EV Charger Cable Protection
Discussion
J__Wood said:
Perhaps the OP is in the middle of a £5.9 million court case after a one legged, visually impaired, vicar tripped on OP's charging cable? 
Could be! 
Shame, as I’m really interested to see how it went. I’ve contacted my local council to see if they allow it like hants do. I also found that Gloucestershire allow it too, again with a cable protector the same as the OP used.
It has to be likely we'll see more councils go down the root of permitting 'safely' protected cables crossing paths etc at least until there are more general schemes to install pavement (pop up etc) chargers in such areas. It's an obvious way of going along with central government ideals to adopt EV without spending millions on infrastructure upfront.
I'll admit it's far from perfect, especially if you're blind and the bumps in the pavement change every time you walk down it... Although I suspect blind people are already used to changes in their environment for a million other potential reasons. We're in a transitionary period and such periods are always going to involve trial and error - I doubt that getting electricity a short hop from the supply to houses or along the street in to the cars will ultimately flummox mankind. Until it's all resolved nationally, I don't see any serious issues with councils giving the go-ahead to crossing pathways or EV drivers adopting that practice. It's literally a 'needs must' situation imposed on citizens due to incoming legislation preventing future ICE sales.
I'll admit it's far from perfect, especially if you're blind and the bumps in the pavement change every time you walk down it... Although I suspect blind people are already used to changes in their environment for a million other potential reasons. We're in a transitionary period and such periods are always going to involve trial and error - I doubt that getting electricity a short hop from the supply to houses or along the street in to the cars will ultimately flummox mankind. Until it's all resolved nationally, I don't see any serious issues with councils giving the go-ahead to crossing pathways or EV drivers adopting that practice. It's literally a 'needs must' situation imposed on citizens due to incoming legislation preventing future ICE sales.
TheDeuce said:
It has to be likely we'll see more councils go down the root of permitting 'safely' protected cables crossing paths etc at least until there are more general schemes to install pavement (pop up etc) chargers in such areas. It's an obvious way of going along with central government ideals to adopt EV without spending millions on infrastructure upfront.
I'll admit it's far from perfect, especially if you're blind and the bumps in the pavement change every time you walk down it... Although I suspect blind people are already used to changes in their environment for a million other potential reasons. We're in a transitionary period and such periods are always going to involve trial and error - I doubt that getting electricity a short hop from the supply to houses or along the street in to the cars will ultimately flummox mankind. Until it's all resolved nationally, I don't see any serious issues with councils giving the go-ahead to crossing pathways or EV drivers adopting that practice. It's literally a 'needs must' situation imposed on citizens due to incoming legislation preventing future ICE sales.
It isn’t that simple though. If people do like the OP and use their granny charger then they almost certainly won’t have appropriate earthing and RCD protection. I'll admit it's far from perfect, especially if you're blind and the bumps in the pavement change every time you walk down it... Although I suspect blind people are already used to changes in their environment for a million other potential reasons. We're in a transitionary period and such periods are always going to involve trial and error - I doubt that getting electricity a short hop from the supply to houses or along the street in to the cars will ultimately flummox mankind. Until it's all resolved nationally, I don't see any serious issues with councils giving the go-ahead to crossing pathways or EV drivers adopting that practice. It's literally a 'needs must' situation imposed on citizens due to incoming legislation preventing future ICE sales.
If people use mode 3 chargers then again have they been installed with appropriate earthing and RCD protection?
Doing so would need to be tightly regulated.
Furthermore, the OP’s cable protector is far from ideal for many footpath users.
pghstochaj said:
TheDeuce said:
It has to be likely we'll see more councils go down the root of permitting 'safely' protected cables crossing paths etc at least until there are more general schemes to install pavement (pop up etc) chargers in such areas. It's an obvious way of going along with central government ideals to adopt EV without spending millions on infrastructure upfront.
I'll admit it's far from perfect, especially if you're blind and the bumps in the pavement change every time you walk down it... Although I suspect blind people are already used to changes in their environment for a million other potential reasons. We're in a transitionary period and such periods are always going to involve trial and error - I doubt that getting electricity a short hop from the supply to houses or along the street in to the cars will ultimately flummox mankind. Until it's all resolved nationally, I don't see any serious issues with councils giving the go-ahead to crossing pathways or EV drivers adopting that practice. It's literally a 'needs must' situation imposed on citizens due to incoming legislation preventing future ICE sales.
It isn’t that simple though. If people do like the OP and use their granny charger then they almost certainly won’t have appropriate earthing and RCD protection. I'll admit it's far from perfect, especially if you're blind and the bumps in the pavement change every time you walk down it... Although I suspect blind people are already used to changes in their environment for a million other potential reasons. We're in a transitionary period and such periods are always going to involve trial and error - I doubt that getting electricity a short hop from the supply to houses or along the street in to the cars will ultimately flummox mankind. Until it's all resolved nationally, I don't see any serious issues with councils giving the go-ahead to crossing pathways or EV drivers adopting that practice. It's literally a 'needs must' situation imposed on citizens due to incoming legislation preventing future ICE sales.
If people use mode 3 chargers then again have they been installed with appropriate earthing and RCD protection?
Doing so would need to be tightly regulated.
Furthermore, the OP’s cable protector is far from ideal for many footpath users.
charging leads are a whole new ball game.
taking a power lead out.... thats 230 v where you dont really want it in the public domain. - all the proper connection plug and sockets being used, the cable protected outer insulation intact no breaks or damage - protected from water and all that would be encountered.
Your neighbour charges his car... his lead is 230v..... but you will have 400v between them.... see where this is going now.
it may be that the council will ban leads being run out unless the situation is properly managed and fully controlled. so those customers may be forced to use public charging at other locations, or make use of employee charging options.
id be inclined to do more research and consultation with councils on how they plan to address on street parking issues.
Simples, cable channel - I guess you would need planning permission though...
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F20CN16 said:
J__Wood said:
Perhaps the OP is in the middle of a £5.9 million court case after a one legged, visually impaired, vicar tripped on OP's charging cable?
Could be! Shame, as I’m really interested to see how it went. I’ve contacted my local council to see if they allow it like hants do. I also found that Gloucestershire allow it too, again with a cable protector the same as the OP used.
council said:
Unfortunately, Warwickshire does not allow cable to be trailed across the pavement even if a protective cable cover is used. Placing a cable across the footway would contravene the Highways Act 1980, specifically;
Section 137?Penalty for wilful obstruction. If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine.
Instead they are trialling the lamp post chargers and will likely roll this out to more areas soon. There are however just 3 lamp posts on my street of 12 houses and approx 20 cars...Section 137?Penalty for wilful obstruction. If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine.
F20CN16 said:
Instead they are trialling the lamp post chargers and will likely roll this out to more areas soon. There are however just 3 lamp posts on my street of 12 houses and approx 20 cars...
So assuming each post could deliver 85kW per day (3.6kw x 24hrs), that's 255kW in total for all 3 posts or 1785kw per week. For 20 cars that's 90kW per week each, or at 3.5 mile/kWh 315 miles of range per week.You'd just need to work out a rota as I assume not all 20 cars are out during the day or need to do 315 miles per week?
Simple.
SWoll said:
F20CN16 said:
Instead they are trialling the lamp post chargers and will likely roll this out to more areas soon. There are however just 3 lamp posts on my street of 12 houses and approx 20 cars...
So assuming each post could deliver 85kW per day (3.6kw x 24hrs), that's 255kW in total for all 3 posts or 1785kw per week. For 20 cars that's 90kW per week each, or at 3.5 mile/kWh 315 miles of range per week.You'd just need to work out a rota as I assume not all 20 cars are out during the day or need to do 315 miles per week?
Simple.
Actually I've just re-read the email and it says they are installing chargers using the electricity supplied to lamp posts, rather than installing chargers in the lamp posts. That makes sense as a charger in a lamp post would require the cable to cross the path 
So we may get more chargers than lamp posts, and they'll need to be on the curb edge too.Gassing Station | EV and Alternative Fuels | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff