Who's ordered a KIA EV6 GT?
Discussion
RossP said:
stabilio said:
Carwow did a video this week saying a real world 200 mile range maybe best you can get (and lower if you use the power) so I’m starting to get cold feet now ??
That's all I get from my M3P at the moment so I'm not too bothered.Interestingly it's not 'how you drive it' so much as what speed you travel at. I find I can wring it's neck down b-roads and it really doesn't make much difference to range. But sustained driving above around 55mph really does, because it's constantly battling high levels of wind resistance.
But all that really matter is: How often do you actually exceed 200 miles in a single day?.. and however often that might be, is it really going to be an issue to stop at a fast charger for 30-60mins to get such trips done? Especially given that a 300-400 mile long journey would typically feature a rest/food break regardless of the need to charge. I use public chargers 2-3 times a year as I live in a tiny country called England and 200 miles is normally more than sufficient.
TheDeuce said:
But all that really matter is: How often do you actually exceed 200 miles in a single day?.. and however often that might be, is it really going to be an issue to stop at a fast charger for 30-60mins to get such trips done? Especially given that a 300-400 mile long journey would typically feature a rest/food break regardless of the need to charge. I use public chargers 2-3 times a year as I live in a tiny country called England and 200 miles is normally more than sufficient.
And (with the right charger), that would be a fair bit quicker in the EV6 with its 800V systems.It’s not the lack of range with the car that’s problem as such but the public charging network that gives me doubts.
We often go to the Peak District and can just about make the return journey with a couple of shorts trips once there by just charging from home with our tesla - and there’s also a bank of tesla superchargers en route if we need them and know pretty much they’ll all be working and some will be free.
That’s my concern at the moment.
We often go to the Peak District and can just about make the return journey with a couple of shorts trips once there by just charging from home with our tesla - and there’s also a bank of tesla superchargers en route if we need them and know pretty much they’ll all be working and some will be free.
That’s my concern at the moment.
stabilio said:
It’s not the lack of range with the car that’s problem as such but the public charging network that gives me doubts.
We often go to the Peak District and can just about make the return journey with a couple of shorts trips once there by just charging from home with our tesla - and there’s also a bank of tesla superchargers en route if we need them and know pretty much they’ll all be working and some will be free.
That’s my concern at the moment.
Whichever way you enter/exit the peak district, you have a choice of probably hundreds along your route between there and home, even if some are in use or out of order:We often go to the Peak District and can just about make the return journey with a couple of shorts trips once there by just charging from home with our tesla - and there’s also a bank of tesla superchargers en route if we need them and know pretty much they’ll all be working and some will be free.
That’s my concern at the moment.
I also suspect at some point in the not too distant future many more Tesla stations will be updated to serve non-Tesla drivers. There's no word yet on exactly how quickly the current pilot scheme (15 stations) will be expanded on, but I would guess we'll see significant expansion within the time you own the car.
TheDeuce said:
Whichever way you enter/exit the peak district, you have a choice of probably hundreds along your route between there and home, even if some are in use or out of order:
I also suspect at some point in the not too distant future many more Tesla stations will be updated to serve non-Tesla drivers. There's no word yet on exactly how quickly the current pilot scheme (15 stations) will be expanded on, but I would guess we'll see significant expansion within the time you own the car.
I just moved closer to the Peak District I also suspect at some point in the not too distant future many more Tesla stations will be updated to serve non-Tesla drivers. There's no word yet on exactly how quickly the current pilot scheme (15 stations) will be expanded on, but I would guess we'll see significant expansion within the time you own the car.
TheDeuce said:
stabilio said:
It’s not the lack of range with the car that’s problem as such but the public charging network that gives me doubts.
We often go to the Peak District and can just about make the return journey with a couple of shorts trips once there by just charging from home with our tesla - and there’s also a bank of tesla superchargers en route if we need them and know pretty much they’ll all be working and some will be free.
That’s my concern at the moment.
Whichever way you enter/exit the peak district, you have a choice of probably hundreds along your route between there and home, even if some are in use or out of order:We often go to the Peak District and can just about make the return journey with a couple of shorts trips once there by just charging from home with our tesla - and there’s also a bank of tesla superchargers en route if we need them and know pretty much they’ll all be working and some will be free.
That’s my concern at the moment.
I also suspect at some point in the not too distant future many more Tesla stations will be updated to serve non-Tesla drivers. There's no word yet on exactly how quickly the current pilot scheme (15 stations) will be expanded on, but I would guess we'll see significant expansion within the time you own the car.
3 years in and she still doesn’t have zap map or any other charger apps.
The other thing is that Kia finance isn’t that competitive and I can pcp a model Y performance with optional extra interior/ exterior colours for around £30 per month more on the same terms and the Y lists almost £10k higher.
TheDeuce said:
My iPace has a supposed range of 292 miles. In reality, driven on mixed roads with some 80mph (In Europe, obviously, officer..) I typically get 230-240 miles. In the winter it could get as low as 200 with mixed driving, and even in milder weather if it was nearly all motorway speeds it would probably still only get around 200 miles.
Interestingly it's not 'how you drive it' so much as what speed you travel at. I find I can wring it's neck down b-roads and it really doesn't make much difference to range. But sustained driving above around 55mph really does, because it's constantly battling high levels of wind resistance.
But all that really matter is: How often do you actually exceed 200 miles in a single day?.. and however often that might be, is it really going to be an issue to stop at a fast charger for 30-60mins to get such trips done? Especially given that a 300-400 mile long journey would typically feature a rest/food break regardless of the need to charge. I use public chargers 2-3 times a year as I live in a tiny country called England and 200 miles is normally more than sufficient.
The issue here is that if the carwow figures are accurate, and in mixed driving and decent conditions (14 degrees, dry) it averages 2.6 miles/kWh, then that's likely to drop significantly once weather conditions worsen?Interestingly it's not 'how you drive it' so much as what speed you travel at. I find I can wring it's neck down b-roads and it really doesn't make much difference to range. But sustained driving above around 55mph really does, because it's constantly battling high levels of wind resistance.
But all that really matter is: How often do you actually exceed 200 miles in a single day?.. and however often that might be, is it really going to be an issue to stop at a fast charger for 30-60mins to get such trips done? Especially given that a 300-400 mile long journey would typically feature a rest/food break regardless of the need to charge. I use public chargers 2-3 times a year as I live in a tiny country called England and 200 miles is normally more than sufficient.
100% will matter more to some drivers than others, but worth pointing out for anyone considering one for a regular motorway commute or could find themselves rather disappointed?
Those figures ((2.6 miles/kWh) are identical to what we see in our etron 55 in mixed use and the same conditions, a vehicle lambasted for it's efficiency. It does however have a 10% bigger battery than the Kia so rarely falls below 200 miles of range available.
SWoll said:
The issue here is that if the carwow figures are accurate, and in mixed driving and decent conditions (14 degrees, dry) it averages 2.6 miles/kWh, then that's likely to drop significantly once weather conditions worsen?
100% will matter more to some drivers than others, but worth pointing out for anyone considering one for a regular motorway commute or could find themselves rather disappointed?
Those figures ((2.6 miles/kWh) are identical to what we see in our etron 55 in mixed use and the same conditions, a vehicle lambasted for it's efficiency. It does however have a 10% bigger battery than the Kia so rarely falls below 200 miles of range available.
I've been watching a few of the Korean and Japanese YT vids about the GT. Don't have a clue what they're saying (and subtitles didn't work) but I've been trying to work out the real world range when they show the dash with mileage left and battery percentage then trying to work things out.100% will matter more to some drivers than others, but worth pointing out for anyone considering one for a regular motorway commute or could find themselves rather disappointed?
Those figures ((2.6 miles/kWh) are identical to what we see in our etron 55 in mixed use and the same conditions, a vehicle lambasted for it's efficiency. It does however have a 10% bigger battery than the Kia so rarely falls below 200 miles of range available.
I'd like to see more UK reviews but there only seems to be the one prototype car over here and by the time the actual cars get here, mine will be in that btch too and i'll need to make a decision on whether to keep it or cancel the order... or sell it on
stabilio said:
Carwow did a video this week saying a real world 200 mile range maybe best you can get (and lower if you use the power) so I’m starting to get cold feet now ??
We've done 6,300 miles in our Ev6 since February, I've driven 240 miles at motorway speeds a couple of times including last week. If really pushed, the car will do 270 miles if you are willing to take it close to zero. I would struggle to use up a full battery in 200 miles unless I was doing a consistent 85+ mph. 200 might is safe as in you'll get that in all conditions and speeds but feels quite conservative.stephenjk said:
stabilio said:
Carwow did a video this week saying a real world 200 mile range maybe best you can get (and lower if you use the power) so I’m starting to get cold feet now ??
We've done 6,300 miles in our Ev6 since February, I've driven 240 miles at motorway speeds a couple of times including last week. If really pushed, the car will do 270 miles if you are willing to take it close to zero. I would struggle to use up a full battery in 200 miles unless I was doing a consistent 85+ mph. 200 might is safe as in you'll get that in all conditions and speeds but feels quite conservative.The extra power, weight and aero changes (more cooling, larger and more open wheels, stickier tyres) for the GT will make a considerable dfference.
SWoll said:
stephenjk said:
stabilio said:
Carwow did a video this week saying a real world 200 mile range maybe best you can get (and lower if you use the power) so I’m starting to get cold feet now ??
We've done 6,300 miles in our Ev6 since February, I've driven 240 miles at motorway speeds a couple of times including last week. If really pushed, the car will do 270 miles if you are willing to take it close to zero. I would struggle to use up a full battery in 200 miles unless I was doing a consistent 85+ mph. 200 might is safe as in you'll get that in all conditions and speeds but feels quite conservative.The extra power, weight and aero changes (more cooling, larger and more open wheels, stickier tyres) for the GT will make a considerable dfference.
Tobermory said:
stephenjk said:
I see mine is gt line.
how many miles per kWh do you see on average in your GT line S do you mind me asking? 
Watching another new video from overseas today (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLaaH438uKA) on a POV drive and If i'm seeing things correcty, as much as I want this car, the range I was worried about doesnt look great.
Looking on the dash again, I see the battery at 97% and shows just 275km of range (170 miles) and if charging to 80% is still recommended on the Kia's, that under 150 miles.
I can't see what driving mode its in but much of the drive is in traffic so hes not exactly giving it full power on a back road but also not in slow moving town traffic either.
If what I'm seeing is correct, my orders probably going to be cancelled
Looking on the dash again, I see the battery at 97% and shows just 275km of range (170 miles) and if charging to 80% is still recommended on the Kia's, that under 150 miles.
I can't see what driving mode its in but much of the drive is in traffic so hes not exactly giving it full power on a back road but also not in slow moving town traffic either.
If what I'm seeing is correct, my orders probably going to be cancelled
stabilio said:
Watching another new video from overseas today (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLaaH438uKA) on a POV drive and If i'm seeing things correcty, as much as I want this car, the range I was worried about doesnt look great.
Looking on the dash again, I see the battery at 97% and shows just 275km of range (170 miles) and if charging to 80% is still recommended on the Kia's, that under 150 miles.
I can't see what driving mode its in but much of the drive is in traffic so hes not exactly giving it full power on a back road but also not in slow moving town traffic either.
If what I'm seeing is correct, my orders probably going to be cancelled
That will be a press car demonstrator that has had god knows how many press / YT drivers caning the crap out the full 576hp for clickbait titles. The GOM adjusts itself to driving style (and temperature). So it's simply basing the range on how its been treated.Looking on the dash again, I see the battery at 97% and shows just 275km of range (170 miles) and if charging to 80% is still recommended on the Kia's, that under 150 miles.
I can't see what driving mode its in but much of the drive is in traffic so hes not exactly giving it full power on a back road but also not in slow moving town traffic either.
If what I'm seeing is correct, my orders probably going to be cancelled
Seeing as this guy does exactly that at one point getting to 180km/h, no wonder the estimated range takes a hit.
Agreed, I don't think you can base the range on the experience of the press cars. We will know soon enough as UK customers cars will be here soon. As I'm going to be charging mine from solar panels I'm not that bothered. It seems the bucket seats are super comfy and may be better than the regular ones that have a strange shaped headrest, that is a relief.
Can anyone who has one provide some real world info on the m/kWh for an AWD (non GT obviously) UK EV6 please?
Can anyone who has one provide some real world info on the m/kWh for an AWD (non GT obviously) UK EV6 please?
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 29th October 20:04
stabilio said:
Watching another new video from overseas today (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLaaH438uKA) on a POV drive and If i'm seeing things correcty, as much as I want this car, the range I was worried about doesnt look great.
Looking on the dash again, I see the battery at 97% and shows just 275km of range (170 miles) and if charging to 80% is still recommended on the Kia's, that under 150 miles.
I can't see what driving mode its in but much of the drive is in traffic so hes not exactly giving it full power on a back road but also not in slow moving town traffic either.
If what I'm seeing is correct, my orders probably going to be cancelled
What milage do you require? I guessing the milage will be better but not hugely in winter and there is nothing stopping charging to 100% when required. Looking on the dash again, I see the battery at 97% and shows just 275km of range (170 miles) and if charging to 80% is still recommended on the Kia's, that under 150 miles.
I can't see what driving mode its in but much of the drive is in traffic so hes not exactly giving it full power on a back road but also not in slow moving town traffic either.
If what I'm seeing is correct, my orders probably going to be cancelled
JonChalk said:
That will be a press car demonstrator that has had god knows how many press / YT drivers caning the crap out the full 576hp for clickbait titles. The GOM adjusts itself to driving style (and temperature). So it's simply basing the range on how its been treated.
Seeing as this guy does exactly that at one point getting to 180km/h, no wonder the estimated range takes a hit.
Yeah thats a good point and really hope thats the case as the more I watch from other countries, it seems 170 miles is the range.Seeing as this guy does exactly that at one point getting to 180km/h, no wonder the estimated range takes a hit.
And btw, If anyones interested in a drag race with a Model 3, heres the first I've found: https://youtu.be/Yg8XG1HJuLE?t=338
Almost nothing in it though.
EDIT: just noticed this as was skipping through the vid which is the first I've seen on energy use: https://youtu.be/Yg8XG1HJuLE?t=1111
EV6 22.5 kwh
Tesla 17.2 kwh
Edited by stabilio on Monday 31st October 16:38
stabilio said:
Yeah thats a good point and really hope thats the case as the more I watch from other countries, it seems 170 miles is the range.
And btw, If anyones interested in a drag race with a Model 3, heres the first I've found: https://youtu.be/Yg8XG1HJuLE?t=338
Almost nothing in it though.
That's not a model 3 performance though - it's a long range. So a performance could be faster than the GT.And btw, If anyones interested in a drag race with a Model 3, heres the first I've found: https://youtu.be/Yg8XG1HJuLE?t=338
Almost nothing in it though.
Looks like I will have an overlap between my GT arriving and my M3P departing.... Anyone got an airstrip?
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