Reasons Tesla are the only current good choice to buy

[ZesPak]

littleredrooster said:

Ecotricity is the only account we had access to. Which is another valid point - which of the 15+ providers do you have to have an account with? Register with all of them, fer goodness sake???

I want to address this again. Is this really a thing in the UK?

As a backup to Tesla chargers, I got a Shell token. In the Netherlands that covers everything, and it covers most of the chargers in Europe...

[DragonflyTrumpeter]

ZesPak said:

I want to address this again. Is this really a thing in the UK?

As a backup to Tesla chargers, I got a Shell token. In the Netherlands that covers everything, and it covers most of the chargers in Europe...

I live in the UK, in quite a civilised part of Scotland actually. Is Tesla even a thing in the UK?

Tesla was taken off our cc list due to a few issues, mainly problems with existing Teslas in the fleet but also the complete lack of charging facilities. For me, it is over 2 hrs driving to get to the nearest Tesla charger and there are only 5 in the whole country. And the 2 main ones are only 20 miles apart, go figure. Aberdeen is a wealthy city with a population of around 230,000 people, rumour has it there will be a Tesla supercharger available when it hits 250k punters

At least chargeplace Scotland is still free

[jamoor]

DragonflyTrumpeter said:

I live in the UK, in quite a civilised part of Scotland actually. Is Tesla even a thing in the UK?

Tesla was taken off our cc list due to a few issues, mainly problems with existing Teslas in the fleet but also the complete lack of charging facilities. For me, it is over 2 hrs driving to get to the nearest Tesla charger and there are only 5 in the whole country. And the 2 main ones are only 20 miles apart, go figure. Aberdeen is a wealthy city with a population of around 230,000 people, rumour has it there will be a Tesla supercharger available when it hits 250k punters

At least chargeplace Scotland is still free

They don’t really put them in cities, they put them on motorways and trunk roads for people doing long distances to charge.

[anonymous-user]

DragonflyTrumpeter said:

I live in the UK, in quite a civilised part of Scotland actually. Is Tesla even a thing in the UK?

Tesla was taken off our cc list due to a few issues, mainly problems with existing Teslas in the fleet but also the complete lack of charging facilities. For me, it is over 2 hrs driving to get to the nearest Tesla charger and there are only 5 in the whole country. And the 2 main ones are only 20 miles apart, go figure. Aberdeen is a wealthy city with a population of around 230,000 people, rumour has it there will be a Tesla supercharger available when it hits 250k punters

At least chargeplace Scotland is still free

Not free for long.... if it hasn't been nuked already. I enjoyed 6 months of free fuel, but over near me now.

2 hours from your house sounds like a good place for a supercharger?

Supercharger in fort william would be handy for west coast trips.

[ZesPak]

DragonflyTrumpeter said:

I live in the UK, in quite a civilised part of Scotland actually. Is Tesla even a thing in the UK?

Tesla was taken off our cc list due to a few issues, mainly problems with existing Teslas in the fleet but also the complete lack of charging facilities. For me, it is over 2 hrs driving to get to the nearest Tesla charger and there are only 5 in the whole country. And the 2 main ones are only 20 miles apart, go figure. Aberdeen is a wealthy city with a population of around 230,000 people, rumour has it there will be a Tesla supercharger available when it hits 250k punters

At least chargeplace Scotland is still free

This is not Tesla specific then as Tesla's can charge on other charges as well?

[DragonflyTrumpeter]

jamoor said:

They don’t really put them in cities, they put them on motorways and trunk roads for people doing long distances to charge.

Okay, the nearest one to Aberdeen is 65 miles south. There is a huge chunk of Scotland and a large population north of Dundee on the East and Aviemore on the west and we do have roads going in and out of cities up here as well. They don't put them in cities, you are right. They don't put them anywhere.

ZesPak said:

This is not Tesla specific then as Tesla's can charge on other charges as well?

The thread is about reasons to buy Tesla, and in general across this board their famed supercharger network is the dog's nuts. I merely pointed out that, specifically, in Scotland Tesla service is utter garbage.

Are you now saying slow, dodgy public charging is the way to go? Defeats the purpose of spending the extra on a Tesla then, it is on a par with my Leaf

[RobDickinson]

You dont need a fast charger near home usually.

You charge at home or when parked on level 2 charging.

You need the fast charger 200+ miles away.

[DragonflyTrumpeter]

sambucket said:

Not free for long.... if it hasn't been nuked already. I enjoyed 6 months of free fuel, but over near me now.

2 hours from your house sounds like a good place for a supercharger?

Supercharger in fort william would be handy for west coast trips.

Still free so far and a while to go yet if they can be believed.

2 hours from my house did look good for my needs. As a leaf owner, I wanted an ev as my main drive and only considered Tesla until our company vetoed them. I have a regular 450 mile round trip with nothing but hassle to charge at destination so a LR Tesla was the only one that looked feasible for the 240 miles in between without a time consuming detour for a slow charge as well.

Maybe another quality hybrid was a blessing this time, no doubt there will be better car and charging options next time around.

[DragonflyTrumpeter]

RobDickinson said:

You dont need a fast charger near home usually.

You charge at home or when parked on level 2 charging.

You need the fast charger 200+ miles away.

Not if you are going 150 miles and returning, much worse if you have any time restraints.

But given your point and defence of Tesla logic re 200 miles, can you explain why Tesla has their 2 main superchargers only 20 miles apart on the main road and have virtually zero superchargers in the top half of our country?

You did post 200 miles, not 20? My Leaf can also do the 20 miles.

[RobDickinson]

I assume because there is demand for it rather than some random out of the way place only 4 people a year would charge.

[DragonflyTrumpeter]

RobDickinson said:

I assume because there is demand for it rather than some random out of the way place only 4 people a year would charge.

Okay, so you only need superchargers every 200 miles. We have 3 out of the 5 in our whole country within 80 miles, covering the 2 main routes, 2 of them 20 miles apart and nothing for half the population and 200 miles one way after that. But it is demand.

I admire you Rob. I may disagree with most things you post but I admire your dedication to your cause.

[ZesPak]

DragonflyTrumpeter said:

The thread is about reasons to buy Tesla, and in general across this board their famed supercharger network is the dog's nuts. I merely pointed out that, specifically, in Scotland Tesla service is utter garbage.

Are you now saying slow, dodgy public charging is the way to go? Defeats the purpose of spending the extra on a Tesla then, it is on a par with my Leaf

that's exactly what I'm saying.
You're right though, the Mrs ZP and I were planning a trip through the north of the UK and we'd have to rely on slow chargers once there. Really odd that the coverage is that bad up there. Still, we can easily get there using SuC and once there we can use the other charges, you know, see how the other side lives :P

[SWoll]

If you've got free charging all over the country why would you need a supercharger network? It's great if available but surely the point is you can charge a Tesla anywhere unlike other cars?

Obviously a lot more to the Tesla experience than just charging, that's the icing on the cake.

Edited by SWoll on Thursday 9th July 22:19

[anonymous-user]

Scotland's superchargers are not too bad considering population density.

For sure, needs a new 12 bay in edinburgh, and a handful in Fort william. 2 in edinburgh is just silly. And always hogged by airport taxis.

[RobDickinson]

strange correlation

[jamoor]

DragonflyTrumpeter said:

jamoor said:

They don’t really put them in cities, they put them on motorways and trunk roads for people doing long distances to charge.

Okay, the nearest one to Aberdeen is 65 miles south. There is a huge chunk of Scotland and a large population north of Dundee on the East and Aviemore on the west and we do have roads going in and out of cities up here as well. They don't put them in cities, you are right. They don't put them anywhere.

ZesPak said:

This is not Tesla specific then as Tesla's can charge on other charges as well?

The thread is about reasons to buy Tesla, and in general across this board their famed supercharger network is the dog's nuts. I merely pointed out that, specifically, in Scotland Tesla service is utter garbage.

Are you now saying slow, dodgy public charging is the way to go? Defeats the purpose of spending the extra on a Tesla then, it is on a par with my Leaf

I assume they put them in the places where people would use them the most then work from there.

[sjg]

littleredrooster said:

sjg said:

If you're willing to go a couple of minutes from the motorway there's non-Ecotricity rapid chargers very close to junctions 18, 20, 23 and 25 of the M1. Polar, Enginie, Geniepoint, Instavolt and others have been pretty good at finding sites just off the motorway to put rapid chargers on. Yes, ideally you don't have to stray from the services but it's better than taking your chances with Ecotricity.

Ecotricity is the only account we had access to. Which is another valid point - which of the 15+ providers do you have to have an account with? Register with all of them, fer goodness sake???

Zap Map lets you filter by those that let you just pay with a credit/debit card. The ones by all of those junctions do that.

It’s often a bit cheaper if you use the provider’s app or card but if you’re averse to that then mostly you can just beep your credit card and go.

[aestetix1]

ZesPak said:

I want to address this again. Is this really a thing in the UK?

No, it hasn't been like that for years. You can get discounts by signing up but if you just arrive at a random charger you can pay with card. Some of them require you to go to their website to pay, like Ecotricity.

[anonymous-user]

aestetix1 said:

No, it hasn't been like that for years. You can get discounts by signing up but if you just arrive at a random charger you can pay with card. Some of them require you to go to their website to pay, like Ecotricity.

Unless 4G mobil signal happens to be a bit patchy, in which case the machine doesn't work at all. One reason why relying on CC in non urban areas is risky.

[ZesPak]

sambucket said:

Unless 4G mobil signal happens to be a bit patchy, in which case the machine doesn't work at all. One reason why relying on CC in non urban areas is risky.

planning our trip in Scotland I read that about one of the chargers, doesn't work all the time because apparently it operates on a SIM card and hasn't always got a signal