[vaderface]

Slightly OT, but is there 2 other different F1,s with the same plate?
Watching the 20th anniversary vid on YouTube and there appears to be 2 with same plate.
Ex Bagnalls HDF and a " normal" road car.
Or are they just show plates?

[NoBrakesWC]

MrBig said:

Almost like the Mexican car is the rightful 'owner' of P440CPJ and the new owner of the UK car has decided to get it registered properly...

Either way, I'm enjoying the story.

Two months late but oh well.

I think all that happened is the F1 got exported to Mexico and the Reg got sent back to the DVLA. When the GTR got made road legal they just assigned the P reg to it.

[thecremeegg]

Found this thread googling the Harrods McLaren F1 car as I just watched this video of it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI968Oxcz-U
Might help you guys out?

[DOCG]

Considering that P440 CPJ has not had an MOT test since 2020, it seems even more likely that the Harrod's car was falsely using the number plate until 2020, but then the car changed ownership and was properly registered for the first time.

M505 YRN does not come up with any results on the MOT database, so it appears the numberplate has since been changed. Is there away to find out the current numberplate of a car through the original numberplate it was registered with?

[bryn_p]

PAUL500 said:

Its only a matter of time before DVLA revoke the V55s of both registrations, and tell the registered keeper/s to submit their car/s for inspection.

Way too much inconsistency and evidence online of the car wearing the wrong plate, and being taxed/insured/ MOT'd for many many years on that plate, when the actual car assigned that number left these shores a long time ago.

Huge can of worms.

Never going to happen, even if the DVLA were aware, you are giving them a lot of credit thinking that they might actually do something about it
It's done, the previous owner got away with it and now the car is legit with a proper registration. I'm not even sure what the criminal offence would be as it's not like it was a stolen car on false plates - some kind of fraud or misrepresentation maybe?

As has been said before, the most surprising thing is someone doing it so blatantly on such a high profile car. I mean it'd be hard to choose a car that's more likely for something like this to get noticed

[PAUL.S.]

The Harrods car has now been correctly first registered and is now owned by a well known collector of such cars, who recently acquired a rather valuable Ferrari P car for the collection.

However the Mexican plate last time I checked was now under a UK sorn, the previous owner of the Harrods car as has been noted is also very well known and every man and his dog knew it was running a plate on the road not associated with the actual car.

Edited by PAUL.S. on Tuesday 24th October 10:13