Hybrid cars using charging points?

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paradigital said:

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It will almost certainly cost you more than just driving home on the petrol in your tank. From reviews I've seen < 2 miles per kWh is likely so that's 30p per mile. You'd need to be doing < 22mpg at current prices on petrol alone for it to be worthwhile as the poster above mentions for his Cayenne.

I’ve averaged 3.4mi/kwh with the X1 on battery alone.

The answer will vary based on which PHEV and it's efficiency. For yours, after charging losses it would be costing around 16p per mile in electricity so anything under 40MPG on petrol at current fuel prices would make charging cost effective @ 50p kWh.

[donkmeister]

OP, I wouldn't worry about it - chargers are first come, first served and people buy EVs knowing that sometimes they will have to queue for a charger. It's a trade-off that they bought in to: cheaper fuel, tax benefits, more convenient refuelling if and when they can park at home but less convenient refuelling when out and about. No-one forced anyone to have an EV.

I remember when the modern generation of EVs started to become established, there was an app that EV owners used to allow them to communicate with one another to ensure everyone got their turn. There was etiquette about moving cars around. A bit of a hippy community spirit type thing.

Now EVs are mainstream, unfortunately there's as much chance of an EV driver being a selfish dick as anyone else.

[ashenfie]

The hole sale price of electric peaked at 28p in January before all this kicked off. It seams this in combination with hiking of Standing charges for electric could de-rail any cost savings. I think that prices could easily be 50p per kw in October for home charger and maybe £1 a kw at a fast charger. I see little reason for petrol prices to follow as we can get petrol from many other places, diesel is more of an issue thu.

We have not really seen the full impact yet

[lornemalvo]

There are clearly two schools of thought on PHEVs using charging points. I can see quite a bit of bad feeling and conflict on the horizon.

[lornemalvo]

There are clearly two schools of thought on PHEVs using charging points. I can see quite a bit of bad feeling and conflict on the horizon.

[critical mass]

My PHEV can use a DC charger and will charge from 0 to 90% in about 15 minutes. So about time to grab a coffee and have a pee.

I normally take the opportunity at motorway services if I’m stopping anyway.

Last time I did that I paid £2.75 which will give me about 30 miles. I’d need the best part of a gallon to do the same miles so a useful saving

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ashenfie said:

The hole sale price of electric peaked at 28p in January before all this kicked off. It seams this in combination with hiking of Standing charges for electric could de-rail any cost savings. I think that prices could easily be 50p per kw in October for home charger and maybe £1 a kw at a fast charger. I see little reason for petrol prices to follow as we can get petrol from many other places, diesel is more of an issue thu.

We have not really seen the full impact yet

At 50p kWh a reasonably efficient EV would still be costing the same per mile as a petrol car doing 60MPG. Our off peak per kWh cost from April 1st is 18p on a standard tariff, so I think 50p is highly unlikely for some time yet? Still plenty locked into 7.5p kWh or less overnight EV tariff also.