Polestar 2

[South tdf]

ZesPak said:

Playing the numbers game, the TM3 is just an incredible proposition as an EV tbh.

That statement pretty much sums up the difference between Tesla and Polestar drivers.

[dgswk]

SWoll said:

Very Good numbers that. Just checked our Tesla After doing a 50 mile trip earlier today and almost identical, Polestar have clearly really improved the efficiency over the past few months

Same today, but got home with 24% after 201 miles (no detour and 16-18 degrees this morning). No rolling 10-60 dashes, but have to say, did have a brief bit of fun giving it some on the motorway on the way home. All my fears are gone, it will do the job - yes, close in the winter but I can deal with that. Grabbed a coffee at Michaelwood Services tonight and didn’t bother to top up.

I don’t believe the 4.7s 0-60, it is a good bit quicker than that, it wouldn’t turn my 911 over (3.4s I think) but it would certainly see which way it went at real world non-ban speeds.

[SWoll]

dgswk said:

Same today, but got home with 24% after 201 miles (no detour and 16-18 degrees this morning). No rolling 10-60 dashes, but have to say, did have a brief bit of fun giving it some on the motorway on the way home. All my fears are gone, it will do the job - yes, close in the winter but I can deal with that. Grabbed a coffee at Michaelwood Services tonight and didn’t bother to top up.

I don’t believe the 4.7s 0-60, it is a good bit quicker than that, it wouldn’t turn my 911 over (3.4s I think) but it would certainly see which way it went at real world non-ban speeds.

Closer to 4 than 5 in every test I've seen. Impressive again as quite a lot of weight to get moving.

[South tdf]

It is genuinely much quicker real world than a Ferrari below 60mph, much less drama worrying about grip and also looking a tit making loads of noise, but having driven the SF90, now that’s a different game.

[Clive Milk]

South tdf said:

It is genuinely much quicker real world than a Ferrari below 60mph, much less drama worrying about grip and also looking a tit making loads of noise, but having driven the SF90, now that’s a different game.

" looking a tit making loads of noise"


Looking like someone not wanting to drive a hoover making a hoover-esque amount of noise plus lots of whine and squeals.

The human ear prefers low rumbles rather than something that makes your fillings vibrate.

PS Have you listened to the Formula E races ??

[EddieSteadyGo]

Clive Milk said:

" looking a tit making loads of noise"


Looking like someone not wanting to drive a hoover making a hoover-esque amount of noise plus lots of whine and squeals.

The human ear prefers low rumbles rather than something that makes your fillings vibrate.

PS Have you listened to the Formula E races ??

We are talking here about road cars, not racing cars.

If you drive a car with a modified exhaust on the road, it does mark you out as an attention seeking tit.

High performance EVs like the PS2 is the the way forward for fast/discrete road cars.

[dgswk]

EddieSteadyGo said:

We are talking here about road cars, not racing cars.

If you drive a car with a modified exhaust on the road, it does mark you out as an attention seeking tit.

High performance EVs like the PS2 is the the way forward for fast/discrete road cars.

And although mine was purely a ‘head’ based decision, a nice BiK tax dodger and a hatchback rather than a saloon, it’s actually a properly quick real world road car.

In my mind, I think it might actually be the ultimate sleeper. For starters, nobody seems to have a clue what it is.

Edited by dgswk on Thursday 10th June 22:32

[ZesPak]

South tdf said:

ZesPak said:

Playing the numbers game, the TM3 is just an incredible proposition as an EV tbh.

That statement pretty much sums up the difference between Tesla and Polestar drivers.

I agree, I was responding to someone who found it hard to justify the Polestar using numbers vs the TM3.
I'd struggle myself even though I prefer the styling and the hatch on the Polestar.

[South tdf]

dgswk said:

In my mind, I think it might actually be the ultimate sleeper. For starters, nobody seems to have a clue what it is.

Edited by dgswk on Thursday 10th June 22:32

Is it a Citroen?

[ZesPak]

Tbh looking at it, I find it really hard to miss the Volvo connection. The headlights and taillights all scream "volvo" (in a good way).

[SWoll]

ZesPak said:

Tbh looking at it, I find it really hard to miss the Volvo connection. The headlights and taillights all scream "volvo" (in a good way).

Funnily enough that's the issue with it for me. Saw one in black yesterday and from a styling perspective find it a rather bland and too generic Volvo crossover. Just seems a shame they didn't do something more interesting with it given the opportunity, but then feel exactly the same about the Model 3.

This is where Hyundai and Kia with their new models could really do well IMHO.

[jason61c]

Its good to see the efficiency improving with updates. 180 winter motorway miles at 75mph? still on the edge?

[SWoll]

jason61c said:

Its good to see the efficiency improving with updates. 180 winter motorway miles at 75mph? still on the edge?

Difficult to judge isn't it, looks like it'll be borderline on the worst days but then if you slow to 65? Will certainly need to spec the plus pack for the heat pump though.

The LR RWD model the one if 200 miles all year a requirement I'd suggest.

[ZesPak]

SWoll said:

Just seems a shame they didn't do something more interesting with it given the opportunity, but then feel exactly the same about the Model 3.

Tbh the Model 3 looks like a bar of soap and is just as slippery. The efficiency numbers do speak for themselves though.

I'm no fan of SUV's, but imho the Huyndai Ioniq 5 is the one to beat in that price category. Looks like a very complete and competent package. I'm just worried that a lot of people can't get over the badge. In that aspect, I don't know how good badge engineering (DS, Polestar) still works. It obviously worked for Lexus and VAG, but that was a long time ago.

[greggy50]

SWoll said:

dgswk said:

Same today, but got home with 24% after 201 miles (no detour and 16-18 degrees this morning). No rolling 10-60 dashes, but have to say, did have a brief bit of fun giving it some on the motorway on the way home. All my fears are gone, it will do the job - yes, close in the winter but I can deal with that. Grabbed a coffee at Michaelwood Services tonight and didn’t bother to top up.

I don’t believe the 4.7s 0-60, it is a good bit quicker than that, it wouldn’t turn my 911 over (3.4s I think) but it would certainly see which way it went at real world non-ban speeds.

Closer to 4 than 5 in every test I've seen. Impressive again as quite a lot of weight to get moving.

They have revised it to 4.5 on the configurator now I believe. Real world I have seen 4.2/4.3 quoted on the forums which feels about right.

I do think its a sleeper as everyone expects a Tesla to be quick but nobody knows what it is. I get a lot of people asking about the car parked up and a few people have asked if it was a Tesla strangely...

[chopper602]

After a long hard look at these (used to own a proper V60 Polestar), I've decided it's too expensive and will probably go for an ID.3

As for styling, I think it the side view looks an awful lot like a late Saab 9-5 (used to own one - terrible car)

[dgswk]

It’s the understated SAAB-ishness that actually really appeals.

It’s an intriguing car in terms of styling. This will sound weird, I keep thinking Swedish Architect when I drive it. In a good way.

Just wish it had a ‘black screen’ button to turn the main screen off.

[chrispmartha]

dgswk said:

It’s the understated SAAB-ishness that actually really appeals.

It’s an intriguing car in terms of styling. This will sound weird, I keep thinking Swedish Architect when I drive it. In a good way.

Just wish it had a ‘black screen’ button to turn the main screen off.

Hold the ‘home’ button (the white bar at the bottom of the screen) for 20seconds and it goes into screen cleaning mode, this will make the screen blank bar a bit of text saying its in screen clean mode, granted it means you can’t use the HVAC controls but will do the trick of blanking out the screen. I never have it on maps as i find it too distracting

Glad your enjoying the car, for me its the best all round car ive ever had, does absolutely everything, its (very) quick, refined, got an amazing stereo and I love the interior styling. I don’t do many long trips so the range anxiety doesn’t factor, alough i did a 150 mile round trip and just topped up at the services, I didn’t need to but thought id test the infrastructure out and had no problems and that was on the supposedly crap eco city chargers at the services.

Ive got two free ev engie chargers close to home and work so in 3 months its cost me £10 in total for ‘fuel’ and I didn’t really need to spend that

[sparkymark75]

Would quite like one of these but it’s just too expensive. I’m guessing most folk get it via their employer but unfortunately my employer doesn’t offer a salary sacrifice scheme.

I wish the government would offer better rebates for private purchasers. Such as what Norway offers.

[dgswk]

chrispmartha said:

Hold the ‘home’ button (the white bar at the bottom of the screen) for 20seconds and it goes into screen cleaning mode, this will make the screen blank bar a bit of text saying its in screen clean mode, granted it means you can’t use the HVAC controls but will do the trick of blanking out the screen. I never have it on maps as i find it too distracting

Glad your enjoying the car, for me its the best all round car ive ever had, does absolutely everything, its (very) quick, refined, got an amazing stereo and I love the interior styling. I don’t do many long trips so the range anxiety doesn’t factor, alough i did a 150 mile round trip and just topped up at the services, I didn’t need to but thought id test the infrastructure out and had no problems and that was on the supposedly crap eco city chargers at the services.

Ive got two free ev engie chargers close to home and work so in 3 months its cost me £10 in total for ‘fuel’ and I didn’t really need to spend that

Nice one, thank you, that screen is annoying - sure some will love it! I’ll try that tomorrow on my next 200 mile commute

Still in the randomly pressing buttons phase to see what happens. Tell you what, it really is a very quick car and I think it actually handles too. Still not a hint of tyre squeal of full launches and on real roads, I haven’t met a corner yet I’d go faster in the 911.

Not convinced on steering feel, but that’s no different to anything new these days but you would never know in the real world that it’s north of 2 tonnes.