Why are used Audi e-tron so cheap?
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James6112 said:
Indeed
Market forces.
Some would choose a new EV for the same price as a not so great used Audi.
That’s why the Audi is cheap.
Well not cheap, priced about right.
It's the same market forces affecting all used EV's, values have collapsed in the last 12 months due to supply and demand. A new MG4 will likely lose £10-12k to depreciation in its first year. A 2 year old eTron, maybe half that?Market forces.
Some would choose a new EV for the same price as a not so great used Audi.
That’s why the Audi is cheap.
Well not cheap, priced about right.
If you enjoy burning money, there's few better ways than buying a new EV at the moment.
Arranguez said:
I’m on the verge of buying a used Q4 40. They look nice and have a decent range. Need to test drive one mind you. I can’t help worrying about having the car for 8 years (maybe 50k miles) and the battery being trashed and its value being zero.
8 year, 100k mile warranty on the battery in the Q4. If you're only planning on covering 6k miles a year and charging mostly at home then you really shouldn't have anything to worry about. Batteries can also have modules repaired/replace so unlikely to be worth nothing even if you do have a problem.Had a drive in one this bank hol. We liked it. I couldn’t get over how quiet it is..
Have quite a few in my budget range but mileage between 15 and 20k. I bought my M3 for more money, longer ago, with 18k on the clock but for some reason I’m dithering over 20k on the Q4. I should just be thinking the same as an ICE, correct?
Was also encouraged by the battery health thread.
Have quite a few in my budget range but mileage between 15 and 20k. I bought my M3 for more money, longer ago, with 18k on the clock but for some reason I’m dithering over 20k on the Q4. I should just be thinking the same as an ICE, correct?
Was also encouraged by the battery health thread.
Had mine 6 months now and absolutely love it.
Costing me pennies to run, its quick enough, has loads of space inside, glides down the road and even handles pretty well too. A few software niggles that have come and gone but the "EV" part has been faultless. Currently getting 180-190 miles to a charge which is fine for me.
As a commuting/daily car it's pretty much perfect. For less than £20k it's a hell of a lot of car.
Audi as a brand on the other hand (Main dealer and Audi UK), are the complete opposite!
Costing me pennies to run, its quick enough, has loads of space inside, glides down the road and even handles pretty well too. A few software niggles that have come and gone but the "EV" part has been faultless. Currently getting 180-190 miles to a charge which is fine for me.
As a commuting/daily car it's pretty much perfect. For less than £20k it's a hell of a lot of car.
Audi as a brand on the other hand (Main dealer and Audi UK), are the complete opposite!
Just bought an approved used June 2019 55 e-tron as thought it represented very good value for money at £22.5k
Moving from a 2.0TSI Kodiaq that was doing loads of nursery runs (45miles a day), so over a couple of years factoring in running costs / depreciation etc the man maths says it should work out cheaper. Trading some inconvenience on the odd long journey for day to day wafting and a fair bit more poke!
Moving from a 2.0TSI Kodiaq that was doing loads of nursery runs (45miles a day), so over a couple of years factoring in running costs / depreciation etc the man maths says it should work out cheaper. Trading some inconvenience on the odd long journey for day to day wafting and a fair bit more poke!
I’ve put a deposit on a Q4 50. 18 months old, Sonos and a few other gadgets and about half the price it was new! I went outside the dealer network which I thought was ok given it is still under warranty (servicing etc checked). The kids quite excited, especially as it has chargers in the back and they get their own air con controls.
Picked it up today near Birmingham and drove it back to Edinburgh. Charged at Tebay … what a revelation that services is. The chargers seemed a bit temperamental as mine stopped randomly.
Nice car. So much to learn about the config though. First time with Car Play. Loved that, now ever so tempted to get that installed in my M3.
Ohme not covering themselves in glory with 3 week install quote; two month reality and double costs with installation extras.
Nice car. So much to learn about the config though. First time with Car Play. Loved that, now ever so tempted to get that installed in my M3.
Ohme not covering themselves in glory with 3 week install quote; two month reality and double costs with installation extras.
Arranguez said:
Picked it up today near Birmingham and drove it back to Edinburgh. Charged at Tebay … what a revelation that services is. The chargers seemed a bit temperamental as mine stopped randomly.
Nice car. So much to learn about the config though. First time with Car Play. Loved that, now ever so tempted to get that installed in my M3.
Ohme not covering themselves in glory with 3 week install quote; two month reality and double costs with installation extras.
Hope you enjoy it! I still absolutely love mine. Nice car. So much to learn about the config though. First time with Car Play. Loved that, now ever so tempted to get that installed in my M3.
Ohme not covering themselves in glory with 3 week install quote; two month reality and double costs with installation extras.
Ohme were a pain in the arse for me, took 3 months to get the charger fitted.
Yeah I'd agree re Ohme, their installers don't seem the most clued up and taking an age. A guy came around for an additional survey and it was just taking the same photos I'd already sent, and muttering about unnecessary (in my opinion) groundworks. Tempted to see if I can get the cash equivalent and just sort myself.
My experience with Ohme at the beginning of this year was the opposite.
Website was quoting one month lead time for installation when I booked, then a few hours later I was contacted by the installer who covers my area (Derby) and they offered me an installation within a few days. I could tell that the company who contacted me were experts and knew what they were talking about, and the installation was very professional.
Maybe it's dependant on which installer Ohme use for your area.
Website was quoting one month lead time for installation when I booked, then a few hours later I was contacted by the installer who covers my area (Derby) and they offered me an installation within a few days. I could tell that the company who contacted me were experts and knew what they were talking about, and the installation was very professional.
Maybe it's dependant on which installer Ohme use for your area.
Ballistic said:
My experience with Ohme at the beginning of this year was the opposite.
Website was quoting one month lead time for installation when I booked, then a few hours later I was contacted by the installer who covers my area (Derby) and they offered me an installation within a few days. I could tell that the company who contacted me were experts and knew what they were talking about, and the installation was very professional.
Maybe it's dependant on which installer Ohme use for your area.
Yes I think it’s the contractor that’s used that depends what sort of service you have. It’s not Ohmes fault in fairness. Still annoying to have to wait 3 months and then they don’t even tidy up when they’re finished Website was quoting one month lead time for installation when I booked, then a few hours later I was contacted by the installer who covers my area (Derby) and they offered me an installation within a few days. I could tell that the company who contacted me were experts and knew what they were talking about, and the installation was very professional.
Maybe it's dependant on which installer Ohme use for your area.
Looking at swapping out to one of these around 2/3 years old to replace my current 1 series but I'm hearing conflicting info from Audi dealers (Cheshire Oaks and Crewe) around how the battery warratny is carried over to new owners. Anyone had a solid answer on this?
Cheshire Oaks seemed adamant the 8 year/100,000 mile warranty was non-transferrable and any (even approved used) cars would have no battery warratny.
Crewe said that's rubbish and the battery warranty is intact regardless of how many owners the vehicle has had.
Cheshire Oaks seemed adamant the 8 year/100,000 mile warranty was non-transferrable and any (even approved used) cars would have no battery warratny.
Crewe said that's rubbish and the battery warranty is intact regardless of how many owners the vehicle has had.
thatnathansmith said:
Looking at swapping out to one of these around 2/3 years old to replace my current 1 series but I'm hearing conflicting info from Audi dealers (Cheshire Oaks and Crewe) around how the battery warratny is carried over to new owners. Anyone had a solid answer on this?
Cheshire Oaks seemed adamant the 8 year/100,000 mile warranty was non-transferrable and any (even approved used) cars would have no battery warratny.
Crewe said that's rubbish and the battery warranty is intact regardless of how many owners the vehicle has had.
Crewe are right. The battery warranty, as with the new car warranty, has nothing to do with the number of owners and is purely time/mileage based.Cheshire Oaks seemed adamant the 8 year/100,000 mile warranty was non-transferrable and any (even approved used) cars would have no battery warratny.
Crewe said that's rubbish and the battery warranty is intact regardless of how many owners the vehicle has had.
And they wonder why it's a struggle to sell them..
SWoll said:
Crewe are right. The battery warranty, as with the new car warranty, has nothing to do with the number of owners and is purely time/mileage based.
And they wonder why it's a struggle to sell them..
I'd assumed that to be the case but the chap at Cheshire Oaks gave it the "dont let anyone tell you otherwise" shtick.And they wonder why it's a struggle to sell them..
The battery warranty being intact along with the current 2 year warranty/service/breakdown cover offer makes it a tempting proposition for a couple of years. I only do round 4k miles a year with my longest round trip being about 100 miles to our Manchester office and back so the range isn't a huge concern which seems to be what's made these tank in price!
SWoll said:
thatnathansmith said:
Looking at swapping out to one of these around 2/3 years old to replace my current 1 series but I'm hearing conflicting info from Audi dealers (Cheshire Oaks and Crewe) around how the battery warratny is carried over to new owners. Anyone had a solid answer on this?
Cheshire Oaks seemed adamant the 8 year/100,000 mile warranty was non-transferrable and any (even approved used) cars would have no battery warratny.
Crewe said that's rubbish and the battery warranty is intact regardless of how many owners the vehicle has had.
Crewe are right. The battery warranty, as with the new car warranty, has nothing to do with the number of owners and is purely time/mileage based.Cheshire Oaks seemed adamant the 8 year/100,000 mile warranty was non-transferrable and any (even approved used) cars would have no battery warratny.
Crewe said that's rubbish and the battery warranty is intact regardless of how many owners the vehicle has had.
And they wonder why it's a struggle to sell them..
So Cheshire Oaks seem to think the battery warranty only lasts as long as the first owner has the car? From my experience with Audi, I wouldn't trust a word they say unless it's in writing from Audi UK.
T_S_M said:
This. The battery warranty lasts 8 years/100k, regardless of how many owners it's had.
So Cheshire Oaks seem to think the battery warranty only lasts as long as the first owner has the car? From my experience with Audi, I wouldn't trust a word they say unless it's in writing from Audi UK.
Yep, the guy I spoke to gave the example of even a 6 month old e-tron on the approved used would only have it's "vehicle" warranty and the batteries would have nothing if an issue was to come up with them.So Cheshire Oaks seem to think the battery warranty only lasts as long as the first owner has the car? From my experience with Audi, I wouldn't trust a word they say unless it's in writing from Audi UK.
thatnathansmith said:
T_S_M said:
This. The battery warranty lasts 8 years/100k, regardless of how many owners it's had.
So Cheshire Oaks seem to think the battery warranty only lasts as long as the first owner has the car? From my experience with Audi, I wouldn't trust a word they say unless it's in writing from Audi UK.
Yep, the guy I spoke to gave the example of even a 6 month old e-tron on the approved used would only have it's "vehicle" warranty and the batteries would have nothing if an issue was to come up with them.So Cheshire Oaks seem to think the battery warranty only lasts as long as the first owner has the car? From my experience with Audi, I wouldn't trust a word they say unless it's in writing from Audi UK.
"The batteries for battery electric vehicles (BEV) and plug in hybrid vehicles (PHEV) are warranted against all defects in materials and workmanship for eight years or up to 100,000 miles, whichever comes first from the date of handover to first customer (or date of first registration, whichever comes sooner)"
https://www.audi.co.uk/dam/nemo/uk/Owners-Area/War...
Maybe the confusion is in the wording "from the date of handover to first customer"?
ETA: Salesman at Cheshire Oaks was talking out of his arse.
Edited by T_S_M on Thursday 6th June 12:21
T_S_M said:
thatnathansmith said:
T_S_M said:
This. The battery warranty lasts 8 years/100k, regardless of how many owners it's had.
So Cheshire Oaks seem to think the battery warranty only lasts as long as the first owner has the car? From my experience with Audi, I wouldn't trust a word they say unless it's in writing from Audi UK.
Yep, the guy I spoke to gave the example of even a 6 month old e-tron on the approved used would only have it's "vehicle" warranty and the batteries would have nothing if an issue was to come up with them.So Cheshire Oaks seem to think the battery warranty only lasts as long as the first owner has the car? From my experience with Audi, I wouldn't trust a word they say unless it's in writing from Audi UK.
"The batteries for battery electric vehicles (BEV) and plug in hybrid vehicles (PHEV) are warranted against all defects in materials and workmanship for eight years or up to 100,000 miles, whichever comes first from the date of handover to first customer (or date of first registration, whichever comes sooner)"
https://www.audi.co.uk/dam/nemo/uk/Owners-Area/War...
Maybe the confusion is in the wording "from the date of handover to first customer"?
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