Who's ordered a KIA EV6 GT?

[Zcd1]

stabilio said:

Yeah thats a good point and really hope thats the case as the more I watch from other countries, it seems 170 miles is the range.

And btw, If anyones interested in a drag race with a Model 3, heres the first I've found: https://youtu.be/Yg8XG1HJuLE?t=338
Almost nothing in it though.

FWIW, that's not a Model 3 Performance, based on the badging and brake calipers. Looks to be a Model 3 Dual Motor LR.

[TheDeuce]

SWoll said:

The issue here is that if the carwow figures are accurate, and in mixed driving and decent conditions (14 degrees, dry) it averages 2.6 miles/kWh, then that's likely to drop significantly once weather conditions worsen?

100% will matter more to some drivers than others, but worth pointing out for anyone considering one for a regular motorway commute or could find themselves rather disappointed?

Those figures ((2.6 miles/kWh) are identical to what we see in our etron 55 in mixed use and the same conditions, a vehicle lambasted for it's efficiency. It does however have a 10% bigger battery than the Kia so rarely falls below 200 miles of range available.

I'm not suggesting carwow figures are false but I think something might have affected them. We need more real world experience to know what the truth is.

Obviously if it can genuinely only do 200 miles mixed driving in close to ideal conditions, that's going to be pretty poor and will take it out of the equation for some people, although most would still be ok I guess. But I find myself doubting it really can be that poor because it would be a long way off other comparable recent EV's

My Jags pretty limited in terms of range compared to more recent cars, it would be a low bar if the Kia can't even match it.

[stabilio]

Zcd1 said:

FWIW, that's not a Model 3 Performance, based on the badging and brake calipers. Looks to be a Model 3 Dual Motor LR.

Yeah I noticed after I posted the link. I'm guessing the LR had the acceleration boost to post a sub 4 sec 0-60.

[stabilio]

TheDeuce said:

I'm not suggesting carwow figures are false but I think something might have affected them. We need more real world experience to know what the truth is.

Obviously if it can genuinely only do 200 miles mixed driving in close to ideal conditions, that's going to be pretty poor and will take it out of the equation for some people, although most would still be ok I guess. But I find myself doubting it really can be that poor because it would be a long way off other comparable recent EV's

My Jags pretty limited in terms of range compared to more recent cars, it would be a low bar if the Kia can't even match it.

How does this compare as tesla measure differently?

[Zcd1]

stabilio said:

Yeah I noticed after I posted the link. I'm guessing the LR had the acceleration boost to post a sub 4 sec 0-60.

Probably so.

Here are actual EV6 GT test results: (in the chart - scroll down and "click "Show more")

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-2023-kia-ev6-...

EV6 GT looks to be as quick if not slightly quicker than a Model 3 Performance...

[RossP]

My EV6 is arriving at the dealers on 5th of December. M3P goes back on the 18th. Anyone got access to an airfield?

[Zcd1]

RossP said:

My EV6 is arriving at the dealers on 5th of December. M3P goes back on the 18th. Anyone got access to an airfield?

This guy might be willing to help you out: https://www.instagram.com/mattsoncars/?hl=en

[anonymous-user]

RossP said:

My EV6 is arriving at the dealers on 5th of December. M3P goes back on the 18th. Anyone got access to an airfield?

Ross I’ve got GPS gear and lots of Go Pros. Where are you based?

(I can also bring a BAC Mono to represent peak ICE acceleration if you want…)

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 31st October 20:36

[RossP]

Sounds fun! I’m in Derbyshire (between Ashbourne and Derby)

[anonymous-user]

RossP said:

Sounds fun! I’m in Derbyshire (between Ashbourne and Derby)

Shame, I’m in Surrey, not close

[RossP]

Tobermory said:

Shame, I’m in Surrey, not close

I am planning on taking my GT to the PHSS at Thruxton if it arrives in time for that!

[SWoll]

TheDeuce said:

SWoll said:

The issue here is that if the carwow figures are accurate, and in mixed driving and decent conditions (14 degrees, dry) it averages 2.6 miles/kWh, then that's likely to drop significantly once weather conditions worsen?

100% will matter more to some drivers than others, but worth pointing out for anyone considering one for a regular motorway commute or could find themselves rather disappointed?

Those figures ((2.6 miles/kWh) are identical to what we see in our etron 55 in mixed use and the same conditions, a vehicle lambasted for it's efficiency. It does however have a 10% bigger battery than the Kia so rarely falls below 200 miles of range available.

I'm not suggesting carwow figures are false but I think something might have affected them. We need more real world experience to know what the truth is.

Obviously if it can genuinely only do 200 miles mixed driving in close to ideal conditions, that's going to be pretty poor and will take it out of the equation for some people, although most would still be ok I guess. But I find myself doubting it really can be that poor because it would be a long way off other comparable recent EV's

My Jags pretty limited in terms of range compared to more recent cars, it would be a low bar if the Kia can't even match it.

As with the etron the iPace useable battery is 10-15% bigger than the EV6 GT (85kWh v 74kWh) so with similar efficiency figures the absolute range of the Kia will drop accordingly.

The i4 M50 with 20" wheels and aero appendages suffers with the same efficiency problem, but does also have a larger useable battery (81kWh).

It's those wheels and tyres that are doing it IMHO and clearly fitting a bigger battery isn't possible and would also have pushed up the price . Too much aero drag and rolling resistance at high speeds will kill range in all conditions and be particularly bad when the cold/wet weather sets in.

Zcd1 said:

Probably so.

Here are actual EV6 GT test results: (in the chart - scroll down and "click "Show more")

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-2023-kia-ev6-...

EV6 GT looks to be as quick if not slightly quicker than a Model 3 Performance...

I think those are estimates rather than actual timings?

My guess would be that it will be slightly slower 0-60 and very similar over the 1/4 mile to the M3P. It's got more power but also another 2-300KG of mass to get moving off the line and Tesla TCS is the best in the business.

Plenty quick enough though, and for anyone who hasn't had an EV with that kind of performance before I can confirm that self control is an absolute necessity.

Edited by SWoll on Wednesday 2nd November 12:43

[TheDeuce]

Actually the 0-60 time is quite a bit better than Kia suggest.

3.27 seconds: https://youtu.be/3D0s6ku8VvQ

[RossP]

This guy had several attempts. His last one is right at the end of the video 30:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X6PfjMv9NY

2.99 seconds!

[TheDeuce]

RossP said:

This guy had several attempts. His last one is right at the end of the video 30:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X6PfjMv9NY

2.99 seconds!

I've seen it - I'm just not sure I fully trust that video! Loads of testers have now beaten the official figures but this guy somehow shaves another 0.3 seconds off

Does he definitely not have an uncle that works at KIA?

[RossP]

TheDeuce said:

Does he definitely not have an uncle that works at KIA?

Probably

[the tribester]

I know someone who has had a couple of drives in the GT press car, it's not just the 0-60 type acceleration that's impressive, it's the 'in-gear' type acceleration that impressed him the most.

[SWoll]

the tribester said:

I know someone who has had a couple of drives in the GT press car, it's not just the 0-60 type acceleration that's impressive, it's the 'in-gear' type acceleration that impressed him the most.

Usually the case with EV's as not limited by traction unlike launch. 30-70 in our M3P wqs always the party piece when taking someone out for a demo and I imagine the GT will feel similarly brutal. Even our etron with a lot more weight and a considrably less power really gets a shift on.

[Hans_Gruber]

the tribester said:

I know someone who has had a couple of drives in the GT press car, it's not just the 0-60 type acceleration that's impressive, it's the 'in-gear' type acceleration that impressed him the most.

That’s exactly what I’ve found, don’t worry about whether it’s 0-60 in 2.99 or 3.5 seconds, it’s the time saved overtaking that really shows.

Not having to drop down a gear, then wait for the turbo to spool up or the engine to come on cam - you put your foot down and the power is instant.

Mine’s just the long range model Y, I imagine it’s ultra impressive in an EV6 GT

[TheDeuce]

SWoll said:

the tribester said:

I know someone who has had a couple of drives in the GT press car, it's not just the 0-60 type acceleration that's impressive, it's the 'in-gear' type acceleration that impressed him the most.

Usually the case with EV's as not limited by traction unlike launch. 30-70 in our M3P wqs always the party piece when taking someone out for a demo and I imagine the GT will feel similarly brutal. Even our etron with a lot more weight and a considrably less power really gets a shift on.

Same here, 30-70 is hilarious and is just perfect for overtaking a slow car (or 3..) on a b-road. You really don't need very much space

Merging onto motorways is also laughably easy..