Discussion
ZesPak said:
Toaster Pilot said:
This is the adaptor that seems to be most commonly talked about by Twizy owners FYI. https://www.symphonyev.co.uk/product/renault-twizy...
Thank you, that's the one I've seen.Again, seems cumbersome to have to put it on a couple of times a week (as from what I can see, not enough room to store it with the cable) if you're relying on public charging.
Then again, you'd have to pull out a Type 2 cable otherwise as well. Still, they should have had public charging sorted as I've seen they want to promote it as car sharing vehicles?
https://pod-point.com/electric-car-news/charging-a...
Ambleton said:
biggbn said:
Really like these, somewhat hamstrung by limiting speed so that it can be driven by 16 year olds in France isn't it? Great bit of design though
The speed is mainly to do with getting it registered as a quadricycle rather than a car. That way they don't need to go through crash safety and pedestrian impact etc.I dont think citroen could make this any faster unless they went through the "low volume production" route like Morgan do, but then they would never do that as there's not enough product turnover. Even that includes a crash test though, although its a single test thats not as expensive or as thorough as full approval.
Edited by Ambleton on Sunday 15th November 09:47
hidetheelephants said:
Most quadricycles are good for 50 so that clearly isn't the issue; with the Ami the marketability in the UK is pretty poor outside London unless they make it faster, I can't see the govt lowering the age limit to 14.
Driving licence classification AM: Light quadricycles (weighing under 350 kg, top speed 45 km/h)That's where the Ami fits, isn't it?
monthou said:
Driving licence classification AM: Light quadricycles (weighing under 350 kg, top speed 45 km/h)
That's where the Ami fits, isn't it?
Renault produce two versions of the Twizy - same car but one has a lower 45kmh top speed, one doesn’t. That's where the Ami fits, isn't it?
Citroen would be a bit short sighted to not realise that the U.K. market is far more suited to a heavy quadricycle with a higher top speed.
Toaster Pilot said:
Renault produce two versions of the Twizy - same car but one has a lower 45kmh top speed, one doesn’t.
Citroen would be a bit short sighted to not realise that the U.K. market is far more suited to a heavy quadricycle with a higher top speed.
The faster Twizy is a heavy quadricycle. I agree it would be (even) more interesting if Citroen made one.Citroen would be a bit short sighted to not realise that the U.K. market is far more suited to a heavy quadricycle with a higher top speed.
As I mentioned before, the Twizy is a great bit of kit. It's a shame they haven't updated it in 8 years.
I hope the Ami finds success and allows Renault to invest a bit in bringing the Twizy up to date.
Or maybe Seat should launch it's totally original Minimo concept that is in no way related to the Twizy
I'd be first on the list for whoever brings in an updated interpretation of the Twizy to market <10k EUR.
I hope the Ami finds success and allows Renault to invest a bit in bringing the Twizy up to date.
Or maybe Seat should launch it's totally original Minimo concept that is in no way related to the Twizy
I'd be first on the list for whoever brings in an updated interpretation of the Twizy to market <10k EUR.
I believe that it could work in the UK, but only for a very limited market, perhaps those who live in relatively small towns and cities who don't travel very far. My thoughts are that the new Centoventi concept ( Fiat Panda replacement?) would be more suitable, well it would be for me
If it was just in the one spec and say £12k then it would be preferable to the AMI. Unfortunately Fiat are looking on it as a fashion accessory for those with more money than sense (isn't that what the 500 is for) rather than basic family transport as every small Fiat up to now has been
https://www.fiat.co.uk/fiat-concept-centoventi
If it was just in the one spec and say £12k then it would be preferable to the AMI. Unfortunately Fiat are looking on it as a fashion accessory for those with more money than sense (isn't that what the 500 is for) rather than basic family transport as every small Fiat up to now has been
https://www.fiat.co.uk/fiat-concept-centoventi
Edited by Justin Case on Wednesday 30th December 15:41
Why was/is the G Wiz so universally hated when the Ami is pretty much the exact same thing? A small, horrible, ugly little car that can't keep up with traffic. I just can't see a single thing about it that's in any way appealing, especially with how far EV's have come since the G Wiz. Sure it might be decent for a city like London but it's just such a nasty little car IMO.
Edited by aaron_2000 on Saturday 6th March 01:47
ZesPak said:
The times they are a-changing.
That said, I agree to a part, the Ami will never be for me unless they can up the top speed to ~50mph.
I would encourage everyone to live with a Twizy for a week. Brilliant machines in many ways.
I’ll buy a battery owned Twizy as soon as one comes up that’s relatively affordable, just for the experience. Shame they’ll not charge just a little faster - I know it’s a small battery but even a 3.3kW charger would help. That said, I agree to a part, the Ami will never be for me unless they can up the top speed to ~50mph.
I would encourage everyone to live with a Twizy for a week. Brilliant machines in many ways.
monthou said:
hidetheelephants said:
Most quadricycles are good for 50 so that clearly isn't the issue; with the Ami the marketability in the UK is pretty poor outside London unless they make it faster, I can't see the govt lowering the age limit to 14.
Driving licence classification AM: Light quadricycles (weighing under 350 kg, top speed 45 km/h)That's where the Ami fits, isn't it?
hidetheelephants said:
The Ami weighs nearly 500kg.
I can't remember what I said yesterday, never mind 2 months ago.However google reveals that the rules are slightly different in la belle France:
Quadricycle léger à moteur (voiturette)
Définition mise à jour le 13 janvier 2021
Véhicule à moteur à 4 roues à habitacle fermé, conçu pour transporter au plus 2 personnes y compris le conducteur. Charge utile de 250 kg maximum. Vitesse maximale de 45 km/h. Moteur d'une puissance maximale de 6 kW. Cylindrée de 50 cm³ maximum pour un moteur à combustion interne à allumage commandé.
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/glossai...
4 wheels
closed cockpit
45kph
6KW
2 people max
250kg max load
Toaster Pilot said:
I’ll buy a battery owned Twizy as soon as one comes up that’s relatively affordable, just for the experience. Shame they’ll not charge just a little faster - I know it’s a small battery but even a 3.3kW charger would help.
I saw one in the German classifieds the other day with -get this- +100k km 
.Don't get me wrong, I love the twizy, but 15k km/year...
As for charging speed, never really bothered me or the wife but does depend on your use of course. I really don't get the "charge a bit faster" schtick tbh. If I'm on the road I don't want to wait an hour or two hours, doesn't matter. And when I'm parked up, usually at work or at home, I'm parked up for 8h or more. So 3h or 2h loading doesn't really matter either.
Years away for me, but these interest me for my son. When he learns to drive/gets mobile if it can be afforded these seem like a great way to limit young lad stupidity and get them used to the road for short journeys... I wonder if that is a current popular use for this type of vehicle (limited passenger, limited speed, cheapish?). I certainly hope in 10 our so years time an option like this is available for him.
Moonpie21 said:
Years away for me, but these interest me for my son. When he learns to drive/gets mobile if it can be afforded these seem like a great way to limit young lad stupidity and get them used to the road for short journeys... I wonder if that is a current popular use for this type of vehicle (limited passenger, limited speed, cheapish?). I certainly hope in 10 our so years time an option like this is available for him.
I’d expect this is a pretty big use of them in France etc over and above drink drivers. Gassing Station | EV and Alternative Fuels | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff