Discussion
S1MMA said:
Nice one, living the dream.
Liking the Pork collection also, I have a GT3 for my sins also and can't see it going any time soon. How does the P1 compare in terms of raw feel and connection?
Thanks! I love 911's!Liking the Pork collection also, I have a GT3 for my sins also and can't see it going any time soon. How does the P1 compare in terms of raw feel and connection?
TBH I have no idea, I've driven it out of the showroom and about 20 feet to the truck where I let the delivery guy take over, he had to crawl out of the window once the car was in the lorry as they couldn't open the doors ( I was a bit surprised they didn't use a winch)
Anyway I'll be behind the wheel soon and will let you know. I'm a big fan of the 997 RS which with is hard as F (particularly with KW's) so be interesting to see. I expect another dimension in performance and hopefully just as connected
The spaceship/racecar interior blows my mind, the carbon tub has to be the coolest thing about Mclarens and you feel really cocooned in the P1.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
the guy with the P1 & GTR thinks his 918 is better. As I think Flemke does.......
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Considered a 918 very carefully, its epic, but for me the looks don't take the game forward in the way the P1's does, and even with 900+HP I expect 4WD still takes some of the fear away!{
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Still loving my P1 and no plans to sell it, no other car comes close to the looks, thrill to drive and general sense of occasion
Has cost me hardly anything to run in past couple of years, other than insurance, and hybrid system still working perfectly
Only issue is it makes all other supercars look and feel very ordinary
Has cost me hardly anything to run in past couple of years, other than insurance, and hybrid system still working perfectly
Only issue is it makes all other supercars look and feel very ordinary
Would add that I don't understand the concern ref batteries on these Hybrid Hypercars, its what makes them sensational to drive, with all the noise and drama of an IC engine combined with the wall of torque from the electric system.
If the batteries do fail, you replace the batteries at what 5% of the value of the car? No big deal
Personally I'm hoping we never see cars like the P1, La Ferrari and 918 again. They will stand out in the future as marvels of technology in their time, mixing old and new to create something unique and thrilling.
flemke said:
Although I have not yet driven a P15, I think I have a pretty good idea of what it will be like. On that basis, I think it would be more accurate to say that it would be a different experience from the P1, rather than not even half the experience of the P1.
The P1 looks about a hundred times better, and that is part of the experience. It's also more complex (apart from the aero), and that is another part of the experience. Some people might prefer all the P1's hissing and wheezing (although I found them annoying), and those sounds are definitely another part of the experience.
On the other hand, the P1 was only the second model that McLaren made, and the fact that McLaren were still learning how to design user interfaces was pretty obvious. The P15 is another four models on from the P1, and McLaren are starting to figure it out.
For me, the main difference will be weight. The P1 was simply too heavy to be a good track car, and of course weight is noticeable on the road too. Lateral grip and braking distances should be an order of magnitude better in the P15 than they were in the P1. They tell me that steering and brake feel are improved as well.
In next week's Autocar Matt Prior will write about his first drive in a P15. He is a big fan of the P1, and I would expect him to reference that benchmark in his article.
It's a horses-for-courses thing. The hybrid feature was a core element of the P1 concept. For some people the hybrid feature added to the P1 experience, but for others of us it detracted from it. Apart from looks, the P15 is what I was hoping the P1 would be, but wasn't.
All fair and rational comments for sure, I think mainly I just can’t stand the look of the P15, it hurts my eyes! But good for them for trying something so unconventionalThe P1 looks about a hundred times better, and that is part of the experience. It's also more complex (apart from the aero), and that is another part of the experience. Some people might prefer all the P1's hissing and wheezing (although I found them annoying), and those sounds are definitely another part of the experience.
On the other hand, the P1 was only the second model that McLaren made, and the fact that McLaren were still learning how to design user interfaces was pretty obvious. The P15 is another four models on from the P1, and McLaren are starting to figure it out.
For me, the main difference will be weight. The P1 was simply too heavy to be a good track car, and of course weight is noticeable on the road too. Lateral grip and braking distances should be an order of magnitude better in the P15 than they were in the P1. They tell me that steering and brake feel are improved as well.
In next week's Autocar Matt Prior will write about his first drive in a P15. He is a big fan of the P1, and I would expect him to reference that benchmark in his article.
It's a horses-for-courses thing. The hybrid feature was a core element of the P1 concept. For some people the hybrid feature added to the P1 experience, but for others of us it detracted from it. Apart from looks, the P15 is what I was hoping the P1 would be, but wasn't.
I’m sure it will be a hoot to drive
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