My Ioniq5 P45 thread - from the start.

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so called said:

Has anyone had an issue home charging.
Mine trips the Earth leakage breaker when I plug in for 7kW or granny charger ???

No problems with the i3 before.

My chargers are 6 years old - no issue

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Mainly in eco / normal with AC off - it’s fked

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So the range disappointment of max 220 in eco / heater off / mixed use is an issue.

I expected 250 per charge about 3.5 miles per kWh but I’m getting under 3

I’ve asked them what to do, they started with running in / driving style / time of the month but I know the dance and this car has an issue.

The saga continues.

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McAndy said:

DSLiverpool said:

So the range disappointment of max 220 in eco / heater off / mixed use is an issue.

I expected 250 per charge about 3.5 miles per kWh but I’m getting under 3

I’ve asked them what to do, they started with running in / driving style / time of the month but I know the dance and this car has an issue.

The saga continues.

I feel it's unusual for Hyundai/Kia to be a way away from their claimed ranges. Are you on any of the EV forums to see if others are suffering similarly? Hope it gets identified/fixed for you soon!

It’s not Hyundai it’s my particular car, we’ve had other Hyundai EVs and they do better than claimed.

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gangzoom said:

DSLiverpool said:

It’s not Hyundai it’s my particular car, we’ve had other Hyundai EVs and they do better than claimed.

Nothing wrong with your call. It appears Hyundai/Kia have no secret sauce to efficiency. Make a light weight, not very powerful or big EV like the Kona and efficiency is great. But make a bigger 'premium' EV with performance to match and its no more (or less) efficient than any EV from other brands with similar performance/size.

3 miles per kWh seems about right for the Ionqi 5 at M way speeds, its likely this will drop to 2.5 miles per kWh as we head into winter.

https://youtu.be/ZgeZikh88Wc

In eco with no heat and no motorway it won’t hit 3km - it’s also way under other owners performances.

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So the range continues to dive, it’s now less than our 38kw ioniq !

The cars in a heated garage and wasn’t cold this morning

So far 4 emails and 2 tweets have been ignored.

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RobDickinson said:

Ouch that doesnt look right, does seem like a faulty pack or bms or something

I’ve been round long enough to realise it’s definitely faulty but they are stting it as obviously it’s a huge job, they have no spares and no experience.

No other owners on the Fb group get as low as I do, even if I hypermile at 30 it won’t get above 3 m per kWh

What grates on me is Hyundai et al are hiding - I’ve said I don’t what it to go in for weeks while they test stuff, get the factory solutions ready then I’ll come in.

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so called said:

I wonder if it's running 4 wheel drive all of the time?
I understand that when your in ECO etc., it runs rear wheel only and so should give similar mileage performance to my Ultimate rear drive version.

Not according to the dash display it’s not - I can see power distribution. Good shout though.

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Kimbie said:

Is the range on the dash the same as in the Bluelink app? As I know the app has its own issues.

Yep - I’m pretty analytical I’ve gone through all the none fked options to deduce it’s fked sadly.

The silence deafening.

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SWoll said:

75mph average I believe.

2100KG, big wheels and tyres, relatively poor overall drag. Can't say I'm particularly surprised in those conditions, you can't cheat physics.

Unfortunately no option for smaller wheels even on the lighter, RWD, 73kW car in Premium spec so always going to be a challenge.

So every other Project 45 getting 4+ mpkwh has had wheels swapped / car lightened ? No - it’s faulty. Of course it’s not as economical as the smaller car but it’s miles less than any other P45 - leading me to deduce it’s faulty.

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SWoll said:

I was commenting on the posted YT video, not your car.

Apologies - I’m in pissed off mode

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JD said:

Have you had a check for a stuck calliper?

I had one on a previous car and shocking MPG was a sign of it, It was easy to diagnose for me as one of the wheels got obviously warm to the touch.

Wheels are cool, I’ve gone through 15 years of PH answers lol. It might be a bad motor but on the few times I’ve tried sport mode it’s been pretty nippy.

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dmsims said:

Have you ascertained the amount of charge you can put into the battery?

That shouldn’t affect the miles per kWh even if not fully charging.

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RobDickinson said:

Let it cool.

Go for a drive, use regen, dont use the brakes 10min should do.

Check the brake temps when you stop, could be that

I’ll do that tomorrow, the dealer wants to swap cars for a week to see if they can better 2.6 m-kWh like they can’t prove that in a half hour!

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so called said:

Someone pointed out that the AC is on by default.
My drive to Wales last week averaging 4.6 miles / kWh was with AC but with the temp set at the outside ambient.
Also max regen.

DSL, what have you got your temperature set at?

Off - deliberately always off, temp display blank. Natural air vent comes through.

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Silverage said:

A bit of sunshine appeared this afternoon, so I did my school run with cabin heating and AC both off. The climate control was set to 22° but I don’t think it does much with both turned off.

It was 16° outside and the car was doing 4 miles per kwh with ease. When I got back from the return trip, the little report card that pops up when you turn off reckoned that I had managed 4.5.

Anyway, yours must be knackered to be getting less than 3. Will your dealer agree to go out on a side-by-side run with their demo so they can be compared in the same conditions?

They have offered to keep it for a week to see what they can get - I’m not in the mood to do that just now. I’ll get a few hundred more miles on it first.

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Silverage said:

DSLiverpool said:

They have offered to keep it for a week to see what they can get - I’m not in the mood to do that just now. I’ll get a few hundred more miles on it first.

I just thought if they ran your car alongside their demo over the same route in the same conditions that would instantly prove that there is something seriously wrong with your car when it comes back doing 33% fewer miles per kwh than theirs. I know their demo will almost certainly be a RWD Premium on 19s, but it shouldn’t make that much difference.

No AWD demos right now

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Silverage said:

I assume this whole carry on has just made you 100% certain of swapping the Ioniq 5 for the Toureg when it finally becomes available? I know it would take much less than this to put me off a car.

No question - Touregs still on order

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so called said:

Hi DSL, don't know if you spotten this offer from dapprman ?
No idea what at KONNWEI '#=#'###'='='=####???? Don't know what it does but it sounds impressive.

dapprman said:

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@DSLiverpool - hope you do get your car sorted soon - if you you end up needing to connect your car to a reader I have a spare KONNWEI KW902 Mini Bluetooth Wireless OBD-II OBD2 I can lend/drop in the post.

Didn’t see that, might be an option

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I think I’ve Sussed the st range issue, regardless of driving mode the front wheels are always driven except on coasting.

As far as I can tell they shouldn’t do this except on start off or slippy roads or in sport mode.

The dealer said the car display isn’t accurate but others don’t have the display showing drive to the front wheels when doing 30 in eco.

Hyundai are a really st company in the U.K.