Polestar 2

[Podie]

Saw one in a car park recently, and it does seem a well screwed together bit of kit. Must admit I do like the look of them.

[South tdf]

[quote=greggy50]

P.S - I realise my driveway is rather green...

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Not as green as your neighbours.

Welcome to the PS2 club, had mine a few months and all good, as you mention cold range is not as good as expected but every EV owner I know is suffering the same.

[Smiljan]

Looks great Greggy, I prefer this colour too. There seems to be lots of issues with the black ones scratching or marring really easily reading the forums. Parked next to the Model 3 though the 3 does look a lot more stylish to me.

Also, your wall seems to have a massive wet patch right next to the charger install. Hope you don't lean on it while plugging in and get zapped

[greggy50]

Smiljan said:

Looks great Greggy, I prefer this colour too. There seems to be lots of issues with the black ones scratching or marring really easily reading the forums. Parked next to the Model 3 though the 3 does look a lot more stylish to me.

Also, your wall seems to have a massive wet patch right next to the charger install. Hope you don't lean on it while plugging in and get zapped

I am surprised to hear someone say the Model 3 looks better! It looks like a blob to me

The windows had just been cleaned prior to the photo being taken. The window cleaner, DHL & the Polestar delivery guy all handily agreed to turn up at the same time...

[ZesPak]

It does look great imho, better than the TM3. That said, it looks mahoosive next to it but that's probably more an illusion as the car shouldn't be that much bigger? And storage is similar apparently...

[SWoll]

ZesPak said:

It does look great imho, better than the TM3. That said, it looks mahoosive next to it but that's probably more an illusion as the car shouldn't be that much bigger? And storage is similar apparently...

It's a bit taller but a lot chunkier than the 3, almost getting into crossover territory. Good looking thing but the Volvo styling and uderpinnings do it no favours from a weight and efficiency standpoint unfortunately.

If ultimate range and public charging aren't a concern I can 100% see why someone would choose it over the model 3 LR for a similar price.

greggy50 said:

I am surprised to hear someone say the Model 3 looks better! It looks like a blob to me

Utterly subjective of course but the default white paint and the Aero hubcaps don't do it any favours IMHO.

Edited by SWoll on Thursday 28th January 11:11

[greggy50]

SWoll said:

ZesPak said:

It does look great imho, better than the TM3. That said, it looks mahoosive next to it but that's probably more an illusion as the car shouldn't be that much bigger? And storage is similar apparently...

It's a bit taller but a lot chunkier than the 3, almost getting into crossover territory. Good looking thing but the Volvo styling and uderpinnings do it no favours from a weight and efficiency standpoint unfortunately.

If ultimate range and public charging aren't a concern I can 100% see why someone would choose it over the model 3 LR for a similar price.

greggy50 said:

I am surprised to hear someone say the Model 3 looks better! It looks like a blob to me

Utterly subjective of course but the default white paint and the Aero hubcaps don't do it any favours IMHO.

Edited by SWoll on Thursday 28th January 11:11

The wheels are gash on the base model I agree which doesn't help... You can remove the wheels caps and it looks a bit better buts it's a company car so I didn't bother.

I find the Model 3 looks better in photos than in the flesh and the Polestar is the opposite but its just my opinion...

Model 3 SR is about 15-20% more efficient per KWh with me driving which I expected and doesn't bother me personally as the rest of the package more than compensates for me.

If you want straight line speed and ultimate range then Tesla is the best option, if you want a good all rounder than feels like a real high quality piece of kit and is unique than a Polestar is better. Handling wise both are probably no better or worse for different reasons and are best described as competent.

In terms of speed a M3P would leave my Polestar but its similar to a M3LR which is plenty for a daily driver and still supercar type acceleration up to 80/90 from 10 years ago.

I would try both is all I would say to any potential owners as long as you are happy with a real world 200 miles range. Both are good cars but have different flaws and it depends what you prirotise as an individual and what you intend to use the car for I would say.

Edited by greggy50 on Thursday 28th January 12:53

[ZesPak]

It's great to have a choice and I do like the P2 styling better but I agree that the TM3 usually looks better in the flesh than it does in pictures.

I hope there's more competition for the TM3 coming but the lower sedan style seems to be less popular overall . In the US the Model Y is already far outselling it (which they expected of course).

Now someone needs to do a Mach-e vs P2 review .

[greggy50]

ZesPak said:

It's great to have a choice and I do like the P2 styling better but I agree that the TM3 usually looks better in the flesh than it does in pictures.

I hope there's more competition for the TM3 coming but the lower sedan style seems to be less popular overall . In the US the Model Y is already far outselling it (which they expected of course).

Now someone needs to do a Mach-e vs P2 review .

Agreed, the Mach E looks a good car and the RWD versions seem reasonable value. The AWD ones look a bit too expensive to me however as at £60k its up against E-Tron, I-Pace etc. which is pushing it for a Ford.

The new IX3 looks a bit naff to me on paper for the price as does the electric GLA however.

[dgswk]

Think the conversation with my wife went along the lines of.... 'F**k I've just opted back into the Company Car scheme and ordered a Polestar!' Followed by uh, okay, what's one of those, whatever, hope its not b***dy white, if it makes you happy....

3rd March, new company car / car allowance policy issued. Logged in, wow, the game has moved on. Tesla LR (no Performance for some reason and no S), ID3 Touring, Polestar and all the usual Audi / BM / Merc stuff that was always on there. Hmmmm, OK. So I hand my £7,200 allowance back, take a PS2. Take-home drops £300 a month with a bit of cashback, Tax goes up £16. Pressed the button there and then, Magnesium and Slate.

I'm putting £250 of diesel in my shed every month before I even Tax, Insure, MOT and service it. No brainer.

Then started reading up on the forums, range issues, stuff doesn't work, OTA updates, have I made a grave mistake???

10 days later dealer has confirmed receipt so no going back. 3yrs of pain, or actually a really really nice daily.

Wife has a Zoe and I've been running it as my daily for the last few months whilst she's been home working, and that has been brilliant.

Oh well!

[TheRainMaker]

I would go with a really nice daily, and a bit of logistics to think about.

Sounds like you do a fair few miles if you are spending £250.00 a month on fuel, car wow have launched a video today with real world range and the P2 from 100% to totally empty was 197 miles.

[ZesPak]

TheRainMaker said:

I would go with a really nice daily, and a bit of logistics to think about.

Sounds like you do a fair few miles if you are spending £250.00 a month on fuel, car wow have launched a video today with real world range and the P2 from 100% to totally empty was 197 miles.

I ran about 400 EUR in diesel/month and 200 miles is just not enough for me. 250 would do it though.

[dgswk]

200 mile commute (£20+ of diesel) 2-3 times a week

Zoe didn't quite make it during the winter (60-70mph), but came very close, wasn't going to chance it. Would do it in the summer being careful, we saw 210-220 miles without trying last September when it was new. Polestar has +50% more battery and adaptive cruise. Set it to 69mph, 6music on loud, and won't be far off. That was my logic anyway!

Edited to add: The project I'm working on apparently are going to 'carpet bomb' the car parks with charging points later this year, but I didn't take that into consideration in case my location changes. Then I can drive it like an idiot on the commute, for free.

Edited by dgswk on Friday 12th March 19:59

[ZesPak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-E2GJW_8Vc
As mentioned, from this video they didn't quite got to 200 miles with the P2.

[dgswk]

I'm sure it will be fine. 100 miles each way, plus 9hrs on site, I always stop for a coffee on the way home so worst case - just like in the Zoe for the last few months, £2.50 of Ecotricity, and a coffee and I'm on my way. TBH, do it in the shed now, just don't plug in. Never personally had a problem with Ecotricity either, stop early, knowing I've got another two services in range.

[ZesPak]

granny charging at destination would also work though. I had a MS 75D for a while and it helped me get home without trouble on multiple occassions.

[greggy50]

ZesPak said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-E2GJW_8Vc
As mentioned, from this video they didn't quite got to 200 miles with the P2.

Hi, worth noting this was before the recent OTA update which improved the efficiency and unlocked a bit more battery capacity which was probably worth another 15 miles of range.

My consumption does appear to have improved a bit since the update and any 4g issues have disappeared however I only had problems with it a couple times before.

Done 2,500 miles now in mine and its a great all rounder and gets a fair bit of attention on the road being so rare. Its a great daily IMO if you can deal with a real world 210-220 miles or so (this should improve as the weather gets better)

[SWoll]

You do need to take into account that the carwow test was done in decent conditions as well (dry, 10 degrees C, 40mph average) so far from worst case scenario. With rain, lower temps and a higher average motorway speed It'll be considerably lower?

Add the known limitations with the third party charging network on UK motorways and I'd suggest it would be challenging to live with for anyone regularly covering decent distances all year round?

[Jacobyte]

For those that need to travel further between charges, there's a 2WD option becoming available soon. Lower losses, so greater range, cheaper too.

The recent OTA update added about 15% efficiency over the same route.

Note: the OTA update has been successful for about 90% of cars.

Mine has surpassed my expectations so far; for my needs it's frankly an excellent vehicle on so many levels.

[NDA]

An interesting video.

I bought my Tesla 3 quite recently and was completely agnostic about which EV to buy... I have two thirsty V8 cars besides the Tesla, so it's not my only vehicle.

I thought the Tesla won on a couple of counts - the fact that it's an unashamedly EV car. It's not trying to be like a petrol car in any way and I like the difference. The range seems better than most. And finally the charging infrastructure was, and remains, leagues ahead of anyone else.

The Polestar looks better from the outside, although the Tesla's looks have grown on me from 75% of angles. I actually prefer the minimalist interior of the Tesla.

I'd still buy the Tesla ahead of the new Audi, the Polestar and the Porsche - maybe this is because I have other cars. If it was my only car? Not sure. Probably still would - because of the charging network.