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andy43 said:
SWoll said:
Witchfinder said:
I really like this, and the prospect of Taycan rivalling performance in a package that costs less than a basic E-Tron is mouthwatering. I think the D-pillar and rear lights look awkward, but you can't have everything. First the Stinger, now this - Kia are really crushing it.
Despite excellent reviews UK Stinger sales were still pretty poor though with the £45k asking price likely being the issue?Need to see real world performance and range figures for the GT model before getting too excited IMHO. Based on the weight (2200KG?) and performance output with a 77Kw battery it's surely going to really struggle with range?
Kia are making some good stuff. Our Soul has been great and if we hadn't bought a Tesla via my wife's business I would definitely be driving a Stinger 3.3 now. Fully loaded as standard, 7 yr warranty, great to drive as BMW's M car man did the chassis and it just crept under the luxury car tax limit - 40k or thereabouts base price when I was looking last year. Poor Stinger sales because not German?
Witchfinder said:
SWoll said:
I'd say so. As good a car as I'm sure it is it still struggles at that kind of price point (£42,650 now) and I think the EV6 may suffer with the same issue, especially the £50k+ models.
Hopefully some good discounts available then.With the £39k Niro 4 coming in at well over £500 a month on a 3 year/30k term I get the feeling the LR models of the EV6 are going to be in amongst the big boys cost wise but will have to wait and see.
SWoll said:
With the £39k Niro 4 coming in at well over £500 a month on a 3 year/30k term I get the feeling the LR models of the EV6 are going to be in amongst the big boys cost wise but will have to wait and see.
I suppose it depends what the market is like. My E-Tron 50 is under £500/mo. Leasing ain't as good as it used to be though.Witchfinder said:
SWoll said:
With the £39k Niro 4 coming in at well over £500 a month on a 3 year/30k term I get the feeling the LR models of the EV6 are going to be in amongst the big boys cost wise but will have to wait and see.
I suppose it depends what the market is like. My E-Tron 50 is under £500/mo. Leasing ain't as good as it used to be though.![eek](/inc/images/eek.gif)
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So how much is a £60k Kia likely to cost? £900? £1000? Seems to be very little faith in residual values still.
Thank you for the thorough review. Intersting to read and, looking at your garage, you're clearly not just an EVangelist trying to convince the unclean masses!
I must admit the cost still scares me, just beacuse I'm used to buying used cars (I know, the issue is with my buying model/habits), but I'd love to see a pragmatic and factual comparison between this, the Ioniq 5 and the upcoming MG SZ EV with 273 mile range. Are the Koreans really worth >£10k more than the MG, particularly given the 7 year waranty? Hopefully a group test will be along in November/December somewhere.
I must admit the cost still scares me, just beacuse I'm used to buying used cars (I know, the issue is with my buying model/habits), but I'd love to see a pragmatic and factual comparison between this, the Ioniq 5 and the upcoming MG SZ EV with 273 mile range. Are the Koreans really worth >£10k more than the MG, particularly given the 7 year waranty? Hopefully a group test will be along in November/December somewhere.
Another thank you for this review. I’m also on the fence on EV vehicles as some have already mentioned. I do 400 miles a week commuting and nearly all of those miles are motorway so diesels work for me. The model you tested is one of the few EV vehicles I actually think looks good. I’m quite old school so going EV is something that sort of scares me. I live out of town/city so charging points are nonexistent. I think my work have maybe 4 charging points but over 10,000 people work there!! I also do shift work so the thought of fannying around with electrical cables in the early hours or late at night does not fill me with much joy. I do not think there are many EV vehicles out there that could cope with 400 motorway miles weekly without charging during the week. Would like to trial one for a week to see the pros and cons of EV ownership for my situation.
wolfie28 said:
Another thank you for this review. I’m also on the fence on EV vehicles as some have already mentioned. I do 400 miles a week commuting and nearly all of those miles are motorway so diesels work for me. The model you tested is one of the few EV vehicles I actually think looks good. I’m quite old school so going EV is something that sort of scares me. I live out of town/city so charging points are nonexistent. I think my work have maybe 4 charging points but over 10,000 people work there!! I also do shift work so the thought of fannying around with electrical cables in the early hours or late at night does not fill me with much joy. I do not think there are many EV vehicles out there that could cope with 400 motorway miles weekly without charging during the week. Would like to trial one for a week to see the pros and cons of EV ownership for my situation.
You could always have a charger at home if you have parking. I bought my first EV in Feb and still haven't got round to installing a charger - I just use the granny cable from a 13A plug (it adds about 7 miles range per hour - so an easy 80+ a night). I never do more than 100 miles a day so have no need of public chargers (we have a second ICE car for long distance family trips).wolfie28 said:
Another thank you for this review. I’m also on the fence on EV vehicles as some have already mentioned. I do 400 miles a week commuting and nearly all of those miles are motorway so diesels work for me. The model you tested is one of the few EV vehicles I actually think looks good. I’m quite old school so going EV is something that sort of scares me. I live out of town/city so charging points are nonexistent. I think my work have maybe 4 charging points but over 10,000 people work there!! I also do shift work so the thought of fannying around with electrical cables in the early hours or late at night does not fill me with much joy. I do not think there are many EV vehicles out there that could cope with 400 motorway miles weekly without charging during the week. Would like to trial one for a week to see the pros and cons of EV ownership for my situation.
400 motorway miles without charging during the week? Assuming you have the ability to charge at home, that problem just goes away - you very quickly get used taking that additional 10 seconds (literally) to plug the charger. If you have a wallmount it'll add close to 20 miles of charge per hour; I find the fact that I never have to visit filling stations to be a massive boon.
I do about 40 miles commuting each day on motorways and find the EV (I've got a deeply unglamorous Nissan Leaf) to be brilliant; you can set the timer to warm the cabin before you set off, it's always full before you start, it's really quiet and it's the sort of zero-personality vehicle that's ideal for just stooging around.
This is my first EV and I'm a total convert. My S-Class has been sold and although I have a diesel car for long distance stuff it's barely moved since I got the Leaf.
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It does look like there is an 'N' version in the works,https://www.carwow.co.uk/hyundai/news/5295/hyundai...
Post in the Kia section looking for owner experience. I have directed them here.
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