iPace currently available for £400/month wow!!

iPace currently available for £400/month wow!!

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anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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red_slr said:
I had fully planned to get 20s or even 21s for mine. Then it arrived and about 30 seconds later I decided against it.

I have yet to actually see one on anything other than 18s but honestly they look fine. It almost suits the futuristic look of the car.
By most measures the smaller wheels are the best choice. Ride, noise, wear etc. Even the looks, whilst being subjective, don’t matter much to an owner, you can’t see them from inside and in truth, very few people notice or care what wheels are on someone else’s car.

As for looking like a Mondeo wheel, one of the Tesla S wheels looks like it was lifted straight from a 2010 VW Passat........

So what?

red_slr

17,350 posts

190 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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Photos don't really do it justice IMHO

Jasper3.0

652 posts

201 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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The ride on the 18"'s and conventional suspension is really good mind.

I agree, it is far better in the flesh than in pictures - especially in the solid white.

hab1966

1,098 posts

213 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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Mine arrives a week this Wednesday.

I'm not fussed about the wheel size. Would the wheel gap size have anything to do with the IPace actually being able to go off road?

The one extra i did want was folding mirrors but i wasn't prepared to pay the crazy price for them, not that it should be an option on a £65k car.

red_slr

17,350 posts

190 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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Threw mine up a decent twisty at the weekend, very flat and so long as you are not too keen on the throttle the tc will keep its nose out. The standard tyres struggle a bit for traction if you are not progressive.

I suspect a good bit quicker than my macan diesel over the same route.

onedsla

1,114 posts

257 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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Got mine (S) on Tuesday, having spent approx £9600 over total 49 months of 24kwh, then 30kwh Leaf Teknas.

First impressions very good. Really refined and really roomy inside. The combination of EV + 4WD + decent power makes for brutal acceleration. On paper it's not the fastest car on my driveway, but the response + traction makes it feel like the faster one in 'real life'.

Took it for a long drive to North Wales. 100 miles later, (mix of 70mph cruise plus various 30,40,50,60 limits, ending with a rather steep, rough bridle way which it handled well) battery was down to 48% (from 96% start).

Had originally intended to go out and back on the day, but would have had to find public charging to do that, which is a little disappointing given the advertised range. Apparently one can expect much better in summer + city conditions. Coming from a leaf, the recharge time seemed to take forever on a 3 pin - adding just 2% per hour. Sure, it's charging at more or less the same rate, but with its 'poor' efficiency, the miles per hour added (when charging) is significantly lower.

Funnily enough, we did come across a (free) public charge point at a beach car park. We were back to 80% + at this point, but did see a Tesla driver leave a note on the parked-up E-Golf (which appeared to be fully charged), so could have been a long wait for juice had I been relying on it.

EddieSteadyGo

12,128 posts

204 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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onedsla said:
Got mine (S) on Tuesday, having spent approx £9600 over total 49 months of 24kwh, then 30kwh Leaf Teknas.

First impressions very good. Really refined and really roomy inside. The combination of EV + 4WD + decent power makes for brutal acceleration. On paper it's not the fastest car on my driveway, but the response + traction makes it feel like the faster one in 'real life'.

Took it for a long drive to North Wales. 100 miles later, (mix of 70mph cruise plus various 30,40,50,60 limits, ending with a rather steep, rough bridle way which it handled well) battery was down to 48% (from 96% start).

Had originally intended to go out and back on the day, but would have had to find public charging to do that, which is a little disappointing given the advertised range. Apparently one can expect much better in summer + city conditions. Coming from a leaf, the recharge time seemed to take forever on a 3 pin - adding just 2% per hour. Sure, it's charging at more or less the same rate, but with its 'poor' efficiency, the miles per hour added (when charging) is significantly lower.

Funnily enough, we did come across a (free) public charge point at a beach car park. We were back to 80% + at this point, but did see a Tesla driver leave a note on the parked-up E-Golf (which appeared to be fully charged), so could have been a long wait for juice had I been relying on it.
The 3-pin charger IIRC is only something like 2.3kw whereas a type1 charger will be 3.3kw and a type 2 will be 6.6kw. So the charging rate will be significantly slower via a 3-pin plug.

In terms of range, I drive with little to no consideration for the efficiency and the range from full shows at around 200 miles. In terms of what I need, that's actually quite good, but it compares poorly to the advertised WLTP figure. I'm not sure though what the equivalent range would be from a Tesla if I was driving it in the same way.

onedsla

1,114 posts

257 months

Monday 1st April 2019
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Yes, 3 pin works from 10 amps, but at least you know it's going to be available whilst public stations (other than Tesla super charger network) are a bit of a gamble today.

Motorway speeds really hit efficiency in EVs. Furthest out and back I did in my 30kwh Leaf was about 92 miles total. That was in winter (coat, heated seats, occasional demisting, staying to 65mph on way home) and I got home with range displaying as '-' (it was 5 about a mile from home). I'd have expected 110-120 if staying in 30 limits. I'd expect about double the range in the I-Pace, but that's with 3 times the battery capacity which highlights the inefficiency. Still, fine for my requirements - we made do with 24kwh for 2 years and still have a petrol car (albeit one that can only manage about 250 miles between filling stations).

I do recall reading that the Tesla published stats were set at 65mph, so I suspect 90kwh would get a model X further than an I-Pace.

DickiePhitt

68 posts

126 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2019
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Picked up my car from Williams, Manchester, on Monday. Fleet Prices have communicated regularly throughout the process and replied promptly to my queries so no complaints. Likewise the handover at Williams was thorough and professional. Being a lease I'd rather thought the whole process might be a bit offhand, but quite the opposite.

Driving home I had a mixture of city driving, motorway and fast, twisty A & roads over the Pennines. The car is a very relaxing and easy to drive in the city and on the motorway. Acceleration is at least on a par with the Audi S5 I've come from - No turbo lag, no kick down, near silence and continuous strong acceleration makes comparisons difficult. The suspension does feel 'floaty' on fast undulating roads which means you have to be cautious about attacking bends on such roads and remember you're driving a 2 tonne SUV, not a sports car.

Interior-wise its good, but not £65k good. Its a £45k car with £20k contribution to development costs. I would never consider purchasing one and the S model shows signs of penny pinching in the spec (known about) which makes the higher spec versions even more overpriced (IMHO).

So far the infotainment has behaved and doesn't appear laggy. Multiple Jaguar Apps (each requiring separate linking to account and car) combined with Jaguar server 'problem our end' last night has meant that getting connected is proving to be frustrating but that has been well flagged by other owners so was expected.

Too early to say what the range is like but in 50 miles I've used 1/3 of a 'tank' and taken 100 miles off the GOM.

red_slr

17,350 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2019
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We do urban driving and a full charge is getting us about 190-200 miles.


EddieSteadyGo

12,128 posts

204 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2019
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DickiePhitt said:
<snip>The suspension does feel 'floaty' on fast undulating roads which means you have to be cautious about attacking bends on such roads and remember you're driving a 2 tonne SUV, not a sports car.
Just on this point, I've noticed if you drive at 6/10ths, the suspension has time to cope and it feels well damped and controlled.

However, if as you say the road has undulations, or if you drive faster at 8/10ths, the suspension can quite often completely lose its dynamic control for a few moments. You don't tend to get this level of problem on something like a new 5 series.

Hence why I would be keen to try the air suspension, if I ever purchased the car, as I wonder if that would improve things.

RacerMike

4,226 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2019
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EddieSteadyGo said:
DickiePhitt said:
<snip>The suspension does feel 'floaty' on fast undulating roads which means you have to be cautious about attacking bends on such roads and remember you're driving a 2 tonne SUV, not a sports car.
Just on this point, I've noticed if you drive at 6/10ths, the suspension has time to cope and it feels well damped and controlled.

However, if as you say the road has undulations, or if you drive faster at 8/10ths, the suspension can quite often completely lose its dynamic control for a few moments. You don't tend to get this level of problem on something like a new 5 series.

Hence why I would be keen to try the air suspension, if I ever purchased the car, as I wonder if that would improve things.
The adaptive air suspension is definitely a lot better controlled. Dynamic mode with the CV Dampers also helps further. Of all of them, the Coil car is the least controlled IMO and sacrifices a lot of handling control for ride comfort.

hab1966

1,098 posts

213 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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I learned of the IPace deal through this thread. It was delivered on Wednesday and this weekend will probably see it being used more than the 2 mile commute to the train station ive done on Thursday and Friday.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Are there any good PCP or HP deals? I'd rather get something for my money at the end instead of just leasing.

gangzoom

6,344 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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kuro68k said:
Are there any good PCP or HP deals? I'd rather get something for my money at the end instead of just leasing.
There are over 100 on Autotrader, nearly all look like exdemo/pre-reg cars, SEs can be had for under £60K which is close to a £10k saving.

Oh don't forget to add £1600 to the price though, adding future VED to the price of the car seems to be the thing to do at the moment wink.

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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kuro68k said:
Are there any good PCP or HP deals? I'd rather get something for my money at the end instead of just leasing.
At the end of the lease you can sometimes negotiate to buy the car to avoid them punting it through an auction

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

253 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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kuro68k said:
Are there any good PCP or HP deals? I'd rather get something for my money at the end instead of just leasing.
Have a look at Rockar, they seem to have a much better PCP rate than other Jag dealers
https://jaguar.rockar.com/

dmsims

6,559 posts

268 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Witchfinder said:
Have a look at Rockar, they seem to have a much better PCP rate than other Jag dealers
https://jaguar.rockar.com/
No much point as it does not show the IPace as available (PCP or HP) rolleyes

Heres Johnny

7,251 posts

125 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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audi321 said:
Surely the VAT would be more than £7200 if you bought it outright?
What’s VAT got to do with it? VAT is an ‘on the road’ cost, same as making the car in the first place. Once it’s in the road it’s irrelevant, and if a car salesperson tells you different, walk away.

RDMcG

19,226 posts

208 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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As a non-EV person I approach them with a fair amount of scepticism. I have driven most of them.
I approached the iPace with a similar attitude. I was actually very impressed with it- handles very well ,comfortable,nice steering. I much prefer interior to Tesla. Excellent car