Polestar 2

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jjwilde

1,904 posts

98 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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phil4 said:
They've all been recalled.

Probably just some minor software glitch, I expect if they haven't already they will have OTA soon, and so won't need recalls like this.

Details here: https://insideevs.com/news/447089/all-2200-polesta...
This isn't some minor glitch it's very serious.

If this was Tesla this forum would be going wild, but it isn't and it's just super quiet about it.

Is this really the big boys showing Tesla how it's done? This is quality, is it?

jason61c

5,978 posts

176 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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jjwilde said:
This isn't some minor glitch it's very serious.

If this was Tesla this forum would be going wild, but it isn't and it's just super quiet about it.

Is this really the big boys showing Tesla how it's done? This is quality, is it?
It is, it’s a new company that’s tackling issues head on, of the owners who have had issues they level of customer service has been amazing.

Exactly how Tesla need to learn to behave.

So yes quality, we’ve got an issue, mostly software and it’s been sorted instantly.

No need to come here with your Tesla spam, it’s boring.

South tdf

1,536 posts

197 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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jjwilde said:
This isn't some minor glitch it's very serious.

If this was Tesla this forum would be going wild, but it isn't and it's just super quiet about it.

Is this really the big boys showing Tesla how it's done? This is quality, is it?
I understand the recall was limited to the first 2200 cars delivered worldwide, like Tesla Polestar will have faults, BMW have also had a recall on some 330e in higher numbers if it cheers you up.

jamoor

14,506 posts

217 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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jason61c said:
It is, it’s a new company that’s tackling issues head on, of the owners who have had issues they level of customer service has been amazing.

Exactly how Tesla need to learn to behave.

So yes quality, we’ve got an issue, mostly software and it’s been sorted instantly.

No need to come here with your Tesla spam, it’s boring.
New company?
Isn't it Volvo/Geely?

Volvo has been around ages and Geely for long enough.

South tdf

1,536 posts

197 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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If you have a spare few hours Google Tesla recalls or does the anti Tesla filter cleanse your results.

jjwilde

1,904 posts

98 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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South tdf said:
If you have a spare few hours Google Tesla recalls or does the anti Tesla filter cleanse your results.
That's not the point, this is calling out all those who said the big boys would be showing Tesla how it was done, etc. etc.

And here we are, they released a car with not a minor but a super serious issue which causes the cars to shut down AT SPEED.

Also the (4 year old) Model3 outsold the Polestar in the first month. Hmmm.

South tdf

1,536 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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jjwilde said:
Also the (4 year old) Model3 outsold the Polestar in the first month. Hmmm.
No doubt the older established Ford Fiesta outsold Tesla so a pointless argument.

SWoll

18,746 posts

260 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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South tdf said:
jjwilde said:
Also the (4 year old) Model3 outsold the Polestar in the first month. Hmmm.
No doubt the older established Ford Fiesta outsold Tesla so a pointless argument.
Because of course the Ford Fiesta and model 3 are directly comparable vehicles. Often hear buyers and the media discussing which is better..

jason61c

5,978 posts

176 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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jjwilde said:
That's not the point, this is calling out all those who said the big boys would be showing Tesla how it was done, etc. etc.

And here we are, they released a car with not a minor but a super serious issue which causes the cars to shut down AT SPEED.

Also the (4 year old) Model3 outsold the Polestar in the first month. Hmmm.
in what month!?

Are you looking at Tesla's own data again? Please, lets leave tesla stuff in the tesla thread and polestar stuff here.

Heres Johnny

7,271 posts

126 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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Polestar recall cars because they can stop on the road

This not is not a dig at Tesla, its just pertinent to the last point of this post - Tesla refuse to recall cars with faulty MCUs which can remove various safety features such as ability to turn head lights on, can't use fog lights,, sometimes preventing the indicators working (in other situations they work without making a noise) and various other problems and Tesla also happily let drivers use autopilot which phantom brakes for no good reason randomly brake checking any poor sod behind.

st happens with all cars. Anyone that gloats about other makes of car having problems should reflect on the old adage about people living in glass houses and throwing stones.

jjwilde

1,904 posts

98 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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Once again tho, I was talking about how people were saying that the Polestar was going to show Tesla how it was done, that the big boys were coming and Tesla were toast.

Hardly.

Oh and Jason, here are the sales figures for September for Norway where both cars have been available all month:

https://insideevs.com/news/446821/vw-id3-norway-ev...


JonnyVTEC

3,018 posts

177 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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Show how it’s done?

As in
A) engineer a similar car but with their better perceived and executed quality
Or
B) create a cult.

ZesPak

24,455 posts

198 months

Sunday 4th October 2020
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[quote=JonnyVTEC]Show how it’s done?
As in
A) engineer a similar car but with their better perceived and executed quality

Yes.
But try and do both, not just the former.

Smiljan

10,939 posts

199 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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jjwilde said:
Once again tho, I was talking about how people were saying that the Polestar was going to show Tesla how it was done, that the big boys were coming and Tesla were toast.

Hardly.

Oh and Jason, here are the sales figures for September for Norway where both cars have been available all month:

https://insideevs.com/news/446821/vw-id3-norway-ev...
I thought you'd left the forums Rob.

Heres Johnny

7,271 posts

126 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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jjwilde said:
Once again tho, I was talking about how people were saying that the Polestar was going to show Tesla how it was done, that the big boys were coming and Tesla were toast.

Hardly.

Oh and Jason, here are the sales figures for September for Norway where both cars have been available all month:

https://insideevs.com/news/446821/vw-id3-norway-ev...
You mean Polestar own up to the problems v Tesla who deny them?

The Audi who wouldn't ship because of software glitches v Tesla who sell FSD before they've even written it?

Stop throwng stones.

South tdf

1,536 posts

197 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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jjwilde said:
Once again tho, I was talking about how people were saying that the Polestar was going to show Tesla how it was done, that the big boys were coming and Tesla were toast.

Hardly.

Oh and Jason, here are the sales figures for September for Norway where both cars have been available all month:

https://insideevs.com/news/446821/vw-id3-norway-ev...
Not sure I have seen anyone saying Polestar will show Tesla how it’s done. Tesla have done very well and have a very good product. I would have one apart from the back breaking seat (my opinion).

But to start banging on about the sales in Norway ffs....

The force is strong with this one.

jjwilde

1,904 posts

98 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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South tdf said:
Not sure I have seen anyone saying Polestar will show Tesla how it’s done. Tesla have done very well and have a very good product. I would have one apart from the back breaking seat (my opinion).

But to start banging on about the sales in Norway ffs....

The force is strong with this one.
Oh, so, tell me the sales figures we should be looking at? Because all I see is Tesla still smashing it with a near 4 year old car hehe

But hold back your tears for when the Y launches!

ZesPak

24,455 posts

198 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Give it a rest.

The Polestar is probably the best thing to happen for Tesla fans. Just like the Galaxy S2 was the best thing to happen for iPhone fanboys.
Yes, people have been saying for a decade that the big boys will show tesla how it's done and so far there have been very little signs of that.

But all new products have their issues. There's a reason Skoda ranks highest in VAG reliability and Audi lowest.
Thinking to buy one of the first Polestar 2, Model 3 or Model Y and being surprised it isn't as reliable as a Toyota Yaris is pretty silly.

Both Tesla fanboys and haters need to get off their high horse. Neither are perfect but competition improves the breed.

jjwilde

1,904 posts

98 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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It does, I like the Polestar, it was just all the 'they will show Tesla how it's done' bullst we've been putting up with for months on here.

'The competition is coming'.

Well... in the UK last month (https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/):

Tesla sales: 5823

Polestar sales: 218

So let's just clear this up, the Polestar, the first 'real' competition to Tesla, didn't do a whole lot did it.

aestetix1

868 posts

53 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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There are already plenty of cars competing with Tesla. If you need more range, more comfort, more refinement, more space and a lower price get an e-Niro. The Kona is pretty good too.

With the current discounts on offer the Leaf 62 is very competitive as well. If you can live with it's limitations, which to be fair are minor, then it's £10k less than the cheapest Model 3.

Once you get into the 50k+ bracket it's more about brands and luxury, which the Polestar does well on.