Which EV would you consider buying?
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I opted for a model 3 standard range plus 3 months ago, I'm due to swap into a model 3 Performance mid December.
I got a software update with a 5% power increase this evening, looking forward to trying that in the morning.
I'd say there are quite a few pro's and con's with an EV that only come to light once you either a) do lots of research or b) take the plunge.
Overall I'm fairly happy, though with winter approaching only time will tell whether I remain EV powered or switch back to petrol and something ludicrous, excuse the pun.
One thing I will say, Tesla have a major advantage with the superchargers.
I got a software update with a 5% power increase this evening, looking forward to trying that in the morning.
I'd say there are quite a few pro's and con's with an EV that only come to light once you either a) do lots of research or b) take the plunge.
Overall I'm fairly happy, though with winter approaching only time will tell whether I remain EV powered or switch back to petrol and something ludicrous, excuse the pun.
One thing I will say, Tesla have a major advantage with the superchargers.
Edited by manracer on Wednesday 13th November 09:12
Personally, the only EV that would more or less work is a Tesla 3 with the bigger battery, ideally the Long Range RWD version they don't sell any more. My use case is pretty atypical as it includes some ~ 500 km Autobahn / week, about 2/3 of that unrestricted. A kWh costs ca. 0.35 € over here and I can't charge at home or work....
So it it is cheaper and way less hassle to get a beefy diesel (which is why I drive a petrol
). Pretty much a worst case scenario for an EV and I doubt this is much relevant in the UK.
Why am I still interested in EVs?
So it it is cheaper and way less hassle to get a beefy diesel (which is why I drive a petrol
). Pretty much a worst case scenario for an EV and I doubt this is much relevant in the UK.Why am I still interested in EVs?
- The mechanical simplicity is great. Lots of Tesla S cars out there with moon and back mileage, holding up very well.
- Living right in the centre of a larger town, the local emissions aspect is very welcome.
- EVs are ideal commuter cars. Instant torque, silent, low CoG, reliable, cheap to run (at this point in time, due to subsidies).
- After 100+ years of ICE development, we finally have a worthy power train competitor.
bulldong said:
Model 3 - the longest range one, with self driving preparation.
BMW i3 - latest one with biggest battery.
That's pretty much what we've gone for. Had the i3 120ah for 8 months now, perfect city car and will do 140-190 miles on a full charge dependent on weather and other factors.BMW i3 - latest one with biggest battery.
Plumped for the Model 3 Performance with FSD rather than the LR as the additional kit and go seems worth it despite the slight reduction in range (>10%). Due to arrive soon so will find out I suppose.
We are able to charge at home, have decent local public charging available if needed and only occasionally do 200+ mile round trips. If that wasn't the case then the I'm sure we'd continue running at least 1 ICE car.
OP needs to take a test drive. I borrowed an i3 last week and was pleasantly surprised how much quieter and smoother it felt than my 5 series, it was also decently quick which is rather addictive.
The other nice thing is the ability to pre heat the car, lovely this time of year to get into a warm defrosted car to go to work.
In the end I ordered an egolf, simply because it was more practical than the i3 - yes it’s getting on and the range is only 120 miles, but to be honest it’s rare that I travel more than 120 miles in a single journey and the cost saving was so strong ( company car) that it was a no brainier.
The other nice thing is the ability to pre heat the car, lovely this time of year to get into a warm defrosted car to go to work.
In the end I ordered an egolf, simply because it was more practical than the i3 - yes it’s getting on and the range is only 120 miles, but to be honest it’s rare that I travel more than 120 miles in a single journey and the cost saving was so strong ( company car) that it was a no brainier.
Blue Oval84 said:
If I had to buy today it would be the Tesla Model 3 Long Range, but if you ask me again next year it stands a good chance of being the Ford Mach-E if it's anything like it's renders
Quite a few people have said they'd go for Model 3 LR on this thread yet it's proving to be the least popular model in reality. SR+ and Performance are hard to get hold of yet Tesla always seem to have a number LR cars available in inventory ready for immediate delivery (and the odd SR+ with the £6k FSD option).12 yesterday, 7 today.
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/inventory/new/m3?arran...
The Mach-E is looking interesting though I agree.
Edited by SWoll on Wednesday 13th November 08:45
SWoll said:
Quite a few people have said they'd go for Model 3 LR on this thread yet it's proving to be the least popular model in reality. SR+ and Performance are hard to get hold of yet Tesla always seem to have a number LR cars available in inventory ready for immediate delivery (and the odd SR+ with the £6k FSD option).
12 yesterday, 7 today.
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/inventory/new/m3?arran...
The LR is over priced or the performance gives you a lot for not much more money12 yesterday, 7 today.
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/inventory/new/m3?arran...
I get this thread, in an effort to embrace the future I think my next car in 2 - 3 years time will be EV and to be honest the miles I do I am the perfect candidate. As far as being drawn to any at the moment and I know it is all subjective:
- I really liked the Honda e concept and could have seen myself owning one of those, the production model, not so much. Lots will say it was natural progression to something usable, but to my eyes a step too far to keep my "want" levels high.
- I like the Peugeot e208, it's nice and I could see myself having a moment and getting one, but I'm not sure I'd ever be happy with my choice. That being said I think this is the closest a car available now gets for me.
- The one I am really excited about that comes in mid 2020 apparently is the Skoda Vision concept and what they make of that. VAG technology, well on the way to being proven by then, typically Skoda's are very practical, I loved the original Yeti styling because it was a bit different maybe the vision will be enough different to be interesting if/when it makes it to production.
The above are based on a reasonable/anticipated £30k ish budget. If money were no object it would be a Fisker EMotion https://www.fiskerinc.com/emotion-electric-car I'm not 100% certain it is in production but that is a car I can get excited about.
- I really liked the Honda e concept and could have seen myself owning one of those, the production model, not so much. Lots will say it was natural progression to something usable, but to my eyes a step too far to keep my "want" levels high.
- I like the Peugeot e208, it's nice and I could see myself having a moment and getting one, but I'm not sure I'd ever be happy with my choice. That being said I think this is the closest a car available now gets for me.
- The one I am really excited about that comes in mid 2020 apparently is the Skoda Vision concept and what they make of that. VAG technology, well on the way to being proven by then, typically Skoda's are very practical, I loved the original Yeti styling because it was a bit different maybe the vision will be enough different to be interesting if/when it makes it to production.
The above are based on a reasonable/anticipated £30k ish budget. If money were no object it would be a Fisker EMotion https://www.fiskerinc.com/emotion-electric-car I'm not 100% certain it is in production but that is a car I can get excited about.
Edited by Moonpie21 on Wednesday 13th November 09:43
Be careful a lot of cars ‘on the market’ are ultra low volume placeholders that are pretty tricky to actually buy.
Of 2020 cohort polestar looks the best to me. Volvo styling and features with Tesla level drivetrain would be sweet.
I cancelled my Tesla order on promise of the fancy ads for other cars. And shopped around but ended up back with Tesla as there just isn’t viable competition o the roads yet. Might be different next year but probably not till second half of year.
Keep seeing broken down ipaces at charging stations. So I would take a couple of panel gaps for the reliability of Tesla. (The uk model 3 has good reliability survey scores so far) Though my car gaps were perfect.
Of 2020 cohort polestar looks the best to me. Volvo styling and features with Tesla level drivetrain would be sweet.
I cancelled my Tesla order on promise of the fancy ads for other cars. And shopped around but ended up back with Tesla as there just isn’t viable competition o the roads yet. Might be different next year but probably not till second half of year.
Keep seeing broken down ipaces at charging stations. So I would take a couple of panel gaps for the reliability of Tesla. (The uk model 3 has good reliability survey scores so far) Though my car gaps were perfect.
FA57REN said:
Had a look at the Peugeot e208 mentioned upthread, fearsome price made my jaw drop; £28,550 for the basic EV model versus £12k less for the ICE equivalent trim.
We aren't at mass-market EV adoption level yet.
Wrong. The equivalent performance (1.2, 130bhp GT Line) and trim ICE model is over £23k. So £5k difference is still a lot of petrol, but it's not incorrectly stated as £12k.We aren't at mass-market EV adoption level yet.
Dave Hedgehog said:
SWoll said:
Quite a few people have said they'd go for Model 3 LR on this thread yet it's proving to be the least popular model in reality. SR+ and Performance are hard to get hold of yet Tesla always seem to have a number LR cars available in inventory ready for immediate delivery (and the odd SR+ with the £6k FSD option).
12 yesterday, 7 today.
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/inventory/new/m3?arran...
The LR is over priced or the performance gives you a lot for not much more money12 yesterday, 7 today.
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/inventory/new/m3?arran...
Needs to drop to about £45k and come with 19" wheels as standard IMHO and would be far more popular. Or maybe the issue is the Performance is too cheap?
Everyone suggest EV's are far more expensive than their ICE counterparts but at £52k the M3P is about £10k cheaper than the base BMW M3 will be when released next year.
Edited by SWoll on Wednesday 13th November 10:51
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