EV range for 148 mile motorway commute

[acer12]

Make sure you are confident of the work charger being available. Assume it would be disaster scenario if you rock up on the Friday and charger is broken or all taken up and you are facing your long journey home that evening not having seen your family all week.

More staff are buying ev’s and relying on work chargers and this will continue to grow

[dmsims]

OP said

LeeM135i said:

I will drive down on Monday stay in a hotel and drive home on Thursday or Friday.

so those probelms are irrelevant

[TheDeuce]

acer12 said:

Make sure you are confident of the work charger being available. Assume it would be disaster scenario if you rock up on the Friday and charger is broken or all taken up and you are facing your long journey home that evening not having seen your family all week.

More staff are buying ev’s and relying on work chargers and this will continue to grow

He doesn't need a dedicated charger at work anyway, just the three pin granny charger would do, which can use any standard socket. That's what I do at my work premesis.

Or if there is a proper charger at work, the OP has plenty of time to wait for it to be available.. they only need 150 miles of charge during the course of three full days.

[LeeM135i]

Given I will have all week to recharge it I use a 3 pin plug for 8/10 hours a day, if the dedicated charger is out of action, and should be fully charged for the drive home.

Also pretty sure the nice people in the office will unplug and let me have some electricity as I have to get home.

[Mits]

I would keep the c63 and buy a i3. I’m in a similar situation and have one petrol car for weekends and a 2018 i3s Rex for a motorway and london commute of 110m round trip two times a week. Keep between 65-70 in eco pro.

All easily done on electric using the Rex 3 months of the year in the winter, probably around £100 over this period. Charge at home for £2.50. Buy a pre March 2017 for no road tax.

[Captain_Morgan]

Have you considered using one of the companies who do month to month ev leases, obviously more expensive than a standard lease but would allow you to try an ev with minimal exposure

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2021/mar/14/firs...

I think there are a few operating this model now

[SWoll]

Captain_Morgan said:

Have you considered using one of the companies who do month to month ev leases, obviously more expensive than a standard lease but would allow you to try an ev with minimal exposure

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2021/mar/14/firs...

I think there are a few operating this model now

I can recommend on.to as a long term user. Prices are actually very good for many models when you consider what's included and the lack of commitment in comparison to even a 2 year lease.

ID3 Family Pro performance

Standard 2 year, 24k mile lease without maintenance.



on.to. 12k miles per year, 1 month commitment, maintenance and public charging included.

[NDA]

gotoPzero said:

You arrive home with lets say 20 mi in the tank.

Then the mrs says can you just pop to B&Q or whatever. Or the phone rings and kid is not well and you need to go to pick them up. Or you get home and the dog is not well and you need to go to the vets Etc etc etc.

Yep, very true.

In my 12 months of EV ownership, I have not needed to make any unscheduled trips - I charge overnight etc. I also commute with a 160 mile (round trip) in it. Were I to need any lengthy unplanned trip after my commute, I could go to a supercharger - but I definitely take your point.

[LeeM135i]

Thanks for all of the suggestions. I have decided for now to just spend £15k on a petrol / diesel car, probably something newish like a 2016/2017/2018 Astra/Focus/Leon/Octavia and run it for a few years until EV can cover this journey.

Looked at plug in EV i3/Prius/etron/GTE but they are significantly more expensive than a straight up petrol/diesel but more compromised on space etc.

I will keep an eye on the EV market and have a go when the range / price are more in my favour.

Again thanks everyone for your thoughts and ideas!

[SWoll]

NDA said:

gotoPzero said:

You arrive home with lets say 20 mi in the tank.

Then the mrs says can you just pop to B&Q or whatever. Or the phone rings and kid is not well and you need to go to pick them up. Or you get home and the dog is not well and you need to go to the vets Etc etc etc.

Yep, very true.

In my 12 months of EV ownership, I have not needed to make any unscheduled trips - I charge overnight etc. I also commute with a 160 mile (round trip) in it. Were I to need any lengthy unplanned trip after my commute, I could go to a supercharger - but I definitely take your point.

In 3 years it's happened a couple of times, but as our normal daily use only requires 25% or less of the total range and we top up overnight it didn't cause any issues for us as make sure we have 100-150 miles available at all times just in case.

If you're regularly doing trips that would drop the battery to low levels then definitely more of a challenge. Just need to understand your usage cycle and how problematic it could be for you.

[kambites]

SWoll said:

I can recommend on.to as a long term user. Prices are actually very good for many models when you consider what's included and the lack of commitment in comparison to even a 2 year lease.

ID3 Family Pro performance

Standard 2 year, 24k mile lease without maintenance.



on.to. 12k miles per year, 1 month commitment, maintenance and public charging included.

Over £500 a month to lease an ID3?!

[Bannock]

kambites said:

SWoll said:

I can recommend on.to as a long term user. Prices are actually very good for many models when you consider what's included and the lack of commitment in comparison to even a 2 year lease.

ID3 Family Pro performance

Standard 2 year, 24k mile lease without maintenance.



on.to. 12k miles per year, 1 month commitment, maintenance and public charging included.

Over £500 a month to lease an ID3?!

Did you see "charging included"? The alternative is probably £250 a month to lease a diesel Golf, plus £250 a month in fuel...and even if charging wasn't included on the ID3, the cost of home charging would be minimal. When you add the mopnthly elase for an ICE car to the fuel bills it'll add up to about the same as leasing an EV, so long as you're doing sufficient mileage. Which at 12k miles a year, one would most likely be.

[kambites]

Bannock said:

Did you see "charging included"?

Yes I did, and it's still a crazy amount of money for a decidedly mediocre car!

No-one is going to spend £250 a month to do 12k miles a year in a diesel Golf. That would equate to about 25mpg at current UK fuel prices.

Edited by kambites on Monday 24th January 13:36

[Bannock]

kambites said:

Bannock said:

Did you see "charging included"?

Yes I did, and it's still a crazy amount of money for a decidedly mediocre car!

No-one is going to spend £250 a month to do 12k miles a year in a diesel Golf. That would equate to about 25mpg at current UK fuel prices.

Edited by kambites on Monday 24th January 13:36

Sorry I don't have the time to provide fully costed figures for every possible use case, the point I was making is that for most folk if you add the monthlies to lease an ICE Golf to the fuel they have to buy, you'll come out roughly the same as the monthlies for leasing an ID3 plus electricity. I thought that was fairly obviously my point.

Also would have thought it goes without saying that if it doesn't add up like that for any given person, then no, the ID3 probably isn't a good idea unless you have compelling other reasons to be happy to pay the extra - e.g. commitment to not poisioning eveyone in the neighbourhood's lungs etc.

It just strikes me people are too apt to look at the headline price of an EV and dismiss the idea out of hand without accounting for the reduced running costs you will benefit from.

[kambites]

Bannock said:

Sorry I don't have the time to provide fully costed figures for every possible use case, the point I was making is that for most folk if you add the monthlies to lease an ICE Golf to the fuel they have to buy, you'll come out roughly the same as the monthlies for leasing an ID3 plus electricity. I thought that was fairly obviously my point.

It was obvious what you meant, I just don't believe it's remotely true if the ID3 is really that expensive to lease! I just can't get my head around the idea of spending £6000 a year to run something so... meh. If people are really spending that much to run diesel Golfs then that's crazy too!

ETA: I guess if you're 17 and paying £2k a year for insurance it might make sense.

[ajap1979]

kambites said:

SWoll said:

I can recommend on.to as a long term user. Prices are actually very good for many models when you consider what's included and the lack of commitment in comparison to even a 2 year lease.

ID3 Family Pro performance

Standard 2 year, 24k mile lease without maintenance.



on.to. 12k miles per year, 1 month commitment, maintenance and public charging included.

Over £500 a month to lease an ID3?!

They're just not supported anymore. A week ago CVL were doing the same car, same terms for £370 a month, but the increase in cost aligns with the fact you're looking at 12+ months wait now. Some dealers aren't even taking orders, and those that are, are doing so without taking a deposit.

[kambites]

ajap1979 said:

They're just not supported anymore. A week ago CVL were doing the same car, same terms for £370 a month, but the increase in cost aligns with the fact you're looking at 12+ months wait now. Some dealers aren't even taking orders, and those that are, are doing so without taking a deposit.

£370 a month is more the sort of thing I would have expected, certainly. I didn't realise lease prices had jumped at 50% in the last few weeks.

[CABC]

what charge is included? is it all public networks or limited?

[Bannock]

kambites said:

Bannock said:

Sorry I don't have the time to provide fully costed figures for every possible use case, the point I was making is that for most folk if you add the monthlies to lease an ICE Golf to the fuel they have to buy, you'll come out roughly the same as the monthlies for leasing an ID3 plus electricity. I thought that was fairly obviously my point.

It was obvious what you meant, I just don't believe it's remotely true if the ID3 is really that expensive to lease! I just can't get my head around the idea of spending £6000 a year to run something so... meh. If people are really spending that much to run diesel Golfs then that's crazy too!

Just had a very quick look at Select Car Leasing, you can get an ID3 for under £300 a month at 10k miles a year inc VAT. A Golf TSI is in the £275 range.

[kambites]

Bannock said:

Just had a very quick look at Select Car Leasing, you can get an ID3 for under £300 a month at 10k miles a year inc VAT. A Golf TSI is in the £275 range.

That's far more sensible if it includes all the fees and the deposit! In fact that seems almost unbelievably cheap?