Test drove an iPace and a Tesla S
Discussion
RobDickinson said:
I'm surprised a bit, either they didnt fix it, didnt know to fix it, or it is fixed and still crap?
This is a list of software issues an iPace owner has complied. A finished product the iPace is not.[i]Problems sent to Jaguar via my dealer....
1. Car randomly forgets my profile completely and I have to re-enter it.
2. Car randomly does not load my profile when first starting the car. I have to let everything boot up, then go and select my profile.
3. Car does not populate the "My EV", "Eco Data Panel" or "Vehicle Precondition" pages on the screen when I start the car. This happens pretty much every time I start the car. I have to wait for the car to fully boot up (can take up to 2 minutes on occasions) and then have to deselect my profile (if it has remembered to load it) and re-select it. Following this, the affected pages on the screen are populated - most of the time, sometimes I need to do it twice if I am too quick.
4. The Car forgets the Creep settings and always defaults to Off. This happens every time I start the car.
5. The Car forgets my Wi-Fi password every time I move away from a connection, requiring me to re-enter the password every time. As such, the car never automatically connects to any Wi-Fi source.
6. The Car randomly loses my login details for my Online Media account and I have to re-enter it and login again.
7. The Online Media is randomly not available. When this occurs, I have to switch the car off and leave it for a while (maybe 30 minutes), then restart and usually it will re-appear.
8. SatNav screen will not automatically change between Day and Night settings.
9. When playing music from a USB Drive, the car will randomly forget which track was last played and return to playing the first track on the memory stick. Although I like the first song on the USB Drive, it is starting to get a bit grinding. As you can only scroll through the songs one at a time, this is more than annoying.
10. The reversing camera has a ridiculous amount of lag which has on occasion almost caused me to reverse into things. If I drop something behind the car I can hear it hit the floor before the camera even processes that it has passed it.
11. Assurance that the car is able to charge on a 100kW capable charger from 0% to 80% Indicated SoC in 40 minutes. I abandoned taking the car to Europe a few months ago because at the time this was clearly not possible.
12. Occassionly (though not so often now), I get a blank centre screen and a blank lower screen. When this does happen then stay black for a few minutes then appear.
13. Timed Charging does not work. The car always forces the battery to charge to 100% and as such ignores set charging times thus NOT taking advantage of cheap-rate electricity.
14. I randomly get duplications of my Custom page which come and go.
In addition to this, I was told the following units within the car would be able to be updated using SOTA Updates:
A: Infotainment System
B: Telematics System
C: BMS System
Clearly, with 8 months of ownership and not a single SOTA Update.
(Note that since sending the above questions to Jaguar, I have actually had a SOrTA update and it totally killed my EMedia connections.)[/i]
Why is someone worried about the brakes ? In high regen mode there is so much “motor braking “ that I virtually never use the brakes ( and I do use the performance ) . I thought our i3 was a one pedal car but the I pace is so much better than that .
I’ve had a few issues mentioned above . But I’ve never had a computer that works 100% all the time so perhaps expect no better here . The faults are all pretty trivial and I expect the same on all j l r products with the same set up , not e v specific .
For me manual gearboxes and a good exhaust generate a lot of a cars character and an e v will never have this . But an I pace can cover ground on B roads very quickly and enjoyably . It will never be an m3 (bmw ) ( but then I have a cheap old one of those anyway 😂)
I’ve had a few issues mentioned above . But I’ve never had a computer that works 100% all the time so perhaps expect no better here . The faults are all pretty trivial and I expect the same on all j l r products with the same set up , not e v specific .
For me manual gearboxes and a good exhaust generate a lot of a cars character and an e v will never have this . But an I pace can cover ground on B roads very quickly and enjoyably . It will never be an m3 (bmw ) ( but then I have a cheap old one of those anyway 😂)
hyphen said:
Tiggsy said:
I know they are not pitted against each other - but I need boot space and they are both perfect for my dogs (unlike the Tesla 3)..
Why not the X?b) I like the idea of having the fastest Tesla (right now) - childish, i know!
Dave Hedgehog said:
That start footage!!!! It's just left them for dead 
(I need one now!)
Frimley111R said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
That start footage!!!! It's just left them for dead (I need one now!)
Dave Hedgehog said:
Tiggsy said:
Don't drive an S then - it is mind blowing quick off the mark.
it would be interesting to see how an S compared to a M3P in normal driving mode without conditioning the battery for ludicrous modemids said:
ds666 said:
I thought our i3 was a one pedal car but the I pace is so much better than that .
I'm intrigued by what you mean by that. Can you explain?mids said:
ds666 said:
I thought our i3 was a one pedal car but the I pace is so much better than that .
I'm intrigued by what you mean by that. Can you explain?Well yeah, I'm used to driving that like in the i3, hardly ever used the brakes when pootling about on my commute. I just wondered how you perceived the iPace to be so different/better?
Maybe Max_Torque's previous comment explains some of it although I never really found the i3 cutting the regen to be a problem that was encountered too often.
Maybe Max_Torque's previous comment explains some of it although I never really found the i3 cutting the regen to be a problem that was encountered too often.
I understand the max regen on an I pace is 0.4 g . On the i3 it is around 0.2 . I never find the i3 short of regen but if I drive it after the I pace it is noticeably lower and you have to quickly recalibrate your foot to get back to not using the brakes . Just as well cause the i3 brakes are pretty poor .
Interesting comments re regeneration - the i3 did turn a bit scary when you went over bumps or white line or a drain or in the wet sometimes when the regen would suddenly stop. Felt like you were accelerating all of a sudden. Never felt that in the iPace. I did 260 miles in the iPace on Saturday and only used the brakes a tiny number of times - love one pedal driving
I don't know how true these figures are but if Jaguar really are struggling to shift 160 iPaces a month in a market as big as the US surely the company is in big trouble?
People worry about buying a Tesle due to the potential of bankruptcy, surely the same can be said for Jaguar?
https://insideevs.com/news/369533/jaguar-i-pace-sa...
People worry about buying a Tesle due to the potential of bankruptcy, surely the same can be said for Jaguar?
https://insideevs.com/news/369533/jaguar-i-pace-sa...
They lost $3.6bn last year I think?
The iPace is a good car, just lacks cruising efficiency and perhaps an infotainment update.
But in the USA I think its lacking something, charging network, a bit of size for the price?
I doubt JLR can come down too much given the magna production...
The iPace is a good car, just lacks cruising efficiency and perhaps an infotainment update.
But in the USA I think its lacking something, charging network, a bit of size for the price?
I doubt JLR can come down too much given the magna production...
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