Which home charging point?

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Phunk

1,978 posts

173 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Moley RUFC said:
Another vote for the EO Pro Mini. Small and discrete…

I have the same charger yet only have one cable going to it, any idea why there are two cables going to yours?

Moley RUFC

3,635 posts

191 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Something to do with the earth cabling from memory. Mines been in a year maybe they’ve developed them better now?

PF62

3,729 posts

175 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Moley RUFC said:
Another vote for the EO Pro Mini. Small and discrete…
And a right old hassle getting the cable out of the boot every time and then winding up the wet and dirty cable afterwards to put back in the boot.

Moley RUFC

3,635 posts

191 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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PF62 said:
And a right old hassle getting the cable out of the boot every time and then winding up the wet and dirty cable afterwards to put back in the boot.
Nope. A bi-weekly task that takes about 2 minutes.

ZesPak

24,450 posts

198 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Moley RUFC said:
PF62 said:
And a right old hassle getting the cable out of the boot every time and then winding up the wet and dirty cable afterwards to put back in the boot.
Nope. A bi-weekly task that takes about 2 minutes.
yes

I had to charge every two days, wouldn't get anything else than a tethered charger.

But if I had to do it once every two weeks...

Phunk

1,978 posts

173 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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ZesPak said:
Moley RUFC said:
PF62 said:
And a right old hassle getting the cable out of the boot every time and then winding up the wet and dirty cable afterwards to put back in the boot.
Nope. A bi-weekly task that takes about 2 minutes.
yes

I had to charge every two days, wouldn't get anything else than a tethered charger.

But if I had to do it once every two weeks...
We just leave our cable plugged in, we currently have a gen 1 Leaf which is Type 1, so it would be a faff to change the tethered cable to Type 2 in the future.

Cobnapint

8,647 posts

153 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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PF62 said:
Toaster Pilot said:
PF62 said:
No because there were damn all EVs on the road when Type 1 existed, and certainly not the ubiquitous public charging at supermarkets, lamp posts, car parks, etc. with cars charging for scrotes to do their mischief.
EO chargers aren’t going to be found in any of those locations though
But the EO chargers may be now be installed by people who don't have drives and choose to string the charging cable over the pavement, and that would be a temptation for someone to disconnect it.
This is clearly going to become an issue in the coming years. Unplugging EVs will be the new knock and run, or standing wiper arms off the windscreen - except neither of those will stop you going to work in the morning.
Is there a way the charger or car can communicate with the owner via an app or something, notifying them when charging has prematurely ended?

Evanivitch

20,460 posts

124 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Cobnapint said:
This is clearly going to become an issue in the coming years. Unplugging EVs will be the new knock and run, or standing wiper arms off the windscreen - except neither of those will stop you going to work in the morning.
Is there a way the charger or car can communicate with the owner via an app or something, notifying them when charging has prematurely ended?
The charge cable is locked to the car...

Martyn76

654 posts

119 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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Hi All,

Starting to look at changing to a BEV from our old 330Dand have started thinking about home charging points and came across a video on YT where an electrician was talking about the main fuse and how it should be 100amp, our is 82 I think, was this an issue for anyone when getting their home charger installed?

Frimley111R

15,719 posts

236 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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Martyn76 said:
Hi All,

Starting to look at changing to a BEV from our old 330Dand have started thinking about home charging points and came across a video on YT where an electrician was talking about the main fuse and how it should be 100amp, our is 82 I think, was this an issue for anyone when getting their home charger installed?
Yes, you need 100A main fuse. Talk to your electricity supplier and they will change this without cost to you. Fuses are usually 80 or 100 but occasionally 60.

annodomini2

6,877 posts

253 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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Martyn76 said:
Hi All,

Starting to look at changing to a BEV from our old 330Dand have started thinking about home charging points and came across a video on YT where an electrician was talking about the main fuse and how it should be 100amp, our is 82 I think, was this an issue for anyone when getting their home charger installed?
Depends on your house, some would be fine, others not.

Suggest getting a quote.

Frimley111R

15,719 posts

236 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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Phunk said:
I have the same charger yet only have one cable going to it, any idea why there are two cables going to yours?
It depends when it was fitted. About 2 yrs ago the EO mini (and many others) had to have an earthing spike fitted. Before that they didn't. Just a minor change in the regs. They still need it but some chargers don't as the earthing protection is built in.

Martyn76

654 posts

119 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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Frimley111R said:
Martyn76 said:
Hi All,

Starting to look at changing to a BEV from our old 330Dand have started thinking about home charging points and came across a video on YT where an electrician was talking about the main fuse and how it should be 100amp, our is 82 I think, was this an issue for anyone when getting their home charger installed?
Yes, you need 100A main fuse. Talk to your electricity supplier and they will change this without cost to you. Fuses are usually 80 or 100 but occasionally 60.
Would that be who I get my current utilities from (SSE) or from the "grid" people?

Little Lofty

3,330 posts

153 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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I’ve decided on a Hypervolt, I got a quote from a local fitter but he's gone awol, so if anyone can recommend another fitter who covers NE England I'm all ears, thanks.

wobert

5,072 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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An update on my Wallbox install with No Fuel Needed.

Planned for 12/7, which allowed the statutory 14 days for the DNO to come through from Scottish Power.

Nothing received back as of yet, so appointment rescheduled to 17/7 on the basis the agreement will come through in the interim.

Likewise, have moved supply to EDF to enable use of the overnight tariff, supply switched but awaiting an appointment to fit a smart meter to enable the lower tariff usage. They reckon 2 weeks lead time.

By my reckoning it’ll be end of August before we are done with the charge point install and tariff switchover… frown

techguyone

3,137 posts

144 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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Frimley111R said:
Martyn76 said:
Hi All,

Starting to look at changing to a BEV from our old 330Dand have started thinking about home charging points and came across a video on YT where an electrician was talking about the main fuse and how it should be 100amp, our is 82 I think, was this an issue for anyone when getting their home charger installed?
Yes, you need 100A main fuse. Talk to your electricity supplier and they will change this without cost to you. Fuses are usually 80 or 100 but occasionally 60.
Ours is a 60 which is a bit annoying, it doesn't look like it piggybacks on to anyone else though, what would need to be changed beyond the fuse itself, would the wiring need to be beefier too to support a 100 amp fuse?

LordGrover

33,556 posts

214 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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Martyn76 said:
Hi All,

Starting to look at changing to a BEV from our old 330Dand have started thinking about home charging points and came across a video on YT where an electrician was talking about the main fuse and how it should be 100amp, our is 82 I think, was this an issue for anyone when getting their home charger installed?
Check to make sure you don't have a looped supply too.
I have 100A fuse but looped supply. It's taken about a month to get that unlooped (tomorrow and Friday hopefully) which was a quick turnaround according to most - it may take months depending on DNO.
Fingers crossed Hypervolt will be installed on Monday.

PF62

3,729 posts

175 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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techguyone said:
Ours is a 60 which is a bit annoying, it doesn't look like it piggybacks on to anyone else though, what would need to be changed beyond the fuse itself, would the wiring need to be beefier too to support a 100 amp fuse?
Details here - https://innovation.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/wp-conten... Depending on your location you might be dealing with someone other than UK Power Networks but the principles will be the same.

Martyn76

654 posts

119 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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techguyone said:
Frimley111R said:
Martyn76 said:
Hi All,

Starting to look at changing to a BEV from our old 330Dand have started thinking about home charging points and came across a video on YT where an electrician was talking about the main fuse and how it should be 100amp, our is 82 I think, was this an issue for anyone when getting their home charger installed?
Yes, you need 100A main fuse. Talk to your electricity supplier and they will change this without cost to you. Fuses are usually 80 or 100 but occasionally 60.
Ours is a 60 which is a bit annoying, it doesn't look like it piggybacks on to anyone else though, what would need to be changed beyond the fuse itself, would the wiring need to be beefier too to support a 100 amp fuse?
I came across this, makes it nice and clear: https://www.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/electricity/fuse...

Martyn76

654 posts

119 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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LordGrover said:
Martyn76 said:
Hi All,

Starting to look at changing to a BEV from our old 330Dand have started thinking about home charging points and came across a video on YT where an electrician was talking about the main fuse and how it should be 100amp, our is 82 I think, was this an issue for anyone when getting their home charger installed?
Check to make sure you don't have a looped supply too.
I have 100A fuse but looped supply. It's taken about a month to get that unlooped (tomorrow and Friday hopefully) which was a quick turnaround according to most - it may take months depending on DNO.
Fingers crossed Hypervolt will be installed on Monday.
Had a look and it doesn't look like a loop (only one cable in), the "tails" look pretty chunky too.