New Nissan Leaf

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55palfers

5,924 posts

165 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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raspy said:
235 is based upon the Japanese testing. 150 miles is based upon the EPA testing which is seen as much more realistic.
Let VW do the testing and it will do the Moon and back.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

124 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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235 miles seems to be Europe/UK figure. interestingly depending on global location, there are 3 different ranges !!

anyway, one would think, 40kwh will be circa 200 miles.

I think these are interesting times for EV's and manufacturers- I guess many different models will start appearing now- competition being a good thing.

cvega

405 posts

160 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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40kWh will be more like, 150-170 miles real world depending on driving style etc. I'm still onboard pending prices. Good news is 6.6kW charger standard in all trims, that was a bit or a ripoff on the MK1 (£1200 option)

modeller

448 posts

167 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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cvega said:
40kWh will be more like, 150-170 miles real world depending on driving style etc. I'm still onboard pending prices. Good news is 6.6kW charger standard in all trims, that was a bit or a ripoff on the MK1 (£1200 option)
Agreed, getting more than 5miles/kWh is unlikely unless it's very efficient - or never driven over 50mph!

raspy

1,551 posts

95 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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austinsmirk said:
235 miles seems to be Europe/UK figure. interestingly depending on global location, there are 3 different ranges !!

anyway, one would think, 40kwh will be circa 200 miles.

I think these are interesting times for EV's and manufacturers- I guess many different models will start appearing now- competition being a good thing.
It's just different methodologies for testing the same car in different countries. Ignore the 235, EU tests generate unrealistic figures. Stick to the lower 150 miles from the US EPA test which will be much closer to what you will get with the car in the UK.

colin79666

1,835 posts

114 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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No pricing details yet unless I'm missing something. I think sub £20k after the government hand out would be the trigger for mass adoption but I don't think we are there yet.

I'll be keeping a close watch on this Leaf, might be my next car. I've been viewing my CT200h as a stepping stone but with a 50 mile round trip commute each day the electric range and up front cost has been the sticking point to date. Got the current shape at work which I'm not a massive fan of but this new model looks a bit less extreme, a negative for some but a positive for me. I think we are past needing electric cars to stand out from the crowd in a tailback, blending in might encourage adoption from those not on the bleeding edge.

subevo

52 posts

263 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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A little disappointed in the look of the car and the performance.still not good enough to temp me away from tesla.

gangzoom

6,354 posts

216 months

Saturday 9th September 2017
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subevo said:
A little disappointed in the look of the car and the performance.still not good enough to temp me away from tesla.
You cannot compare a Tesla and Leaf on any front.

My old 24kWh Leaf did 80 miles range max versus over 200 miles in our Tesla. 0-60 time is sub 5 second versus 10.

However one cost £4.5k to run over 2 years and 14K all in, the other deprecated by around £15k the mintue I drove it out of the room!!

Zoon

6,725 posts

122 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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gangzoom said:
However one cost £4.5k to run over 2 years and 14K all in, the other deprecated by around £15k the mintue I drove it out of the room!!
Which was which?

Zoon

6,725 posts

122 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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At twice the price it doesn't stack up, not to mention the Model 3 will attract luxury car tax of £25 a month.

essayer

9,110 posts

195 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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If you're near Milton Keynes there are two of the new 2.Zero models on display at the EV Experience Centre at Centre MK

You can't drive them but you can sit inside- first impressions are of a good quality build and looks much, much better than the 1st gen, but I'm not a big fan of the single dial speedo

Type 2 charging
£26490 after grant

60kWh version rumoured to be in the works.

Frimley111R

15,713 posts

235 months

essayer

9,110 posts

195 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Frimley111R said:
Probably haven't included the PICG grant
https://www.nissan.co.uk/vehicles/new-vehicles/lea...
£26490

lost in espace

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6,180 posts

208 months

Monday 6th November 2017
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Went to the presentation at St Albans today, saw a white one in the flesh. Looks good, cockpit nice. Boot a bit bigger, looks like a Micra. There is a launch special edition 1000 cars, Tekna but without leather.

Got back in my £200 a month 30kwh and did wonder what it offered apart from another 35 miles range and ProPilot, and its going to be a lot more than £200 a month. When I asked about upgrading they were completely unprepared, first deliveries of these new cars in January. Further cars delivered from April.

Frimley111R

15,713 posts

235 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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lost in espace said:
Got back in my £200 a month 30kwh and did wonder what it offered apart from another 35 miles range and ProPilot, and its going to be a lot more than £200 a month. When I asked about upgrading they were completely unprepared, first deliveries of these new cars in January. Further cars delivered from April.
TBH most news cars give you the same challenge. They are different and bit better but rarely is there a big leap in one area.

essayer

9,110 posts

195 months

Friday 1st December 2017
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Rumoured PCP pricing is £3k down, £379/month on a 3yr deal for the 2.ZERO launch model
6000 miles/yr, FV £11k

£26490 on the road

Seems excessive

nyxster

1,452 posts

172 months

Saturday 2nd December 2017
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essayer said:
Rumoured PCP pricing is £3k down, £379/month on a 3yr deal for the 2.ZERO launch model
6000 miles/yr, FV £11k

£26490 on the road

Seems excessive
not many kumquats will be stamped on in excitement at that price.

Edited by nyxster on Saturday 2nd December 03:20

Pooh

3,692 posts

254 months

Sunday 3rd December 2017
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Seems expensive as the new Zoe, which has a longer range, is available for far less.

Zoon

6,725 posts

122 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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essayer said:
Rumoured PCP pricing is £3k down, £379/month on a 3yr deal for the 2.ZERO launch model
6000 miles/yr, FV £11k

£26490 on the road

Seems excessive
Too expensive I'm afraid.

EddieSteadyGo

12,148 posts

204 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Zoon said:
essayer said:
Rumoured PCP pricing is £3k down, £379/month on a 3yr deal for the 2.ZERO launch model
6000 miles/yr, FV £11k

£26490 on the road

Seems excessive
Too expensive I'm afraid.
Yeah, the problem is Nissan are not offering any support/discount at this point in time. Hence the full extent of the horrible amount of predicted depreciation is being borne by the monthly PCP amount.

But suspect that is just the case for the first few months after the UK launch. Lets see what they are Nissan are offering in 12 - 18 months time...