My Ioniq5 P45 thread - from the start.
Discussion
DSLiverpool said:
They have offered to keep it for a week to see what they can get - I’m not in the mood to do that just now. I’ll get a few hundred more miles on it first.
I just thought if they ran your car alongside their demo over the same route in the same conditions that would instantly prove that there is something seriously wrong with your car when it comes back doing 33% fewer miles per kwh than theirs. I know their demo will almost certainly be a RWD Premium on 19s, but it shouldn’t make that much difference.Silverage said:
DSLiverpool said:
They have offered to keep it for a week to see what they can get - I’m not in the mood to do that just now. I’ll get a few hundred more miles on it first.
I just thought if they ran your car alongside their demo over the same route in the same conditions that would instantly prove that there is something seriously wrong with your car when it comes back doing 33% fewer miles per kwh than theirs. I know their demo will almost certainly be a RWD Premium on 19s, but it shouldn’t make that much difference.Hi DSL, don't know if you spotten this offer from dapprman ?
No idea what at KONNWEI '#=#'###'='='=####???? Don't know what it does but it sounds impressive.
No idea what at KONNWEI '#=#'###'='='=####???? Don't know what it does but it sounds impressive.
dapprman said:
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@DSLiverpool - hope you do get your car sorted soon - if you you end up needing to connect your car to a reader I have a spare KONNWEI KW902 Mini Bluetooth Wireless OBD-II OBD2 I can lend/drop in the post.
@DSLiverpool - hope you do get your car sorted soon - if you you end up needing to connect your car to a reader I have a spare KONNWEI KW902 Mini Bluetooth Wireless OBD-II OBD2 I can lend/drop in the post.
so called said:
Hi DSL, don't know if you spotten this offer from dapprman ?
No idea what at KONNWEI '#=#'###'='='=####???? Don't know what it does but it sounds impressive.
Didn’t see that, might be an option No idea what at KONNWEI '#=#'###'='='=####???? Don't know what it does but it sounds impressive.
dapprman said:
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@DSLiverpool - hope you do get your car sorted soon - if you you end up needing to connect your car to a reader I have a spare KONNWEI KW902 Mini Bluetooth Wireless OBD-II OBD2 I can lend/drop in the post.
@DSLiverpool - hope you do get your car sorted soon - if you you end up needing to connect your car to a reader I have a spare KONNWEI KW902 Mini Bluetooth Wireless OBD-II OBD2 I can lend/drop in the post.
so called said:
Hi DSL, don't know if you spotten this offer from dapprman ?
No idea what at KONNWEI '#=#'###'='='=####???? Don't know what it does but it sounds impressive.
It's a cheap clone of what appears to be the main bluetooth ODB-II dongle. I was sent an extra one by accident (or more accurately the first one took over a year to arrive).No idea what at KONNWEI '#=#'###'='='=####???? Don't know what it does but it sounds impressive.
dapprman said:
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@DSLiverpool - hope you do get your car sorted soon - if you you end up needing to connect your car to a reader I have a spare KONNWEI KW902 Mini Bluetooth Wireless OBD-II OBD2 I can lend/drop in the post.
@DSLiverpool - hope you do get your car sorted soon - if you you end up needing to connect your car to a reader I have a spare KONNWEI KW902 Mini Bluetooth Wireless OBD-II OBD2 I can lend/drop in the post.
I think I’ve Sussed the st range issue, regardless of driving mode the front wheels are always driven except on coasting.
As far as I can tell they shouldn’t do this except on start off or slippy roads or in sport mode.
The dealer said the car display isn’t accurate but others don’t have the display showing drive to the front wheels when doing 30 in eco.
Hyundai are a really st company in the U.K.
As far as I can tell they shouldn’t do this except on start off or slippy roads or in sport mode.
The dealer said the car display isn’t accurate but others don’t have the display showing drive to the front wheels when doing 30 in eco.
Hyundai are a really st company in the U.K.
Do you know anyone with a thermal camera? Might be worth giving the car a coat of looking-at after a decent run.
All that extra energy (and at 2.5 vs 4.0 mi/kWh, an hour's drive at an average 40mph would consume an additional 6kWh, so a fair amount of it!) has to be going somewhere, and if not propelling the car then it'll ultimately end up somewhere as heat. I'd check the motors, transmissions, tyres, brakes, inverter(s), battery pack.
Have got a handy little Flir thermal imager for work myself, but I'm quite a distance away from Liverpool.
All that extra energy (and at 2.5 vs 4.0 mi/kWh, an hour's drive at an average 40mph would consume an additional 6kWh, so a fair amount of it!) has to be going somewhere, and if not propelling the car then it'll ultimately end up somewhere as heat. I'd check the motors, transmissions, tyres, brakes, inverter(s), battery pack.
Have got a handy little Flir thermal imager for work myself, but I'm quite a distance away from Liverpool.
More st or less st - so yesterday in eco the front wheels were NOT being driven despite same environment as day before.
Miles per kWh on a 15 mile run 3.6 - hmm
I’ve realised the i pedal setting causes 4wd even in eco mode (!) lowering miles per kWh a lot.
Scheduled charging decided not to work
It’s thinks it’s unplugged when it’s actually charging .
The seat manages to catch my right nad when getting in - I have to consciencely sit in over the booster - seriously it’s had me crying twice. Now I’m 57 so possibly my space hoppers hang lower but it’s never happened before.
However it is a good car, the drive is smooth, it’s very quiet and in fully loaded project 45 trim £47k I think it’s a bargain.
Miles per kWh on a 15 mile run 3.6 - hmm
I’ve realised the i pedal setting causes 4wd even in eco mode (!) lowering miles per kWh a lot.
Scheduled charging decided not to work
It’s thinks it’s unplugged when it’s actually charging .
The seat manages to catch my right nad when getting in - I have to consciencely sit in over the booster - seriously it’s had me crying twice. Now I’m 57 so possibly my space hoppers hang lower but it’s never happened before.
However it is a good car, the drive is smooth, it’s very quiet and in fully loaded project 45 trim £47k I think it’s a bargain.
Silverage said:
3.6 is not too bad depending on the mix of speeds. If that was mainly 50/60/70 I’d be happy with that from my RWD version.
Its not bad, and on par with an iPace/eTron etc, but no where near the 4-5+ miles/kWh a Kona/original Ionqi will do. My own assumption was that Kia/Hyundai has some magic formula for consumption with how efficient their older cars are, but its now clearly not the case.
Like combustion cars, make a slow version with not much toys and you get better efficiency than a faster version with more stuff. In retrospect its pretty obvious.
JonnyVTEC said:
The original Hyundai are compact,small wheeled single drive cars Lowe power… No magic sauce, just physics.
I kind of expected this when the larger vehicle appeared and more appropriate comparisons could be made
I kind of expected this when the larger vehicle appeared and more appropriate comparisons could be made
As before, 2000+ Kg, 20" wheels with 255 tyres, dual motors and an average drag factor. What were people expecting?
Interesting mix of problems on Bjorns latest 1000km challenge with the 5
https://youtu.be/bi_sChlWTRc
not pre warming pack = low charge speeds
pack overheating causing low power (67kw??) and low charging speeds
280wh/km ?
https://youtu.be/bi_sChlWTRc
not pre warming pack = low charge speeds
pack overheating causing low power (67kw??) and low charging speeds
280wh/km ?
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