My Ioniq5 P45 thread - from the start.

My Ioniq5 P45 thread - from the start.

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Silverage

2,050 posts

131 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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DSLiverpool said:
They have offered to keep it for a week to see what they can get - I’m not in the mood to do that just now. I’ll get a few hundred more miles on it first.
I just thought if they ran your car alongside their demo over the same route in the same conditions that would instantly prove that there is something seriously wrong with your car when it comes back doing 33% fewer miles per kwh than theirs. I know their demo will almost certainly be a RWD Premium on 19s, but it shouldn’t make that much difference.

DSLiverpool

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14,792 posts

203 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Silverage said:
DSLiverpool said:
They have offered to keep it for a week to see what they can get - I’m not in the mood to do that just now. I’ll get a few hundred more miles on it first.
I just thought if they ran your car alongside their demo over the same route in the same conditions that would instantly prove that there is something seriously wrong with your car when it comes back doing 33% fewer miles per kwh than theirs. I know their demo will almost certainly be a RWD Premium on 19s, but it shouldn’t make that much difference.
No AWD demos right now

Silverage

2,050 posts

131 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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I assume this whole carry on has just made you 100% certain of swapping the Ioniq 5 for the Toureg when it finally becomes available? I know it would take much less than this to put me off a car.

karma mechanic

730 posts

123 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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There's a hint in one of the forums that there's a software update to fix some driveline issues:

He also told me that they have an upgrade for the BMS/driveline software, which might decrease the consumption


DSLiverpool

Original Poster:

14,792 posts

203 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Silverage said:
I assume this whole carry on has just made you 100% certain of swapping the Ioniq 5 for the Toureg when it finally becomes available? I know it would take much less than this to put me off a car.
No question - Touregs still on order

so called

9,092 posts

210 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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Hi DSL, don't know if you spotten this offer from dapprman ?
No idea what at KONNWEI '#=#'###'='='=####???? Don't know what it does but it sounds impressive.


dapprman said:
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@DSLiverpool - hope you do get your car sorted soon - if you you end up needing to connect your car to a reader I have a spare KONNWEI KW902 Mini Bluetooth Wireless OBD-II OBD2 I can lend/drop in the post.

DSLiverpool

Original Poster:

14,792 posts

203 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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so called said:
Hi DSL, don't know if you spotten this offer from dapprman ?
No idea what at KONNWEI '#=#'###'='='=####???? Don't know what it does but it sounds impressive.


dapprman said:
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@DSLiverpool - hope you do get your car sorted soon - if you you end up needing to connect your car to a reader I have a spare KONNWEI KW902 Mini Bluetooth Wireless OBD-II OBD2 I can lend/drop in the post.
Didn’t see that, might be an option

dapprman

2,347 posts

268 months

Thursday 7th October 2021
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so called said:
Hi DSL, don't know if you spotten this offer from dapprman ?
No idea what at KONNWEI '#=#'###'='='=####???? Don't know what it does but it sounds impressive.


dapprman said:
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@DSLiverpool - hope you do get your car sorted soon - if you you end up needing to connect your car to a reader I have a spare KONNWEI KW902 Mini Bluetooth Wireless OBD-II OBD2 I can lend/drop in the post.
It's a cheap clone of what appears to be the main bluetooth ODB-II dongle. I was sent an extra one by accident (or more accurately the first one took over a year to arrive).

DSLiverpool

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14,792 posts

203 months

Saturday 9th October 2021
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I think I’ve Sussed the st range issue, regardless of driving mode the front wheels are always driven except on coasting.

As far as I can tell they shouldn’t do this except on start off or slippy roads or in sport mode.

The dealer said the car display isn’t accurate but others don’t have the display showing drive to the front wheels when doing 30 in eco.

Hyundai are a really st company in the U.K.

Jonny_

4,141 posts

208 months

Saturday 9th October 2021
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Do you know anyone with a thermal camera? Might be worth giving the car a coat of looking-at after a decent run.

All that extra energy (and at 2.5 vs 4.0 mi/kWh, an hour's drive at an average 40mph would consume an additional 6kWh, so a fair amount of it!) has to be going somewhere, and if not propelling the car then it'll ultimately end up somewhere as heat. I'd check the motors, transmissions, tyres, brakes, inverter(s), battery pack.

Have got a handy little Flir thermal imager for work myself, but I'm quite a distance away from Liverpool.

so called

9,092 posts

210 months

Saturday 9th October 2021
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so called said:
I wonder if it's running 4 wheel drive all of the time?
I understand that when your in ECO etc., it runs rear wheel only and so should give similar mileage performance to my Ultimate rear drive version.
God I'm good. wink

DSLiverpool

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14,792 posts

203 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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More st or less st - so yesterday in eco the front wheels were NOT being driven despite same environment as day before.

Miles per kWh on a 15 mile run 3.6 - hmm

I’ve realised the i pedal setting causes 4wd even in eco mode (!) lowering miles per kWh a lot.

Scheduled charging decided not to work
It’s thinks it’s unplugged when it’s actually charging .

The seat manages to catch my right nad when getting in - I have to consciencely sit in over the booster - seriously it’s had me crying twice. Now I’m 57 so possibly my space hoppers hang lower but it’s never happened before.

However it is a good car, the drive is smooth, it’s very quiet and in fully loaded project 45 trim £47k I think it’s a bargain.



Silverage

2,050 posts

131 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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3.6 is not too bad depending on the mix of speeds. If that was mainly 50/60/70 I’d be happy with that from my RWD version.

gangzoom

6,350 posts

216 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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Silverage said:
3.6 is not too bad depending on the mix of speeds. If that was mainly 50/60/70 I’d be happy with that from my RWD version.
Its not bad, and on par with an iPace/eTron etc, but no where near the 4-5+ miles/kWh a Kona/original Ionqi will do.

My own assumption was that Kia/Hyundai has some magic formula for consumption with how efficient their older cars are, but its now clearly not the case.

Like combustion cars, make a slow version with not much toys and you get better efficiency than a faster version with more stuff. In retrospect its pretty obvious.

JonnyVTEC

3,009 posts

176 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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The original Hyundai are compact,small wheeled single drive cars Lowe power… No magic sauce, just physics.

I kind of expected this when the larger vehicle appeared and more appropriate comparisons could be made

SWoll

18,593 posts

259 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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JonnyVTEC said:
The original Hyundai are compact,small wheeled single drive cars Lowe power… No magic sauce, just physics.

I kind of expected this when the larger vehicle appeared and more appropriate comparisons could be made
yes

As before, 2000+ Kg, 20" wheels with 255 tyres, dual motors and an average drag factor. What were people expecting?

DSLiverpool

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14,792 posts

203 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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So this morning we have a development ….

Small example I know but the best I’ve ever had around the doors.


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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Interesting mix of problems on Bjorns latest 1000km challenge with the 5

https://youtu.be/bi_sChlWTRc

not pre warming pack = low charge speeds

pack overheating causing low power (67kw??) and low charging speeds

280wh/km ?

Silverage

2,050 posts

131 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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The consensus in the comments seemed to be that car was faulty.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Sunday 10th October 2021
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Like the OP's ? I guess it could be but why is it not reporting issues?