EV Charger Cable Protection

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anonymous-user

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56 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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My company PHEV lives on the road due to a Porsche and campervan taking up space on the drive.

I have a wall box with 7m cable coming as soon as customs release it, so I've been looking at solutions to run the cable 1.5m over the pavement.

I have a rubber cable channel, but I'm not 100% happy with it.

What solutions are others using? - I'm thinking the kind of cable ramp you see at festivals etc - black plastic ramps with a yellow lid.

TeaNoSugar

1,247 posts

167 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Someone not far from me has a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, parked in the road, and has rigged up a scaffold pole (about 9ft high) just behind his garden wall, with a rotating wooden stick about 2m long attached to a cap on the top of the scaff tube. That crosses the pavement and his charging lead is cable tied to it! Looks a bit Heath-Robinson but doesn’t seem to get in anyone’s way, and it’s been there at least 2 years so it seems to work for him/her. I can’t see it being a solution for many though!!

Edit - I suppose it’s really a rotating cap with a wooden stick attached!

Smiljan

10,939 posts

199 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Haringey

https://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/fi...

vs Hampshire

https://www.hants.gov.uk/en/transport/ev-charging-...

Probably best not ask your local council!

The Hampshire suggestion seems pretty solid to me. Around my area of Surrey the odd few locally that don't have driveways just lay a rubber ramp over the cable. I guess the other consideration is how busy it's likely to be on the pavement. If you live in sleepy hollow and there's little footfall, wheelchair users or such it's easy. If it's inner city and you're likely to get sued for tripping someone up, not so easy.


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

56 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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I've ordered something that looks like the Hampshire recommendation.

I don't often charge at home, but I've not been doing a lot of miles recently, so haven't been able to charge as I drive or at a charger on a client site.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,324 posts

237 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Running cables across a pavement must be a big no no surely?


2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,324 posts

237 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Cables across the pavement will be the new crash for cash scam.

ruggedscotty

5,661 posts

211 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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cables across the pavement unattended is a major no. Liability issues and all that, plus mains unattended. And as said lawyers tend to mess things like this up - its the next big cash for trip scandal that awaits.

What about the immediate area ? any place that the vehicle can be parked that would allow a cable to be routed out and protected out of harms way ? Or as said earlier the over head solution ?

https://electricbrighton.com/faqs/how-do-people-wi...

https://www.hants.gov.uk/transport/ev-charging-poi...

https://www.speakev.com/threads/charging-cables-an...

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8...

with 10 years to go would councils not be looking to get charing infrastructure out ? Lamp post charging upgrades were being talked about, ways of increasing the cabling in the street to provide charge points at the kerbside. Its something that is going to happen so they need to look at putting in the support to assist.

Any council backed schemes ? any way that the council will put a power point in the street ?

One of the biggest issues is going to be getting the parking sorted if they are going to put in fixed points, probably need to look at permit parking or parking restrictions as the charge point if teathered to your house you could be left without a charging point if someone has parked at it.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

56 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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I've got one of the protectors recommended by Hants.

aestetix1

868 posts

53 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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I predict that the cable covers will become very common. It's Britain, we are really bad at infrastructure projects and the Tories won't do anything to help ordinary people, plus councils have no money. Cable covers are the only option.

Smiljan

10,939 posts

199 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Landcrab_Six said:
I've got one of the protectors recommended by Hants.
Good option I think, let us know how you get in with it.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

56 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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Smiljan said:
Landcrab_Six said:
I've got one of the protectors recommended by Hants.
Good option I think, let us know how you get in with it.
Wallbox with long cable is still missing in customs somewhere, but I have a commando lead for the campervan and a 13a socket adaptor, so I'm using the granny lead at the moment. Takes almost twice as long to charge, but it'll do for now. I'm running around on electric at the moment so I don't have to pay back private fuel to the company!

It arrived yesterday - this is my first trial run with it. Let's see if I get anyone knock on my door to complain.


Smiljan

10,939 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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Looks like a good solution to me, not really any different to when contractors put protection for their lighting cables or roadwork coverings. Should be fine.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

56 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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TeaNoSugar said:
Someone not far from me has a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, parked in the road, and has rigged up a scaffold pole (about 9ft high) just behind his garden wall, with a rotating wooden stick about 2m long attached to a cap on the top of the scaff tube. That crosses the pavement and his charging lead is cable tied to it! Looks a bit Heath-Robinson but doesn’t seem to get in anyone’s way, and it’s been there at least 2 years so it seems to work for him/her. I can’t see it being a solution for many though!!

Edit - I suppose it’s really a rotating cap with a wooden stick attached!
This seems the less obstructive method.

Nice one to Landcrab for giving a st and covering and marking the cable.
I still think the covered cable on the pavement technique could be problematic for old people, prams and kids with those scooters that have dinky wheels.
But what else are you supposed to do?

TheRainMaker

6,383 posts

244 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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anonymous said:
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Move the Porsche and put it on the driveway.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

56 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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TheRainMaker said:
anonymous said:
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Move the Porsche and put it on the driveway.
The Porsche is under the winter cover behind the van, which is the wife's daily. The van being on the road would make it difficult for neighbours to see out of their driveways.

What I need is one of those lamppost chargers, but then I'd have to park outside the neighbour's house and hope he doesn't get a PHEV too! - mine's the first PHEV on the development.

ruggedscotty

5,661 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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Landcrab_Six said:
Wallbox with long cable is still missing in customs somewhere, but I have a commando lead for the campervan and a 13a socket adaptor, so I'm using the granny lead at the moment. Takes almost twice as long to charge, but it'll do for now. I'm running around on electric at the moment so I don't have to pay back private fuel to the company!

It arrived yesterday - this is my first trial run with it. Let's see if I get anyone knock on my door to complain.

looking good... that should do it, and shows that you have taken reasonable.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,324 posts

237 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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ruggedscotty said:
looking good... that should do it, and shows that you have taken reasonable.
I was going to say the opposite. Looks wide open to abuse to me.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,324 posts

237 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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But good luck thumbup

(as said, you've tried hard)

ruggedscotty

5,661 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
ruggedscotty said:
looking good... that should do it, and shows that you have taken reasonable.
I was going to say the opposite. Looks wide open to abuse to me.
open pavement, no means to secure or protect a cable or prevent a trip hazard - fit a cable protector, high viz etc. Are you wanting signs etc to be installed as well ?

CoolHands

18,875 posts

197 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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Lol legal in hants, illegal in Haringey. Also note hants say you don’t need a licence yet - won’t be long though!

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