So who is getting a Model 3?

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RobDickinson

31,343 posts

256 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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DoubleD said:
Why have they made Teslas look so bland?
Because trying to sell someone one new idea at a time is enough?

Many EVs are overly modern styled but in an awkward geeky way that screams ev.

These are for people that just want a car that blends in that happens to run on electricity.

Heres Johnny

7,271 posts

126 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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David87 said:
So when's the full unveil of the production-spec car then, with options and prices etc.? Apologies if I've missed this!

Edited by David87 on Monday 10th July 23:00
Don't think you've missed anything.. they're making them yet we've no release pictures of the final production interior, how speed is displayed etc. A bit bizarre given they took deposits so quickly

gangzoom

6,406 posts

217 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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28th of July is first hand-over event so I suspect full specs will be out than. But given it's a Tesla those specs will have changed by the time the first RHD cars are delivered.

The 3 is growing on me, not as the main family wagon but as a second car on the driveway it will do the job nicely. Wife also likes how it looks in black, so essentially got the go ahead to order one now to replace her Lexus smile.

I'll wait for the larger battery version though, 75kWh usable with an efficiency of 4 miles per kWh at M way speeds will do me nicely.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

200 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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gangzoom said:
28th of July is first hand-over event so I suspect full specs will be out than. But given it's a Tesla those specs will have changed by the time the first RHD cars are delivered.

The 3 is growing on me, not as the main family wagon but as a second car on the driveway it will do the job nicely. Wife also likes how it looks in black, so essentially got the go ahead to order one now to replace her Lexus smile.

I'll wait for the larger battery version though, 75kWh usable with an efficiency of 4 miles per kWh at M way speeds will do me nicely.
lol first world problems 2nd car it will do it's only £35-40k

To the vast majority of UK population and car owners that's an eye watering amount to spend on a main car let alone second.

p1stonhead

25,857 posts

169 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Welshbeef said:
gangzoom said:
28th of July is first hand-over event so I suspect full specs will be out than. But given it's a Tesla those specs will have changed by the time the first RHD cars are delivered.

The 3 is growing on me, not as the main family wagon but as a second car on the driveway it will do the job nicely. Wife also likes how it looks in black, so essentially got the go ahead to order one now to replace her Lexus smile.

I'll wait for the larger battery version though, 75kWh usable with an efficiency of 4 miles per kWh at M way speeds will do me nicely.
lol first world problems 2nd car it will do it's only £35-40k

To the vast majority of UK population and car owners that's an eye watering amount to spend on a main car let alone second.
Is it really when a golf can be that much and most will just buy it on finance or lease? Although lease deals on Tesla's have left a lot to be desired in the past.

Dazed and Confused

979 posts

84 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Welshbeef said:
gangzoom said:
28th of July is first hand-over event so I suspect full specs will be out than. But given it's a Tesla those specs will have changed by the time the first RHD cars are delivered.

The 3 is growing on me, not as the main family wagon but as a second car on the driveway it will do the job nicely. Wife also likes how it looks in black, so essentially got the go ahead to order one now to replace her Lexus smile.

I'll wait for the larger battery version though, 75kWh usable with an efficiency of 4 miles per kWh at M way speeds will do me nicely.
lol first world problems 2nd car it will do it's only £35-40k

To the vast majority of UK population and car owners that's an eye watering amount to spend on a main car let alone second.
Is it really when a golf can be that much and most will just buy it on finance or lease? Although lease deals on Tesla's have left a lot to be desired in the past.
Golf at least has the decency to appear to be a quality product.

Zoon

6,737 posts

123 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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The pricing puts me off, a US price of 35k, which equates to 27k here at present rates but the people in the know seem to suggest a $ for £ swap, making it £35k here.

CooperS

4,510 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Dazed and Confused said:
p1stonhead said:
Welshbeef said:
gangzoom said:
28th of July is first hand-over event so I suspect full specs will be out than. But given it's a Tesla those specs will have changed by the time the first RHD cars are delivered.

The 3 is growing on me, not as the main family wagon but as a second car on the driveway it will do the job nicely. Wife also likes how it looks in black, so essentially got the go ahead to order one now to replace her Lexus smile.

I'll wait for the larger battery version though, 75kWh usable with an efficiency of 4 miles per kWh at M way speeds will do me nicely.
lol first world problems 2nd car it will do it's only £35-40k

To the vast majority of UK population and car owners that's an eye watering amount to spend on a main car let alone second.
Is it really when a golf can be that much and most will just buy it on finance or lease? Although lease deals on Tesla's have left a lot to be desired in the past.
Golf at least has the decency to appear to be a quality product.
I'm not in a Tesla fanboy but when does Tesla go out of its way to demonstrate its not a quality product..... If your going off your travels through internet forums and own bias people can form the same opinions about dodgy VAG engines and cheop plastic parts not livong upto peoples expectstions....also mostly unfounded when compared to the volume of cars they sell....

audi321

5,318 posts

215 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Zoon said:
The pricing puts me off, a US price of 35k, which equates to 27k here at present rates but the people in the know seem to suggest a $ for £ swap, making it £35k here.
Me too. Don't forget the $35k is before local sales tax, so in other words, add 20% VAT to whatever the UK price converts to.

I wouldn't be surprised if the basic model is over £40k

p1stonhead

25,857 posts

169 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Zoon said:
The pricing puts me off, a US price of 35k, which equates to 27k here at present rates but the people in the know seem to suggest a $ for £ swap, making it £35k here.
Apple products are priced at 1:1 already I expect Tesla to be no different;

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-ipad/ipad-pro/12.9-...
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-ipad/ipad-pro/12...

Heres Johnny

7,271 posts

126 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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CooperS said:
I'm not in a Tesla fanboy but when does Tesla go out of its way to demonstrate its not a quality product..... If your going off your travels through internet forums and own bias people can form the same opinions about dodgy VAG engines and cheop plastic parts not livong upto peoples expectstions....also mostly unfounded when compared to the volume of cars they sell....
They don't demonstrate it but there is plenty of evidence

An A pillar they delivered to a customer - the split was painted over and yet it got through all their quality gates


A wheel that rubs on the wheel lining


are just two that came to hand. If you followed the owners forum (its not easy I admit as its closed to owners) its widely accepted that the quality of the cars being delivered now is not good. I'd also suggest opening the boot on a model S and taking a look at the quality of the rear parcel shelf - if that's expensive compared to the model 3, the model 3 will be made of cardboard.

But your wider point about golfs and the issues with those is true.

p1stonhead

25,857 posts

169 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Heres Johnny said:
CooperS said:
I'm not in a Tesla fanboy but when does Tesla go out of its way to demonstrate its not a quality product..... If your going off your travels through internet forums and own bias people can form the same opinions about dodgy VAG engines and cheop plastic parts not livong upto peoples expectstions....also mostly unfounded when compared to the volume of cars they sell....
They don't demonstrate it but there is plenty of evidence

An A pillar they delivered to a customer - the split was painted over and yet it got through all their quality gates


A wheel that rubs on the wheel lining


are just two that came to hand. If you followed the owners forum (its not easy I admit as its closed to owners) its widely accepted that the quality of the cars being delivered now is not good. I'd also suggest opening the boot on a model S and taking a look at the quality of the rear parcel shelf - if that's expensive compared to the model 3, the model 3 will be made of cardboard.

But your wider point about golfs and the issues with those is true.
Didnt the 458 burst into flames randomly a few times?

Not saying they dont have issues, but there will always be ridiculous exceptions to rules.

Tesla came top of an owner satisfaction survey just last year;
http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-own...

Heres Johnny

7,271 posts

126 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Didnt the 458 burst into flames randomly a few times?

Not saying they dont have issues, but there will always be ridiculous exceptions to rules.

Tesla came top of an owner satisfaction survey just last year;
http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-own...
And this year they say this..

http://www.consumerreports.org/cars-tesla-reliabil...

p1stonhead

25,857 posts

169 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Heres Johnny said:
p1stonhead said:
Didnt the 458 burst into flames randomly a few times?

Not saying they dont have issues, but there will always be ridiculous exceptions to rules.

Tesla came top of an owner satisfaction survey just last year;
http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-own...
And this year they say this..

http://www.consumerreports.org/cars-tesla-reliabil...
October 2015 wink

Dazed and Confused

979 posts

84 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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CooperS said:
Dazed and Confused said:
p1stonhead said:
Welshbeef said:
gangzoom said:
28th of July is first hand-over event so I suspect full specs will be out than. But given it's a Tesla those specs will have changed by the time the first RHD cars are delivered.

The 3 is growing on me, not as the main family wagon but as a second car on the driveway it will do the job nicely. Wife also likes how it looks in black, so essentially got the go ahead to order one now to replace her Lexus smile.

I'll wait for the larger battery version though, 75kWh usable with an efficiency of 4 miles per kWh at M way speeds will do me nicely.
lol first world problems 2nd car it will do it's only £35-40k

To the vast majority of UK population and car owners that's an eye watering amount to spend on a main car let alone second.
Is it really when a golf can be that much and most will just buy it on finance or lease? Although lease deals on Tesla's have left a lot to be desired in the past.
Golf at least has the decency to appear to be a quality product.
I'm not in a Tesla fanboy but when does Tesla go out of its way to demonstrate its not a quality product..... If your going off your travels through internet forums and own bias people can form the same opinions about dodgy VAG engines and cheop plastic parts not livong upto peoples expectstions....also mostly unfounded when compared to the volume of cars they sell....
Do not think the front of the 3 looks rather cheap and nasty.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

239 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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At the end of the day, it's an American car, not a German car. Never mind about the price, or whether it's 'Premium' or not.

My expectation of quality is lower when I get in an American car.

Heres Johnny

7,271 posts

126 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Heres Johnny said:
p1stonhead said:
Didnt the 458 burst into flames randomly a few times?

Not saying they dont have issues, but there will always be ridiculous exceptions to rules.

Tesla came top of an owner satisfaction survey just last year;
http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-own...
And this year they say this..

http://www.consumerreports.org/cars-tesla-reliabil...
October 2015 wink
Meant this one

http://www.consumerreports.org/tesla/tesla-model-s...

p1stonhead

25,857 posts

169 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Heres Johnny said:
p1stonhead said:
Heres Johnny said:
p1stonhead said:
Didnt the 458 burst into flames randomly a few times?

Not saying they dont have issues, but there will always be ridiculous exceptions to rules.

Tesla came top of an owner satisfaction survey just last year;
http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-own...
And this year they say this..

http://www.consumerreports.org/cars-tesla-reliabil...
October 2015 wink
Meant this one

http://www.consumerreports.org/tesla/tesla-model-s...
Thats not a quality issue though its just a 'they didnt do what they said' issue. Still affects satisfaction but they must be still very close to the top of the list?

Heres Johnny

7,271 posts

126 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Thats not a quality issue though its just a 'they didnt do what they said' issue. Still affects satisfaction but they must be still very close to the top of the list?
Go for this one then

http://jalopnik.com/the-tesla-model-x-is-suffering...

Or read this thread

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/terrible-q...

Or a thousand others like it.

A guys posted this the other day..

"Question re loaners and insurance.
Tesla informed me a day or so ago I'll be in a loan car for 2 more months. I called my insurance to advise as it's now a fairly lengthy period. Direct Line are asking £250ish to add the vehicle as a temporary additional car (I spent an hour on the phone with them last night explaining it's not actually additional)."

TWO MORE MONTHS while they fix his delivery issues. FFS

The owners group did a poll, 240 responded... half had issues, 4 of which meant they couldn't even leave with their car! That's just shy of 2%

If BMW, AUDI or any other company had 2% of customer unable to leave with their brand new car...! Even accepting not everyone is on a forum, but given they only deliver 1000 cars a year in the uk, thats still going to be 0.5% this year


Edited by Heres Johnny on Tuesday 11th July 16:23

p1stonhead

25,857 posts

169 months

Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Heres Johnny said:
p1stonhead said:
Thats not a quality issue though its just a 'they didnt do what they said' issue. Still affects satisfaction but they must be still very close to the top of the list?
Go for this one then

http://jalopnik.com/the-tesla-model-x-is-suffering...

Or read this thread

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/terrible-q...

Or a thousand others like it.

A guys posted this the other day..

"Question re loaners and insurance.
Tesla informed me a day or so ago I'll be in a loan car for 2 more months. I called my insurance to advise as it's now a fairly lengthy period. Direct Line are asking £250ish to add the vehicle as a temporary additional car (I spent an hour on the phone with them last night explaining it's not actually additional)."

TWO MORE MONTHS while they fix his delivery issues. FFS
There is a thread here posted the past month where someones Boxster was made with the wrong gearbox. I believe has a loaner for several months until sorted.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Internet anecdotes exist for every manufacturer.