My Ioniq5 P45 thread - from the start.

My Ioniq5 P45 thread - from the start.

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DSLiverpool

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14,837 posts

204 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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McAndy said:
DSLiverpool said:
So the range disappointment of max 220 in eco / heater off / mixed use is an issue.

I expected 250 per charge about 3.5 miles per kWh but I’m getting under 3

I’ve asked them what to do, they started with running in / driving style / time of the month but I know the dance and this car has an issue.

The saga continues.
I feel it's unusual for Hyundai/Kia to be a way away from their claimed ranges. Are you on any of the EV forums to see if others are suffering similarly? Hope it gets identified/fixed for you soon!
It’s not Hyundai it’s my particular car, we’ve had other Hyundai EVs and they do better than claimed.

McAndy

12,716 posts

179 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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DSLiverpool said:
It’s not Hyundai it’s my particular car, we’ve had other Hyundai EVs and they do better than claimed.
Indeed, my wife's 2017 Ioniq has performed pretty well to date.

Smiljan

10,939 posts

199 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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Are you carrying much around with you? Have a feel of the wheel at each corner at the end of a decent length trip to see if you have a dodgy brake sticking.


gangzoom

6,415 posts

217 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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DSLiverpool said:
It’s not Hyundai it’s my particular car, we’ve had other Hyundai EVs and they do better than claimed.
Nothing wrong with your call. It appears Hyundai/Kia have no secret sauce to efficiency. Make a light weight, not very powerful or big EV like the Kona and efficiency is great. But make a bigger 'premium' EV with performance to match and its no more (or less) efficient than any EV from other brands with similar performance/size.

3 miles per kWh seems about right for the Ionqi 5 at M way speeds, its likely this will drop to 2.5 miles per kWh as we head into winter.

https://youtu.be/ZgeZikh88Wc

SWoll

18,760 posts

260 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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gangzoom said:
DSLiverpool said:
It’s not Hyundai it’s my particular car, we’ve had other Hyundai EVs and they do better than claimed.
Nothing wrong with your call. It appears Hyundai/Kia have no secret sauce to efficiency. Make a light weight, not very powerful or big EV like the Kona and efficiency is great. But make a bigger 'premium' EV with performance to match and its no more (or less) efficient than any EV from other brands with similar performance/size.

3 miles per kWh seems about right for the Ionqi 5 at M way speeds, its likely this will drop to 2.5 miles per kWh as we head into winter.

https://youtu.be/ZgeZikh88Wc
yes

It's a 300bhp, dual motor, 2100KG EV with 20" wheels and a 0.29 drag factor so 3 miles per kWh sounds right when compared to similar cars like the iPace and Polestar 2 AWD.

DSLiverpool

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14,837 posts

204 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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gangzoom said:
DSLiverpool said:
It’s not Hyundai it’s my particular car, we’ve had other Hyundai EVs and they do better than claimed.
Nothing wrong with your call. It appears Hyundai/Kia have no secret sauce to efficiency. Make a light weight, not very powerful or big EV like the Kona and efficiency is great. But make a bigger 'premium' EV with performance to match and its no more (or less) efficient than any EV from other brands with similar performance/size.

3 miles per kWh seems about right for the Ionqi 5 at M way speeds, its likely this will drop to 2.5 miles per kWh as we head into winter.

https://youtu.be/ZgeZikh88Wc
In eco with no heat and no motorway it won’t hit 3km - it’s also way under other owners performances.

McAndy

12,716 posts

179 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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DSLiverpool said:
In eco with no heat and no motorway it won’t hit 3km - it’s also way under other owners performances.
Yeah, that's poor. I'd be targetting between 3.5 and 4 under those conditions (downhill and drafting an HGV for the upper end of the band, perhaps wink)

karma mechanic

740 posts

124 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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Double check tyre pressures?

JonnyVTEC

3,018 posts

177 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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Cooling plates in the battery and uk climate might means there’s a background energy just keeping the battery warm regardless of cabin heat to. Short journeys not very frequently will make this worst case for energy use.

gangzoom

6,415 posts

217 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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DSLiverpool said:
In eco with no heat and no motorway it won’t hit 3km - it’s also way under other owners performances.
Oh, even our X will hit 3.5 miles per kWh in those settings. Hope you find a solution!

dmsims

6,601 posts

269 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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So a fridge that doesn't cool, chop it in for an ID3 smile

DSLiverpool

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14,837 posts

204 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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So the range continues to dive, it’s now less than our 38kw ioniq !

The cars in a heated garage and wasn’t cold this morning

So far 4 emails and 2 tweets have been ignored.


gangzoom

6,415 posts

217 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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DSLiverpool said:
So the range continues to dive, it’s now less than our 38kw ioniq !
Its not even winter yet, and if you believe this guy at 70mph in winter, with standing water the Ioniq 5 is going to be a sub 130 mile range car!!

https://youtu.be/Za_r37w3oz0

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

256 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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Ouch that doesnt look right, does seem like a faulty pack or bms or something

DSLiverpool

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14,837 posts

204 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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RobDickinson said:
Ouch that doesnt look right, does seem like a faulty pack or bms or something
I’ve been round long enough to realise it’s definitely faulty but they are stting it as obviously it’s a huge job, they have no spares and no experience.

No other owners on the Fb group get as low as I do, even if I hypermile at 30 it won’t get above 3 m per kWh

What grates on me is Hyundai et al are hiding - I’ve said I don’t what it to go in for weeks while they test stuff, get the factory solutions ready then I’ll come in.


so called

9,104 posts

211 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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I wonder if it's running 4 wheel drive all of the time?
I understand that when your in ECO etc., it runs rear wheel only and so should give similar mileage performance to my Ultimate rear drive version.

DSLiverpool

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204 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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so called said:
I wonder if it's running 4 wheel drive all of the time?
I understand that when your in ECO etc., it runs rear wheel only and so should give similar mileage performance to my Ultimate rear drive version.
Not according to the dash display it’s not - I can see power distribution. Good shout though.

Kimbie

21 posts

142 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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Is the range on the dash the same as in the Bluelink app? As I know the app has its own issues.

DSLiverpool

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204 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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Kimbie said:
Is the range on the dash the same as in the Bluelink app? As I know the app has its own issues.
Yep - I’m pretty analytical I’ve gone through all the none fked options to deduce it’s fked sadly.

The silence deafening.

caseys

311 posts

170 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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Jeez you're getting less miles / kWh than I get at 70mph with the heating on ... I get 3.7m/kWh on a 100+ mile trip on the M3/M27.

Test drove a 5 at the local dealership - only the single motor RWD. They said they'd never be able to offer a test drive in a dual-motor AWD.

Can you get an OBD dongle and plug in and have a look at it at all? Not that you should have to sort anything out... but it would be interesting to get some more data, get some screen shots to fire at Hyundai.