765LT viewing & pics
Discussion
I had a private viewing of the 765LT last week. I spent almost 3 hours with, and discussing, the car.
Short version: 765LT is stunning in the carbon, and spending proper time with it “alone” in a quiet showroom environment let’s you appreciate the details more and more as you inspect it. It is stunning, especially from the view other road users will see - the rear.
Shane Harman & team have done a stellar job with the car (really nice guy btw). It is clear that they made every sensible performance enhancement they could, whilst keeping the cost reasonable as a super series car.
The things that looked odd in pictures look great in the carbon eg rear CF blades.
Basically 720S reaction again, as often with McLarens, where the more you see the design, the more you grow to love it.
Speaking with Shane and others at McLaren who have driven it, it is clear there was a huge focus on visceral feel and emotion when driving the car.
I won’t repeat the press release information as there is no point. I didn’t bother discuss that known information anyway.
The interior looks very different from 720S just because of the Senna seats, which work much better in 720S than 600LT. Super comfortable as in the Senna. I’d certainly have those.
Louvres are aesthetically essential in my opinion.
Roof scoop on a coupe is a must-have as it transforms the look of the car, in my opinion.
I love that rear wing. Looks very purposeful & noticeably bigger.
There are misconceptions about the weight. I can confirm that McLaren compared standard 765LT to standard 720S weights, to calculate the 80kg saving. I have a full breakdown. This is great because it means a 765LT optioned with additional weight saving options will be even lighter, and save far more than 80kg (vs a standard 720S).
Note that the rear wing is in the fully lowered position in all my pics. When raised, it obscures a lot of the rear view. With airbrake deployed, there is zero rear visibility. It’s a very aggressive wing.
Short version: 765LT is stunning in the carbon, and spending proper time with it “alone” in a quiet showroom environment let’s you appreciate the details more and more as you inspect it. It is stunning, especially from the view other road users will see - the rear.
Shane Harman & team have done a stellar job with the car (really nice guy btw). It is clear that they made every sensible performance enhancement they could, whilst keeping the cost reasonable as a super series car.
The things that looked odd in pictures look great in the carbon eg rear CF blades.
Basically 720S reaction again, as often with McLarens, where the more you see the design, the more you grow to love it.
Speaking with Shane and others at McLaren who have driven it, it is clear there was a huge focus on visceral feel and emotion when driving the car.
I won’t repeat the press release information as there is no point. I didn’t bother discuss that known information anyway.
The interior looks very different from 720S just because of the Senna seats, which work much better in 720S than 600LT. Super comfortable as in the Senna. I’d certainly have those.
Louvres are aesthetically essential in my opinion.
Roof scoop on a coupe is a must-have as it transforms the look of the car, in my opinion.
I love that rear wing. Looks very purposeful & noticeably bigger.
There are misconceptions about the weight. I can confirm that McLaren compared standard 765LT to standard 720S weights, to calculate the 80kg saving. I have a full breakdown. This is great because it means a 765LT optioned with additional weight saving options will be even lighter, and save far more than 80kg (vs a standard 720S).
Note that the rear wing is in the fully lowered position in all my pics. When raised, it obscures a lot of the rear view. With airbrake deployed, there is zero rear visibility. It’s a very aggressive wing.
Edited by LotusJas on Sunday 8th March 20:43
Rocketreid said:
No doubt a stellar car and the aero will be imo be the piece de resistance.
Although from a weight perspective a 720S will come in at under 1,283 kg dry and light with the 765LT dry and light at 1,229. Splitting hairs maybe but the precise difference is 54kg, although we know of course people add weight with the options list.
It is on track where this car will be at its best as a rapier with power likely to be over 800bhp and all that downforce. Can’t see any road car other than a Senna coming close .
It is genuinely 80kg less than 720S, standard car to standard car. I've got the full breakdown in fact. They reduced it by 85kg in fact, but added back 5kg with the Senna calipers and double fuel pumps.Although from a weight perspective a 720S will come in at under 1,283 kg dry and light with the 765LT dry and light at 1,229. Splitting hairs maybe but the precise difference is 54kg, although we know of course people add weight with the options list.
It is on track where this car will be at its best as a rapier with power likely to be over 800bhp and all that downforce. Can’t see any road car other than a Senna coming close .
That's real DIN weights (not dry weights, as some manufacturers use).
You can of course save even more weight by opting for pricey options like Senna seats.
It should out-accelerate a Senna all the way to top speed. But a Senna will be quicker on any fast track where downforce plays more of a role.
SSO said:
The Senna seats do look good in the LT Coupe. How hard are they to get in an out of in a 765? Same as the Senna?
Yes, exactly the same as Senna. And sitting in them in Senna and 765LT feels identical, and right.Getting in and out of 600LT with Senna seats is noticeably more awkward.
The LMP style doors on Senna and 765LT make the difference in ingress/egress, and the more open cabin suits them better too.
I found them very comfortable, although standard 720S seats are of course more comfortable. To make sure I'd really need to sit in them for hours though, in a moving car.
If for road trip usage, I actually think the 720S is the far better car. The 765LT will be more of an occasion to drive, but has more NVH.
Regarding the weights discussion above, I can confirm that the 80kg saving is DIN weights, and compares the standard (not lightest) versions of 720S and 765LT. Both models can of course be optioned further to make them lighter (or heavier).
Regarding the weights discussion above, I can confirm that the 80kg saving is DIN weights, and compares the standard (not lightest) versions of 720S and 765LT. Both models can of course be optioned further to make them lighter (or heavier).
I can only say that that is not what McLaren HQ told me, face to face, at a senior level. i.e. that DIN weight of 720S (and 765LT) as stated is not the lightest, but is the standard car. I then separately verified that statement with an senior engineer at McLaren HQ.
I believe that far more than internet arguments/opinions.
Particularly as if it were not so, it would be a material misstatement of a defined measurement to European standards.
Now as regards dry weight, absolutely anything is possible. The weights could be comparing apples to oranges, and any spec combinations, including lightest possible (which is likely). Because there is no standard defining calculation of dry weight.
I believe that far more than internet arguments/opinions.
Particularly as if it were not so, it would be a material misstatement of a defined measurement to European standards.
Now as regards dry weight, absolutely anything is possible. The weights could be comparing apples to oranges, and any spec combinations, including lightest possible (which is likely). Because there is no standard defining calculation of dry weight.
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