Shockingly bad NCAP score for the Zoe

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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/renaul...

Such a dangerous car - surely this model needs to be pulled from sale and EV buyers should look elsewhere rather than buying this death trap.

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That YouTube really shows how poor it is.

I stand by my opening post it is dangerous - you are actually buying a Zoe now that is more dangerous than it was previously due to cost cutting(?)

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kambites said:

Welshbeef said:

I stand by my opening post it is dangerous - you are actually buying a Zoe now that is more dangerous than it was previously due to cost cutting(?)

Everyone has their priorities but I'm quite happy with our current cars which will be far less safe than the Zoe (my daily driver has no air-bags at all) so the safety (or lack thereof) of the Zoe wouldn't put me off one. It is a bit rubbish that they actually made it worse, though.

People will look at the safest cars on sale today as "dangerous" in ten years' time. Everything is relative.

I think a point is if you had an older Zoe and we’re upgrading to a new Zoe you’d be expecting safety to be the same or improved - actually given launch in 2013 and now 2021 you’d expect it to be safer.

The fact it has deteriorated through OEM choices is shocking. Actually is there any other vehicle that can be named where the old version of the car is factually safer than its newer version?

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The Rotrex Kid said:

Welshbeef said:

I think a point is if you had an older Zoe and we’re upgrading to a new Zoe you’d be expecting safety to be the same or improved - actually given launch in 2013 and now 2021 you’d expect it to be safer.

The fact it has deteriorated through OEM choices is shocking. Actually is there any other vehicle that can be named where the old version of the car is factually safer than its newer version?

The test is completely different in 2021 to the 2013 test

Your misunderstanding of that basic premise is leading to your hyperbolic 'won't people think of the children' response.

Have you not seen the you tube vids of it ?

Head airbags been removed in the new one.

Old car side impact driver and passenger do not smash head into door frame rather into the curtain airbag. New car head smashes into the body and likewise rear passengers.

ROFLOL your kidder you. This has been discussed over all these pages did you jump to end of thread ignoring all the posters who had identified this material failure / new car is factually less safe than old model?

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Fast Bug said:

I take my kids out in my 996, does that make me a bad parent? The car obviously needs to be scrapped as it must be a death trap

I don’t follow.

Did you buy a Zoe and then the new one which has had safety equipment removed and then Sunday drive in a 996 Porsche?


If your comparing the safety of the 996 to the 992 every safety aspect has improved - as you’d expect and materially. However the point of this thread is and can be changed to suit 911’s which safety equipment has been removed from the 992 making that element less safe than a 996? I’d wager none hence my post on this page can anyone name a car that has been made less safe ie removal of certain airbags?

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kambites said:

Welshbeef said:

I think a point is if you had an older Zoe and we’re upgrading to a new Zoe you’d be expecting safety to be the same or improved - actually given launch in 2013 and now 2021 you’d expect it to be safer.

Would you? I certainly wouldn't make any such assumption if it was me! I do think it's a big rubbish they've made it worse, but it wouldn't put me off buying one if I was in that market.

What bit of the NCAP video didn’t you see with head smashing against the body of the car vs the airbag?

I know any sane person would rather have head into an airbag vs body of a car in an accident.

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jason61c said:

Evanivitch said:

People with something to lose.

you just don't get it then do you.

take a 3 year old car, with a '5 star' test result. test it today, maybe 1 or 2 star? or zero.

Don't kid yourself.

We do you don’t.



I’d also be interested to see if the insurance companies now rate the less safe Zoe in a higher insurance group than the older safer Zoe.

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wyson said:

From previous posts (assuming everything I do stems from some sort of stupidity) and this one, I’m pretty sure you are my manager. Semi gaslighting what I say in a jokey way, exactly his behaviour as well.

What is a donkeyapple anyway?

Edited by wyson on Sunday 12th December 17:45

I just googled it… OMG it’s a pretty vile, check it on urban dictionary (it is about an activity that happens in the toilets at a gas station)